Banners & Chants at Sixfields (22 Viewers)

[Astute]

No, agree. The debacle for me is that of the club playing home games 34 miles away when there's a perfectly decent stadium already here in Coventry.

It was the owners who moved us out of the City and this should never ever have happened and I honestly believe that it didn't need to happen. Sisu should have dug their heels in and thrashed out something in terms of a deal that kept us playing our home games here at the Ricoh.

There was a deal to be done. Even a very short term deal could have been arranged while further negotiations were taking place.

What did me the most was when each time they said what they wanted and each time when it was offered they moved the goalposts. How many of us thought that the end was in sight when the rent free then 100k a season was offered? This could have been accepted and used whilst they got on with building a stadium. This was the time when I decided that no ground will be built. And it seems that nothing will happen until they get what CCC or Higgs can't let happen by law.

 

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[letsallsingtogether]

And I need someone to tie the laces on my Velcro shoes...

Takes me ages to cross the road bad foot,sometimes the lights can change ten times before I get across :facepalm:

 

[Deleted member 5849]

There's evidence Robinson went to ask but got nowhere but PWKH didn't class that was "whole hearted" so make of that what you will.

A cynic could suggest it's a case of being careful what you wish for, and to not agree a deal because somebody doesn't ask vigorously enough leaves open to a world of pain later on...

 

[cochese]

I'd love to know about the finer details of the original rent negotiation. PWKH has been on here and stated that the club turned down the offer of a sliding scale, as they thought they'd be back in the Prem soon and it wouldn't be worth while. He also said that until Sisu no-one seriously asked for a new deal. There's evidence Robinson went to ask but got nowhere but PWKH didn't class that was "whole hearted" so make of that what you will. Similarly, when Leonard Brody went to the papers saying the rent was killing the club Igwe and Delieu went public stating how it wasn't and that they are happy with it. So I find it a little hard to feel too sorry for the club here.

WRT how the council dropping the rent like they did. Well firstly, how you imagine things going when you first open and how things are going 7 years later are two different things. Circumstances changed significantly for both ACL and CCFC in that time. IIRC the original sliding scale had a level of roughly £400k/year in L1, maybe even less, I'm not sure. But as I say the original rent was too high and a negotiation was needed long ago.

The move from £400k to £150k was for two reasons: firstly the £400k offer included access to ACL's books for FFP reasons (and I think other revenue but am not 100% and some say it didn't). Secondly when the Sisu deal for ACL's mortgage fell through the restructured loan with CCC meant that the finances were better off and that ACL could offer a deal that isn't commercially viable but recognised the value the club has to the community/project as a whole.

At the end of the day, no matter what you think of them politically, the likes of Mutton and Lucas for CCC and the Higgs' ARE Coventry City fans. None of them want to see the club hurt. In fact that was Mutton's downfall as he stupidly thought he could engineer a situation where Sisu left the club and rightfully he fell on his sword.

I also find it slightly funny how you want nothing to do with the council because they didn't cut the rent fast enough, but will give a pass to Sisu who defended the rent figure and also moved the club out of the city. Like I say not judging, I just find it interesting that people on both sides will accept some behaviour and not others.

I feel that the whole Ranson, Brody, Igwe and Delieu saga was just never going to work. It was laughable. And I'm pretty sure SISU have freely admitted that. To employ that many people who knew nothing about how to run a football club was embarrassing. There you go Astute, I have acknowledged that SISU were shit.

That they have changed how things are run to me is a small sign that they want to get to grips with the situation. Fisher is making business decisions. Waggot the football decisions. The business decisions are alienating the fans but if the business feels that you simply can't deal with your landlord, then you're going to make that unpopular decision to temporarily move the club. It's wrong it shouldn't happen. It feels horrible every time I go to a home game.

But going back to my original point, I simply do not believe that fan power against SISU, can make SISU and ACL make up and be friends again. And I just want to watch my football club. Support the team. If I ever get the balls to talk to fisher at half time I'll go and tell him how stupid I think he is. If a rent deal gets offered, that I think benefits the club in the long term that isn't accepted, then we can have another conversation. But I haven't seen one, and I don't think I will.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

And I need someone to tie the laces on my Velcro shoes...

I'll wear my slip ons easier to tie

 

[Covstu]

Something is needed that will bring all sides together. Stopping innocent people from getting on with their lives won't help.

The way I see it is one side is willing to talk. The other side wants anything but to talk through their differences. The big problem we have is it is the side that can make things happen.

disagree as both sides have stated they have 'moved on'. I don't believe it for a second but when/if that first brick is laid maybe we will all change our stance but time will tell. The point is, we as fans cannot influence this but we can show our frustration in numbers, if that is stopping people going to town for an hour, so be it.

 

[SkyBlueBlood]

Sounds like a great idea. When does the chanting start at 6Fields?

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Sounds like a great idea. When does the chanting start at 6Fields?

Now thats a problem

 

[Astute]

disagree as both sides have stated they have 'moved on'. I don't believe it for a second but when/if that first brick is laid maybe we will all change our stance but time will tell. The point is, we as fans cannot influence this but we can show our frustration in numbers, if that is stopping people going to town for an hour, so be it.

SISUE have stated that the boat has sailed....but the last we heard from Timothy was there could be a rental agreement to be made. CCC have always been ready to talk.

 

[simple_simon]

I'll wear my slip ons easier to tie

Slippers are much better.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Well I heard a rumour today looks like they will have to build that new stadium now?

disagree as both sides have stated they have 'moved on'. I don't believe it for a second but when/if that first brick is laid maybe we will all change our stance but time will tell. The point is, we as fans cannot influence this but we can show our frustration in numbers, if that is stopping people going to town for an hour, so be it.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Slippers are much better.

I'm not as old as you

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Well I heard a rumour today looks like they will have to build that new stadium now?

Go on then ffs make my day

 

[ccfc92]

So some would have a go at people standing on the hill to protest and take the piss out of them...........and then say they would join them if there was many more doing it? :thinking about:

sounds like turncoats, IMHO

 

[Covstu]

SISUE have stated that the boat has sailed....but the last we heard from Timothy was there could be a rental agreement to be made. CCC have always been ready to talk.

didn't the lovely councellor say something similar recently........

 

[simple_simon]

Another rumour ( probably started in Leicester) is that they are going to buy Hinckley United's ground off the administrator .

 

[Grendel]

Well I heard a rumour today looks like they will have to build that new stadium now?

You've heard these rumours a lot haven't you?

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

sounds like turncoats, IMHO

Gloryhunters

 

[ccfc92]

Gloryhunters

But they are to do with CCFC?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Plastic hillgoers. Turn up, claim its a mountain, you never see them again when it's just a little mound.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

The thing is I have a lot of friends in the outside world, and actually speak to real people unlike your good self.

When I hear more I will post it.
All I've got to say is that apparently the Ricoh is not the white Elephant that some will like us to believe..:thinking about:

You've heard these rumours a lot haven't you?

 

[Hobo]

Plastic hillgoers. Turn up, claim its a mountain, you never see them again when it's just a little mound.

You'll never see the back of us.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Plastic hillgoers. Turn up, claim its a mountain, you never see them again when it's just a little mound.

So long as they turn up even once I would love it.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

LE postcode just to piss us off even more...Not the one I've heard but wouldn't put it past them QUOTE=simple_simon;632193]Another rumour ( probably started in Leicester) is that they are going to buy Hinckley United's ground off the administrator .[/QUOTE]

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

You'll never see the back of us.

Are you going up?

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

But they are to do with CCFC?

Better late than never

 

[Hobo]

Plastic hillgoers. Turn up, claim its a mountain, you never see them again when it's just a little mound.

Did you blindly follow the exodus to find the oasis dry? Only the man selling tickets is the man getting fat?

 

[standupforcity]

We support the team, not the move.

Then stand up and make that statement if it's how you feel!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So long as they turn up even once I would love it.

They'd turn up with their Starbucks coffees and deckchairs, talk about the last time they were sat on a hill back in '83, ask where the toilet is and then sod off making you feel empty and used.

 

[Hobo]

They'd turn up with their Starbucks coffees and deckchairs, talk about the last time they were sat on a hill back in '83, ask where the toilet is and then sod off making you feel empty and used.

The only hill they would have been on in 83 was the Spion Kop. Where were you at HR?

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

They'd turn up with their Starbucks coffees and deckchairs, talk about the last time they were sat on a hill back in '83, ask where the toilet is and then sod off making you feel empty and used.

Not like I'm not feeling empty and used at the moment.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The only hill they would have been on in 83 was the Spion Kop. Where were you at HR?

I can safely say this particular piece of satire hasn't worked...:thinking about:

Back in 83 I was pissing my nappy and shouting for Mummy.

Just left school y'see.

 

[Hobo]

I can safely say this particular piece of satire hasn't worked...:thinking about:

Back in 83 I was pissing my nappy and shouting for Mummy.

Just left school y'see.

Perhaps you haven't got a real feel for our history yet? What it all means to be moved to Northampton by people totally disconnected from our club.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Perhaps you haven't got a real feel for our history yet? What it all means to be moved to Northampton by people totally disconnected to our club.

Yes, you're a considerably better fan than me:jerkit:

 

[Hobo]

Yes, you're a considerably better fan than me:jerkit:

Not particularly, just making decisions based on the history I know.