I will buy a 2014/2015 season ticket at Sixfields.... (4 Viewers)

Old Cheyles

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Have only posted on here once but read posts on a daily basis. My personal view is I think we need to move forward and not dwell over what’s been going on for the past few years.

Here are my thoughts….. should CCFC not agree a deal to move back to the Ricoh within the next couple of months then Tim et al need to present firm plans on the new stadium well in advance of the 2014/2015 season. Should these firm plans demonstrate the precise location of the stadium, capacity, transport links etc. then I would certainly consider buying a few 2014/2015 season tickets to watch the team at Sixfields.

My biggest concern at present is the lost generation of support base. My son is 9 and nephew is 12 and both of them have been season ticket holders for the past few years. My nephew now supports Spurs (ironic I know) but fortunately my son feels some strange sort of allegiance to CCFC. If things continue the way they are then there will shortly be even less Cov kids wearing Cov tops over at the Memorial Park, Allesley Park, Caludon Park etc.

So in summary….. should the Ricoh return not happen, then CCFC need to come up with a definitive stadium plan to control the risk of losing a generation of supporters. Admittedly this will not fully address the risk, due to Sixfield’s limited stadium capacity and fan’s personal views about playing in Northampton, but at least we may have a few more youngsters actively supporting Cov should parents etc. hold similar views to mine. But if we keep going round in circles, constantly bombarded with politics and suffering from a deeply divided fanbase, then the average age of the supporter will be about 45-50 by the time we return to Cov (or somewhere nearby).

The club needs to take action, and if they do and the stadium plans are reasonable from a fan’s point of view, then I’ll be at Sixfields for a few seasons.

Please note: I am not saying my view is the correct view, I’m merely hoping parents etc. who have taken kids to the Ricoh over the past couple of years and are currently not taking them to “home” games (yes, I fall into this category) may consider taking younger supporters to Sixfields once matters start to move in the right direction. In addition, a few us all could also reduce the amount of time currently spent watching Jeff Stelling, Tommo etc. on Saturday afternoons (or being dragged to the shops) and actually cheer the boys on and have a drink before, during and after the game then fall asleep watching X-Factor.
 

RoboCCFC90

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I do understand the OP I think you have to take into account the perception of this whole situation when looking at our attendances, if for instance we had just knocked Highfield Road down to build The Ricoh and were temporarily playing at Sixfields like any other normal groundshare agreement then more people would probably buy Season Tickets and support the Club. However nothing is normal when you consider how we came to be at Northampton with a perfectly good stadium in Coventry.

The issue is there are to many ego's and not enough common sense to see that we should be at the Ricoh and for the greater good a deal needs to be struck for us to return.
 

Kingokings204

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I think this is a fair post but for me its not so much NOMP for me its more principal and pride. I have thought on the odd occasion when ive been caught up in the good run we had to go sixfields but in truth never been close. NOMP is fine I guess but I would give my money to Otium if we moved back to the ricoh to watch them. I think some fans get lost in the NOMP when its not about the money for me or probably most others. I have the money to spend on petrol and tickets etc to Northampton but morally or my principals get in the way and I believe is right.
 

Hobo

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I won't go to Sixfields. But you have obviously given it thought and justified it to yourself and your family.

I don't have a problem with that, I hope you all enjoy it and I hope your children get the Sky Blue bug.

I also hope in future they see their team at home in Coventry.

Wishing you and your family a happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year!
 

magic82ball

New Member
I agree with the post to an extent but it really is a catch 22.

Problem 1: Don't go and a generation of supporters will have been lost to other teams - this is not good for CCFC in the long term

Problem 2: Do go and the NOPM campaign fails. SISU will be at the club longer and this may mean playing outside of Coventry longer - this is not good as we revert to problem 1 - A lost generation.

My head hurts...
 

Specs WT-R75

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I agree with the post to an extent but it really is a catch 22.

Problem 1: Don't go and a generation of supporters will have been lost to other teams - this is not good for CCFC in the long term

Problem 2: Do go and the NOPM campaign fails. SISU will be at the club longer and this may mean playing outside of Coventry longer - this is not good as we revert to problem 1 - A lost generation.

My head hurts...

This is the real conundrum. Lets fast forward to the end of the season. Lets assume attendances continue to drop or remain at this level. Lets assume that Fishface comes out and says we are still not coming back to Ricoh, and once again the losses are underwritten... then what. At that point it will be clear that NOPM is not going to work...
 

sky blue john

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Personally i wouldn't take any kids to sixfields especially if you want them to get the sky blue bug !!!
From what i hear on the radio and tv the atmosphere is zero !!!!
And a zero atmosphere is hardly likely to encourage young supporters !!!
Take them to away games it will at least give them a chance of enjoyment !!!
I can think of nothing worse than being stuck in a dead shit hole with the likes of RFC, Torch & co.
 

hill83

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Personally i wouldn't take any kids to sixfields especially if you want them to get the sky blue bug !!!
From what i hear on the radio and tv the atmosphere is zero !!!!
And a zero atmosphere is hardly likely to encourage young supporters !!!
Take them to away games it will at least give them a chance of enjoyment !!!
I can think of nothing worse than being stuck in a dead shit hole with the likes of RFC, Torch & co.

The only thing I can think of that would be worse is being anywhere with you shouting statements all the time.
 

SIR ERNIE

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Stay strong and stay away from sixfields.

It's the only way fans can improve the chances of ever seeing cov playing in cov again.
 

torchomatic

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A fair response apart from your use of the word "justified".

I won't go to Sixfields. But you have obviously given it thought and justified it to yourself and your family.

I don't have a problem with that, I hope you all enjoy it and I hope your children get the Sky Blue bug.

I also hope in future they see their team at home in Coventry.

Wishing you and your family a happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year!
 

Harry Krishner

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Hello Old Cheyles.

I'm always a little suspicious of new posters that appear on here touting a pro-new stadium line, as I have never actually met such a person in real life (one maybe).

Anyway, I'll suspend my disbelief temporarily.

There is absolutely no need whatsoever for another footie stadium in the Cov area when we already have one that was purpose built for CCFC, and that is now apparently available at a very reasonable rent with a ready audience of 15,000+ with money that would be up there like a shot if the owners were to announce tonight that they were wrong all along and will be back there for Boxing Day. I personally reckon they could expect >20,000 if they kept Sixfield prices given current form.

This makes good business sense, yet the owners fail to do the obvious and are persisting with pressure via the courts etc. apparently aimed at forcing the sale of the "Ricoh" while suppressing the opinions of supporters in the process. To pretend that this course of action is somehow normal is extremely twisted.

I too have four kids, who despite all this consider Cov to be their club: I would dearly love to be taking them up there, and have come close to cracking, but I won't, so I share your apparent concern for the future of the club.

As for the owners, I'm sure they don't give a flying fuck. I'm actually surprised they even bother sending TF to fans' forums, so great is the flying fuck they don't give. It looks like they are in so far, they don't really know how to get out. Meanwhile the losses mount and the bullshit continues. TF merely plays monkey to JS's organ grinder, and is forced to go through the motions of being an accessible club owner. I've met the type on many occasions: hubristic and self-focused, and I'm concerned about what they will do if they don't get the stadium. Egotistical fucks like that tend to hang on until they get what they want, so it's vital to resist them.

I'm 99% sure that new stadium talk is blag: where will they get the money considering previous and current losses? Stadium for 12,000? Not exactly going to make anybody rich, is it?

So it's vital that supporters stick together and be ready with some sort of a plan to salvage the club when this whole sorry business is over- which it will be one day.

My hope is that non-account filing SISU/OTIUM will collapse under the weight of compounded debt, or their backers pull the plug (for example). But where will that leave us?
 

SIR ERNIE

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Hello Old Cheyles.

I'm always a little suspicious of new posters that appear on here touting a pro-new stadium line, as I have never actually met such a person in real life (one maybe).

Anyway, I'll suspend my disbelief temporarily.

There is absolutely no need whatsoever for another footie stadium in the Cov area when we already have one that was purpose built for CCFC, and that is now apparently available at a very reasonable rent with a ready audience of 15,000+ with money that would be up there like a shot if the owners were to announce tonight that they were wrong all along and will be back there for Boxing Day. I personally reckon they could expect >20,000 if they kept Sixfield prices given current form.

This makes good business sense, yet the owners fail to do the obvious and are persisting with pressure via the courts etc. apparently aimed at forcing the sale of the "Ricoh" while suppressing the opinions of supporters in the process. To pretend that this course of action is somehow normal is extremely twisted.

I too have four kids, who despite all this consider Cov to be their club: I would dearly love to be taking them up there, and have come close to cracking, but I won't, so I share your apparent concern for the future of the club.

As for the owners, I'm sure they don't give a flying fuck. I'm actually surprised they even bother sending TF to fans' forums, so great is the flying fuck they don't give. It looks like they are in so far, they don't really know how to get out. Meanwhile the losses mount and the bullshit continues. TF merely plays monkey to JS's organ grinder, and is forced to go through the motions of being an accessible club owner. I've met the type on many occasions: hubristic and self-focused, and I'm concerned about what they will do if they don't get the stadium. Egotistical fucks like that tend to hang on until they get what they want, so it's vital to resist them.

I'm 99% sure that new stadium talk is blag: where will they get the money considering previous and current losses? Stadium for 12,000? Not exactly going to make anybody rich, is it?

So it's vital that supporters stick together and be ready with some sort of a plan to salvage the club when this whole sorry business is over- which it will be one day.

My hope is that non-account filing SISU/OTIUM will collapse under the weight of compounded debt, or their backers pull the plug (for example). But where will that leave us?


Top post Harry. Spot on in every respect.
 

Old Cheyles

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Hey Harry - definitely a new poster and appreciate all responses so far. I agree SISU/OTIUM have been blagging about the stadium for a while but at what point will they just shrug their shoulders and say goodbye to the Ricoh option. My strong preference is a return to the Ricoh and for all parties to bury the hatchet and get on with things..... but at moment I have no confidence this will come any point soon. We just need to see a plan of action and once we have that we can all make an informed decision on what we do with our Saturday afternoons. As an aside I've already been to a few away games and had a great time but not a brilliant environment for young kids.
 

blueflint

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can't ever see a return to cov under SISU i really think that we will not have a football team in 18 months time.i truly hope i'm wrong
 

GaryPendrysEyes

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Do the right thing, and don't go to Sixfields, go to away games.
If Sisu choose to keep us at Sixfields for years, they are doing it for their benefit not 'the club'.
They could return to the Ricoh and negotiate, infact that would absolutely make something happen.
 

torchomatic

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Do what you want OP. Don't let fools on here tell you what is right or wrong or moral. We live in a democracy, I believe.

Do the right thing, and don't go to Sixfields, go to away games.
If Sisu choose to keep us at Sixfields for years, they are doing it for their benefit not 'the club'.
They could return to the Ricoh and negotiate, infact that would absolutely make something happen.
 

Del Boy 82

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Hi old Cheyles, I read the topics on here everyday but don't tend to post. I am also trying to keep my 8 year old son interested in ccfc. I grew up watching a top flight team that had a fan base, an was able to attract a reasonal level of support after good sides it produced in the 70's 80's an 90's. But now.... How does a club in the 3rd tier of English football attract new generation of support if it distances the currant fans ( the ones who suffer in all this row) I take my son to away games that are suitable for his age. Thanks to our 1st half of season form, Arron Phillips at wolves, an Chris 'magic' maguire at mk he's still a cov fan!!! The atmosphere at wolves, an 7000 at mk is enough to keep him away from Chelsea, Man city, utd...... But for how long!!! Ccfc need to come back soon to keep generations new an old sky blue!! Pusb.
 

Grendel

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torchomatic

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"Thinking" or having an opinion is fine. Telling someone they are wrong isn't

Why does living in a democracy mean that nobody can give an opinion on what they think is right or wrong?
 

torchomatic

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There are more families there than any other kind of supporter. From what I've seen around me the kids - including my own - have a wonderful time and cheer their team and scream and shout win, lose or draw. I remember having the same enthusiasm when I was a kid. Kids enjoy the game, they don't think about the politics and I haven't heard any of them grumbling about lack of atmosphere.

Have a go at me all you like, but I think your attitude does a disservice to many of the people that attend Sixfields. I'm pleased you aren't there to poison the kids with your nastiness.

Personally i wouldn't take any kids to sixfields especially if you want them to get the sky blue bug !!!
From what i hear on the radio and tv the atmosphere is zero !!!!
And a zero atmosphere is hardly likely to encourage young supporters !!!
Take them to away games it will at least give them a chance of enjoyment !!!
I can think of nothing worse than being stuck in a dead shit hole with the likes of RFC, Torch & co.
 

Grendel

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There are more families there than any other kind of supporter. From what I've seen around me the kids - including my own - have a wonderful time and cheer their team and scream and shout win, lose or draw. I remember having the same enthusiasm when I was a kid. Kids enjoy the game, they don't think about the politics and I haven't heard any of them grumbling about lack of atmosphere.

Have a go at me all you like, but I think your attitude does a disservice to many of the people that attend Sixfields. I'm pleased you aren't there to poison the kids with your nastiness.

Yes the only people I know who go are an elderly couple. They think its great and prefer it.
 

SIR ERNIE

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Yes the only people I know who go are an elderly couple. They think its great and prefer it.

That's because the only people you know are an elderly couple.
 

Spionkop

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Old Cheyles, you spoke of the away environment not being a good place for young kids. On a good day you can be next to really decent people. On a bad day you are stuck next to yobs. So I have sympathy with you.
We go to a good few away games but always sit on the side, away from the City fans. Always have done. Why not try that? You get to see the game without the crude language etc that you naturally don't want your kids to be around. I don't like it either. It's dressed up as 'banter.' But it is just gobby behaviour on the part of a minority.
I don't agree with you on the opening post at all. With respect I think you are being very naïve about what's going on.
The solution to all this is very simple. But Sisu won't take it.
Cheers. Seasons greetings.
 

Grendel

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Old Cheyles, you spoke of the away environment not being a good place for young kids. On a good day you can be next to really decent people. On a bad day you are stuck next to yobs. So I have sympathy with you.
We go to a good few away games but always sit on the side, away from the City fans. Always have done. Why not try that? You get to see the game without the crude language etc that you naturally don't want your kids to be around. I don't like it either. It's dressed up as 'banter.' But it is just gobby behaviour on the part of a minority.
I don't agree with you on the opening post at all. With respect I think you are being very naïve about what's going on.
The solution to all this is very simple. But Sisu won't take it.
Cheers. Seasons greetings.

You think all people who go to Northampton should be banned when we return - that was you wasn't it?
 

Grendel

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RPHunt

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I remember some of the large scale strikes in the car factories in Coventry. Always solidly supported by the workforce, but there was, occasionally, an oddball who insisted on going in as it was his "democratic right". I seem to remember one of these champions of democracy enlisting the support of one of the political parties and receiving words of encouragement from its leader. That leader's name was Colin Jordan and his party was the National Front.
 

GaryPendrysEyes

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There are more families there than any other kind of supporter. From what I've seen around me the kids - including my own - have a wonderful time and cheer their team and scream and shout win, lose or draw. I remember having the same enthusiasm when I was a kid. Kids enjoy the game, they don't think about the politics and I haven't heard any of them grumbling about lack of atmosphere.

Have a go at me all you like, but I think your attitude does a disservice to many of the people that attend Sixfields. I'm pleased you aren't there to poison the kids with your nastiness.

Is this the same Torch who said he wouldnt go to Sixfields? In fact got quite angry at the suggestion...You are full of bullshit fella.

Everyone posts their own opinions on here, that what forums are for, I gave mine, an honest opinion unlike your shite.
And yes we live in a democracy, the vast majority of fans choose not to go to Sixfields because they also feel it isn't right, live with it.
 
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GaryPendrysEyes

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Sixfields is apparently according to (Grendel and Torch) a happy go-lucky playground of children laughing and old folks bringing in Christmas cheer, just when you thought these two couldn't get any more ridiculous.

Then there is the reality of 1000 Cov fans stuck in a shed in Northants with zero atmosphere, because Sisu want the Ricoh on the cheap.
 

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