Pressley Post Match Interview (6 Viewers)

mark82

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Apologies if this has been posted already.

[video=youtube;ywVuyPqcYUI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywVuyPqcYUI&list=UUch_NWdo3JWKngAyO9XlycA&feature=c4-overview[/video]

For me one of his best interviews. Very honest without blaming individuals.
 

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mark82

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Apologies if this has been posted already.

[YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywVuyPqcYUI&list=UUch_NWdo3JWKngAyO9XlycA&feature=c4-overview[/YouTube]

For me one of his best interviews. Very honest without blaming individuals.

Trying to work out what the hell I'm doing wrong embedding this video.
 
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Huckerby

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Im sorry but what the hell is the crack with all of these makeshift interviews? Right bodge job. Looks like it was filmed with a fucking potato.....people sticking iPhones in Pressleys face instead of a microphone...godknowswho in the room chatting away and making noise and casting a shadow on the picture...

And on the rare occasion that its filmed with a CCFC advert board (or whatever its called) in the background, its wobbling all over the place as someone is clearly just holding it up. I remember seeing one a week or two ago and Pressley looked visibly pissed off that people were coming in and out of the room and slamming the door.

Okay, so its not that important in the grand scheme of things but it just looks SO cheap and unprofessional. Is it that hard to use a microphone and get the bloke into a spare room? Maybe that would be too expensive.....
As if the club isn't enough of a laughing stock
 

Noggin

New Member
and these are the people who won best digital content? 240p recorded with a phone? can barely make out what he is saying especially when the wind is blowing.
 

KG7

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Im sorry but what the hell is the crack with all of these makeshift interviews? Right bodge job. Looks like it was filmed with a fucking potato.....people sticking iPhones in Pressleys face instead of a microphone...godknowswho in the room chatting away and making noise and casting a shadow on the picture...

And on the rare occasion that its filmed with a CCFC advert board (or whatever its called) in the background, its wobbling all over the place as someone is clearly just holding it up. I remember seeing one a week or two ago and Pressley looked visibly pissed off that people were coming in and out of the room and slamming the door.

Okay, so its not that important in the grand scheme of things but it just looks SO cheap and unprofessional. Is it that hard to use a microphone and get the bloke into a spare room? Maybe that would be too expensive.....
As if the club isn't enough of a laughing stock

Seriously? Who cares? If I want high production values and 4k resolution I'll go to the cinema. If I want to hear the content of what our manager says 15 minutes after the game, then I'll put up with the microphones, bad framing, and dodgy set that are necessary to get it online so quickly. Do you really think Pressley has the time or inclination to do these interviews twice so that our media team can make it look pretty?
 
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Huckerby

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Seriously? Who cares? If I want high production values and 4k resolution I'll go to the cinema. If I want to hear the content of what our manager says 15 minutes after the game, then I'll put up with the microphones, bad framing, and dodgy set that are necessary to get it online so quickly. Do you really think Pressley has the time or inclination to do these interviews twice so that our media team can make it look pretty?
how about just once properly?
 

mark82

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Seriously? Who cares? If I want high production values and 4k resolution I'll go to the cinema. If I want to hear the content of what our manager says 15 minutes after the game, then I'll put up with the microphones, bad framing, and dodgy set that are necessary to get it online so quickly. Do you really think Pressley has the time or inclination to do these interviews twice so that our media team can make it look pretty?

I've never seen an issue with it. I want to hear what he has to say, not look at a pretty set behind him.
 

KG7

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how about just once properly?

You can't do it once properly. He's filming an interview setup for radio so subsequently, you're either gonna not shoot because it's not gonna look nice, or grab what you can get. Or get him to do it once for the benefit of the radio so they can get their iPhones in and once for the benefit of YouTube so you can take them out and frame it nicely.
 
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Huckerby

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You can't do it once properly. He's filming an interview setup for radio so subsequently, you're either gonna not shoot because it's not gonna look nice, or grab what you can get. Or get him to do it once for the benefit of the radio so they can get their iPhones in and once for the benefit of YouTube so you can take them out and frame it nicely.

good point tbf...didn't think about it being recorded solely for radio and then a video just being taken and uploaded.

But still holds for the ones that have a board behind him wobbling all over the place. I'm not losing sleep over it im just saying it looks really shitty
 

Noggin

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It isn't a good point, you can very easily do it properly, we arn't asking for a set and 4k, it just needs to be filmed by a dslr, with an image stabilised lens and an external mic, you could do it brilliantly for a grand, well for a few hundred, or for free by asking a fan with the equipment to do it, you'd easily be able to find someone with the offer of free season ticket, free away tickets and the ability to sell the photos you take to getty. are they doing it properly for radio or does it sound the same there with loud wind noise and general awful sound quality.

There is no good reason for quality this bad, its simply incompetence and while it's not the end of the world of course I bet a significant amount of people don't watch that whole interview due to its quality. no one is asking for perfect, just reasonable picture quality, no shaky cam and the ability to clearly hear the questions and answers.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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Im sorry but what the hell is the crack with all of these makeshift interviews? Right bodge job. Looks like it was filmed with a fucking potato.....people sticking iPhones in Pressleys face instead of a microphone...godknowswho in the room chatting away and making noise and casting a shadow on the picture...

And on the rare occasion that its filmed with a CCFC advert board (or whatever its called) in the background, its wobbling all over the place as someone is clearly just holding it up. I remember seeing one a week or two ago and Pressley looked visibly pissed off that people were coming in and out of the room and slamming the door.

Okay, so its not that important in the grand scheme of things but it just looks SO cheap and unprofessional. Is it that hard to use a microphone and get the bloke into a spare room? Maybe that would be too expensive.....
As if the club isn't enough of a laughing stock

This was filmed at Notts County...it's their responsibility to provide adequate post-match interview facilities. They've obviously not done that, yet that's our fault? Unbelieveable this place sometime.

It's not even at 'home' and it's our fault. FFS!!!

WM
 
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Huckerby

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This was filmed at Notts County...it's their responsibility to provide adequate post-match interview facilities. They've obviously not done that, yet that's our fault? Unbelieveable this place sometime.

It's not even at 'home' and it's our fault. FFS!!!

WM

Sorry if I wasn't clear (thought I was when I used the plural of "interviews", and referring to others in the past) but it wasn't a rant about this specific interview. Look back through the interviews and you'll find that its all the same. Even at "home" games he's in a room with people coming in and out with a wobbly ccfc board behind, probably being held up by a ball boy, 3 iphones shoved in his face, poor quality, and being filmed with what seems like a Nokia 6230.

Even if I was exclusively referring to this one interview, which I wasn't, I doubt it would be hard to find an empty room, stick someone outside saying wait 2 minutes we're having an interview, and use a microphone and a camera on a tripod?
 

shmmeee

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My Y10 Media students could do better for nothing. There'd be a ton of people with the skills and probably the kit who would do it just for experience or because they're fans.
 

Skyblueweeman

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Sorry if I wasn't clear (thought I was when I used the plural of "interviews", and referring to others in the past) but it wasn't a rant about this specific interview. Look back through the interviews and you'll find that its all the same. Even at "home" games he's in a room with people coming in and out with a wobbly ccfc board behind, probably being held up by a ball boy, 3 iphones shoved in his face, poor quality, and being filmed with what seems like a Nokia 6230.

Even if I was exclusively referring to this one interview, which I wasn't, I doubt it would be hard to find an empty room, stick someone outside saying wait 2 minutes we're having an interview, and use a microphone and a camera on a tripod?

Apologies, I did mis-read...my bad.

I get what your saying...but the quality of what's said is the most important thing for me (i'm sure it is for you as well). Couldn't give a two hoots if it looks like it's been filmed by two giddy school boys who've just found a secret stash of Hooch.

If anything, it's more reflective of our ramshackles of a club, in the public eye. If it's happening elsewhere, League One clubs media depts need to take a long hard look at themselves!

Like I said though, SPs content is more important than flappy boards (almost a topical reference there....) in the background. Apologies again for mis-reading.

WM
 

skybluefred

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Sorry if I wasn't clear (thought I was when I used the plural of "interviews", and referring to others in the past) but it wasn't a rant about this specific interview. Look back through the interviews and you'll find that its all the same. Even at "home" games he's in a room with people coming in and out with a wobbly ccfc board behind, probably being held up by a ball boy, 3 iphones shoved in his face, poor quality, and being filmed with what seems like a Nokia 6230.





We haven't had a home game this season yet. If you abscond to play on a cabbage patch the off field facilities
will be the same as the pitch--Rubbish.
 
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Huckerby

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Apologies, I did mis-read...my bad.

I get what your saying...but the quality of what's said is the most important thing for me (i'm sure it is for you as well). Couldn't give a two hoots if it looks like it's been filmed by two giddy school boys who've just found a secret stash of Hooch.

If anything, it's more reflective of our ramshackles of a club, in the public eye. If it's happening elsewhere, League One clubs media depts need to take a long hard look at themselves!

Like I said though, SPs content is more important than flappy boards (almost a topical reference there....) in the background. Apologies again for mis-reading.

WM

No worries mate.
The bold bit mate me literally crack up at work.
You're right though, more important what he's saying. Whenever I listen to him I genuinely think he's being honest and talking sense too....rather than the bullshit that I hear from most managers interviews. Hope he doesn't leave....
 

KG7

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It isn't a good point, you can very easily do it properly, we arn't asking for a set and 4k, it just needs to be filmed by a dslr, with an image stabilised lens and an external mic, you could do it brilliantly for a grand, well for a few hundred, or for free by asking a fan with the equipment to do it, you'd easily be able to find someone with the offer of free season ticket, free away tickets and the ability to sell the photos you take to getty. are they doing it properly for radio or does it sound the same there with loud wind noise and general awful sound quality.

There is no good reason for quality this bad, its simply incompetence and while it's not the end of the world of course I bet a significant amount of people don't watch that whole interview due to its quality. no one is asking for perfect, just reasonable picture quality, no shaky cam and the ability to clearly hear the questions and answers.

I think you're missing the point Noggin.

Clearly this is the media guy filming the radio interviews with SP on his iPhone to put it on YouTube.

Even with a DSLR, an image stabiliser and an external mic (often shitter than an iPhone mic) you'd still have the microphone in front of his face and the wobbling CCFC board behind him.

Plus you're overcomplicating something which is essentially just Stephen Pressley giving a radio interview. IE, you'd then have to digitise the rushes, edit them, and export them. What's the point when you can just film it on your iphone and upload it to YouTube straight away? Not to mention the hassle of organising an extra person to come with their DSLR kit and giving them a free season ticket!

As a consumer of this I'd much rather hear what Stephen Pressley has to say at 17:00 on a matchday then wait until 18:00 for a prettier picture - I barely ever look at it anyway.
 

stupot07

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Does it really matter?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors :)
 

shmmeee

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I think you're missing the point Noggin.

Clearly this is the media guy filming the radio interviews with SP on his iPhone to put it on YouTube.

Even with a DSLR, an image stabiliser and an external mic (often shitter than an iPhone mic) you'd still have the microphone in front of his face and the wobbling CCFC board behind him.

Plus you're overcomplicating something which is essentially just Stephen Pressley giving a radio interview. IE, you'd then have to digitise the rushes, edit them, and export them. What's the point when you can just film it on your iphone and upload it to YouTube straight away? Not to mention the hassle of organising an extra person to come with their DSLR kit and giving them a free season ticket!

As a consumer of this I'd much rather hear what Stephen Pressley has to say at 17:00 on a matchday then wait until 18:00 for a prettier picture - I barely ever look at it anyway.

You could get a stabalising iPhone case and an external light and mike and use the same software they're using to send to YouTube right now. No editing or anything else needed. It's about the inputs, not the processes.
 

KG7

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You could get a stabalising iPhone case and an external light and mike and use the same software they're using to send to YouTube right now. No editing or anything else needed.

Yes, but again, it's extra kit and you'd still have the problem of iPhone's in his face and the wobbly board.

If this was a Press Conference with a proper stage in a proper MediaSuite - I think shooting it in this way would be bizarre. However, grabbing a radio interview on your iPhone in Notts County's dugout so you can upload it quickly for the fans - perfectly reasonable.

It's about the inputs, not the processes.

What do you mean? There are no inputs into an iPhone or a DSLR.
 

shmmeee

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Yes, but again, it's extra kit and you'd still have the problem of iPhone's in his face and the wobbly board.

If this was a Press Conference with a proper stage in a proper MediaSuite - I think shooting it in this way would be bizarre. However, grabbing a radio interview on your iPhone in Notts County's dugout so you can upload it quickly for the fans - perfectly reasonable.



What do you mean? There are no inputs into an iPhone or a DSLR.

Any system is made of three parts: the inputs, the processes and the outputs.

In the case of video editing the inputs are the raw footage, the processes the editing and the outputs the finished video.

Your post was saying that post-production (the processing) would add too much time. I agree, however the issue is that the video isn't particularly well edited or in fact that it needs editing, but rather that the raw footage is poor quality. I was simply saying that for minimal outlay and no change in the workflow you could massively improve that if you wanted.

It may be "good enough" but in terms of overall marketing impact I think it's lacking due to poor quality footage and sound.

Edit: and you do have several inputs on an iPhone. Even on a DSLR you have trigger input and many can be remotely controlled entirely.
 

KG7

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Any system is made of three parts: the inputs, the processes and the outputs.

many can be remotely controlled entirely.

I would have said that was an output, but semantics aside, this is a bizarre discussion for a football forum but it's tough not to hold back. Do you have any experience in FilmMaking Shmee / Noggin or is it a hobby of yours?
 

torchomatic

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FFS, people are even moaning about the quality of the recording equipment at interviews now.
 

Tonylinc

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What the hell are you lot on about? I am a CCFC fan and all I want to do is get the Manager's opinion after a game. I really don't care about the quality of the interview (provided that I can hear it).
 

Seaside-Skyblue

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Im sorry but what the hell is the crack with all of these makeshift interviews? Right bodge job. Looks like it was filmed with a fucking potato.....people sticking iPhones in Pressleys face instead of a microphone...godknowswho in the room chatting away and making noise and casting a shadow on the picture...

And on the rare occasion that its filmed with a CCFC advert board (or whatever its called) in the background, its wobbling all over the place as someone is clearly just holding it up. I remember seeing one a week or two ago and Pressley looked visibly pissed off that people were coming in and out of the room and slamming the door.

Okay, so its not that important in the grand scheme of things but it just looks SO cheap and unprofessional. Is it that hard to use a microphone and get the bloke into a spare room? Maybe that would be too expensive.....
As if the club isn't enough of a laughing stock

Ha that made me laugh! Your very right.
 

Noggin

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I think you're missing the point Noggin.

Clearly this is the media guy filming the radio interviews with SP on his iPhone to put it on YouTube.

Even with a DSLR, an image stabiliser and an external mic (often shitter than an iPhone mic) you'd still have the microphone in front of his face and the wobbling CCFC board behind him.

Plus you're overcomplicating something which is essentially just Stephen Pressley giving a radio interview. IE, you'd then have to digitise the rushes, edit them, and export them. What's the point when you can just film it on your iphone and upload it to YouTube straight away? Not to mention the hassle of organising an extra person to come with their DSLR kit and giving them a free season ticket!

As a consumer of this I'd much rather hear what Stephen Pressley has to say at 17:00 on a matchday then wait until 18:00 for a prettier picture - I barely ever look at it anyway.

I'm not missing the point, you seem to be saying its not possible to do it perfectly quickly and without extra effort (which is fair enough) so might as well just do it terribly (which isn't fair enough) it's possible to do it decently with very little extra effort.

Not sure what you mean about the wobbling ccfc board behind him, isn't he just sitting in front of an advertising hoarding which looks like it's moving around because the guy holding the camera can't keep his hands still? (edit sorry I see that was in regards to another interview, holding up an advertising hoarding is much more effort than using a dslr rather than an iphone.

I don't think im over complicating it at all, yes it requires extra effort to do it my way but you are talking a couple of minutes tops and the difference in results is immense. You seem to be the one over complicating it with the talk of digitising rushes, editing and exporting, you can record on a dslr, transfer it to a laptop and upload straight to youtube, 1 min job obviously the upload to you tube takes a little longer at 720p quality but I assume all stadia have wireless? as every game has multiple people with dslrs and laptops ready to upload their photos straight to getty and the like. We aren't asking for a polished, perfectly lit, expertly edited clip, we are asking for watchable quality where you can easily hear the questions and answers.

It's also complete nonsense suggesting a dslr external mic is often shitter than an iphone mic. These days hobbyists have cameras cable of taking video thats good enough to use in hollywood movies, it's obviously not hollywood's first choice though of course.

Of course the important part of the interview is the sound so your point about not wanting to wait for a pretty picture might be fair if thats all it was but the sound is abysmal, the absolute least we should be expecting from an interview is to be able to hear well and not have loud wind noise, the other interview is even worse than the Pressley one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia1BILWI7w4 the wind is significantly louder than both the interviewer and interviewee. an proper external mic prevents this.

The Average person watched 36% of the Dan Seaborne video and 41% of the Stephen Pressley video, I'd have thought there aren't many people coming across these videos randomly, they are mostly people who want to hear what they want to say, so watching such a small percentage of already very short videos is very poor and I'm positive the quality has a big part to play in that. I turned off the seaborne video after 20 seconds or so as it simply wasn't worth it.
 
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Noggin

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Does it really matter?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors :)

I think it does, it is one of the least serious issues affecting our club of course but it's also the easiest one to solve. Having a good digital presence, providing good content is a good way to keep your fan base engaged, informed and feeling like a part of the club, this increases attendances and fan morale and things like sky blue player bring in extra revenue.
 
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