'Series of hotels' to be built at Ricoh Arena (7 Viewers)

[Grendel]

That's because generally business travellers have there accommodation paid for by their company, usually off ridiculous call off contracts.

Just checked the next 14 days - only one day has fewer than 30 hotels with rooms. - everyone accuses me of not answering questions - well can one if the council friends please explain the need for a hotel. Italia you said its impossible to book in the week - more bollocks from you I see. I assume astute is trying to book a hotel in Coventry Rhode Island.

 

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[Skyblueweeman]

There is one hotel I have found with no rooms this week - the Ramada - seriously its the easiest City I have known to book rooms

I don't know that hotel but do know of one major chain hotel in Coventry whom I work for that will run along the same lines as my earlier post.

With regards to this one you mention, there could be a host of reasons why they have rooms free. They could've had a large group tour in (unlikely but not implausible on a midweek) which has cancelled last rooms...they therefore have inventory and room stock to sell last minute. It could be a poor standard hotel and no one books it etc etc but don't know.

Like anything, there's always exceptions to any given rule, but generally, I'm confident that my earlier post is factually correct.

WM

 

[James Smith]

About time, rather than expecting any owners of the football club to build hotels, which was always a bizarre concept.

Well as our football club doesn't look likely to be going back there with our current owners, it's not going to be them building the hotels.

None of this really helps get our club playing back in Coventry unless I've missed something and that surely has to be the main priority at the moment. It doesn’t matter if it's groundshare with the rugby club or even the Higgs Centre in Allard way but we need to come home.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Just checked the next 14 days - only one day has fewer than 30 hotels with rooms. - everyone accuses me of not answering questions - well can one if the council friends please explain the need for a hotel. Italia you said its impossible to book in the week - more bollocks from you I see. I assume astute is trying to book a hotel in Coventry Rhode Island.

Grendel, I didn't see Italias comments and not sure if I always agree with what he writes. But let me tell you this...I work for one of the worlds largest hotel companies (and I'm not a cleaner....) and by and large, Tues/Weds, major chain hotels are 90-100% occupied. Yes, up to 14 nights out, you'll still have rooms.

Try booking a chain hotel on a Tuesday or Wednesday for that night and you might get a room. I gaurantee you'll pay twice as much as you normally would. Hotel pricing is very dynamic (like, can change hourly).

WM

 

[Astute]

Just checked the next 14 days - only one day has fewer than 30 hotels with rooms. - everyone accuses me of not answering questions - well can one if the council friends please explain the need for a hotel. Italia you said its impossible to book in the week - more bollocks from you I see. I assume astute is trying to book a hotel in Coventry Rhode Island.

I never said you couldn't get a room. I said they cost more during the week in Coventry. But no.....you keep going on about vacancies

 

[Moff]

FFS if we aren't arguing over SISU/ACL etc, we are arguing over hotels and hotel rooms. Still I suppose it makes a change to the usual rows.

Must remind myself to move away from the computer

 

[fernandopartridge]

Grendel, I didn't see Italias comments and not sure if I always agree with what he writes. But let me tell you this...I work for one of the worlds largest hotel companies (and I'm not a cleaner....) and by and large, Tues/Weds, major chain hotels are 90-100% occupied. Yes, up to 14 nights out, you'll still have rooms.

Try booking a chain hotel on a Tuesday or Wednesday for that night and you might get a room. I gaurantee you'll pay twice as much as you normally would. Hotel pricing is very dynamic (like, can change hourly).

WM

Hotel pricing is in the same bracket as any travel pricing - it's a captive market when it comes to it, i.e. if you need to travel to London at short notice you'll have to pay for it, it doesn't really answer the point that it's generally easy to book a hotel in Coventry during the week. Like I said earlier, I have a number of colleagues who do, often at short notice. It's rare they don't get their first choice hotel.

 

[dongonzalos]

Hotel pricing is in the same bracket as any travel pricing - it's a captive market when it comes to it, i.e. if you need to travel to London at short notice you'll have to pay for it, it doesn't really answer the point that it's generally easy to book a hotel in Coventry during the week. Like I said earlier, I have a number of colleagues who do, often at short notice. It's rare they don't get their first choice hotel.

The Ricoh apparently has struggled to win some conferences as there was not enough hotel space for delegates

 

[Grendel]

The Ricoh apparently has struggled to win some conferences as there was not enough hotel space for delegates

6 rooms available tonight - 50% off - rooms available every weekday this and next week.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Hotel pricing is in the same bracket as any travel pricing - it's a captive market when it comes to it, i.e. if you need to travel to London at short notice you'll have to pay for it, it doesn't really answer the point that it's generally easy to book a hotel in Coventry during the week. Like I said earlier, I have a number of colleagues who do, often at short notice. It's rare they don't get their first choice hotel.

They're obviously not staying in classy establishments

 

[dongonzalos]

Just checked the next 14 days - only one day has fewer than 30 hotels with rooms. - everyone accuses me of not answering questions - well can one if the council friends please explain the need for a hotel. Italia you said its impossible to book in the week - more bollocks from you I see. I assume astute is trying to book a hotel in Coventry Rhode Island.

Have read the last 4-5 pages however I presume you are already aware that the Ricoh can't compete for some conferences due to a lack of on site rooms.

 

[fernandopartridge]

The Ricoh apparently has struggled to win some conferences as there was not enough hotel space for delegates

You'd think then that ACL would be investing in the hotel provision considering they've increased turnover by 100% in a year, according to what was published in the Telegraph a while ago.

My personal view is that Coventry City Council should use some of the designated 'Friargate' scheme as a conference centre and forget about the Arena, let it be a football stadium.

 

[dongonzalos]

Grendel, I didn't see Italias comments and not sure if I always agree with what he writes. But let me tell you this...I work for one of the worlds largest hotel companies (and I'm not a cleaner....) and by and large, Tues/Weds, major chain hotels are 90-100% occupied. Yes, up to 14 nights out, you'll still have rooms.

Try booking a chain hotel on a Tuesday or Wednesday for that night and you might get a room. I gaurantee you'll pay twice as much as you normally would. Hotel pricing is very dynamic (like, can change hourly).

WM

Try booking 200 rooms for a conference

 

[ajsccfc]

This Friargate thing is going to balls up my commute something rotten. That whole ring road junction closed for a year? Nightmare.

 

[Grendel]

I never said you couldn't get a room. I said they cost more during the week in Coventry. But no.....you keep going on about vacancies

Up to 50% discount in 3 hotels this week - anyway we are talking corporate people they don't give a stuff its all pre booked by their travel department.

 

[Astute]

You'd think then that ACL would be investing in the hotel provision considering they've increased turnover by 100% in a year, according to what was published in the Telegraph a while ago.

My personal view is that Coventry City Council should use some of the designated 'Friargate' scheme as a conference centre and forget about the Arena, let it be a football stadium.

There would still be a football stadium. Just like there would still be a casino. Everything else would still be there.

 

[Grendel]

Try booking 200 rooms for a conference

Have you ever tried doing that for the NEC - where do you think they stay?

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Look....I think a combination of common sense + the abundance of real-time evidence gathered by Grendel here (too much time on your hands mate) pretty much proves that a "Series of hotels" on the outskirts of the city next to a Tesco & an empty stadium is a shit idea....

...Yes, there are always exceptions.....you know...the one night per decade Bruce Springsteen arrives in town....guess what....their may be a higher demand for rooms...

...but for Le*cester U21 games, mystic fucking meg or some tin-pot trade show about kitchen worktops.....I can't see them queueing off the M6...can you.

 

[mrbluesky87]

FFS if we aren't arguing over SISU/ACL etc, we are arguing over hotels and hotel rooms. Still I suppose it makes a change to the usual rows.

Must remind myself to move away from the computer

Still, could be worse, it could just be a piece of derelict land with a large gas tower on it.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Try booking 200 rooms for a conference

The Novotel which is pretty close to the Arena is usually available, i know this as it was a last resort for colleagues who couldn't get in at the Ramada or others nearer town.

 

[Astute]

Up to 50% discount in 3 hotels this week - anyway we are talking corporate people they don't give a stuff its all pre booked by their travel department.

3 hotels out of how many?

Of course there is always late deals. But do you want to risk not getting a room? Do you want to risk not getting the rooms of the size you want? Do you want to have to risk slumming it?

 

[Skyblueweeman]

The Ricoh apparently has struggled to win some conferences as there was not enough hotel space for delegates

I can name a number of large venues across the UK where that's the case...

Grendel...you're looking at one night/week in isolation. And you're probably correct...trust me, any hotel worth it's salt, this won't be the case regularly.

WM

 

[dongonzalos]

You'd think then that ACL would be investing in the hotel provision considering they've increased turnover by 100% in a year, according to what was published in the Telegraph a while ago.

My personal view is that Coventry City Council should use some of the designated 'Friargate' scheme as a conference centre and forget about the Arena, let it be a football stadium.

I hope it expands and becomes what it was always meant to. Also at the same time someone buys the football club who has the ability and vision to be involved with the plan and help drive it forward. People who understand that success on the pitch in those circumstances will lead to success off it.
At the same time pocketing a tidy little profit for themselves.
Currently it seems like a far fetched dream.

However I genuinely believe the more realistic it is that the Ricoh can be a success without CCFC. The quicker the club will return

 

[Grendel]

The Novotel which is pretty close to the Arena is usually available, i know this as it was a last resort for colleagues who couldn't get in at the Ramada or others nearer town.

If it was only 200 it would be very easy to book for such a smal quantity in Coventry.

 

[Astute]

If it was only 200 it would be very easy to book for such a smal quantity in Coventry.

Yeah. 10 in this hotel, 10 in that hotel, another 10 in that one................or 200 in one place on your doorstep. Would you book a place where your guests or colleagues can walk around the corner to their room or would you be happy sending them all over the place?

You say you earn over 100k a year doing an unskilled job. You don't have a clue about businesses and how they make money though do you?

 

[Captain Dart]

So I take it by the massive interest in this topic no one actually thinks SISU have moved on and will build a new stadium.

 

[Astute]

So I take it by the massive interest in this topic no one actually thinks SISU have moved on and will build a new stadium.

Some people on here may be thick, but they are not that thick...........

 

[fernandopartridge]

24 pages now :claping hands:

 

[Astute]

24 pages now :claping hands:

I spoke too soon . I am only on page 6

 

[Grendel]

Yeah. 10 in this hotel, 10 in that hotel, another 10 in that one................or 200 in one place on your doorstep. Would you book a place where your guests or colleagues can walk around the corner to their room or would you be happy sending them all over the place?

You say you earn over 100k a year doing an unskilled job. You don't have a clue about businesses and how they make money though do you?

Well you clearly don't have a clue because when the motor show was on that's exactly what you'd do. The NEC was always a logistical nightmare to book hotels. Senior guys you'd reserve the mail mason pretty easily with a long lead time but agency staff would always be spread over several hotels across the area.

Goodwood festival of speed is another disaster. Once haven holidays caravans were deployed. As I say why discuss something you know nothing about?

 

[wingy]

The more I read It would seem he's saying for the price It would cost us for HIGGS we will clear the loan and HIGGS lose their stake.,cute as a strategy as that Is you can sense why It did'nt. fly.

Edit; Sorry in response to you MMM

 

[duffer]

Look....I think a combination of common sense + the abundance of real-time evidence gathered by Grendel here (too much time on your hands mate) pretty much proves that a "Series of hotels" on the outskirts of the city next to a Tesco & an empty stadium is a shit idea....

...Yes, there are always exceptions.....you know...the one night per decade Bruce Springsteen arrives in town....guess what....their may be a higher demand for rooms...

...but for Le*cester U21 games, mystic fucking meg or some tin-pot trade show about kitchen worktops.....I can't see them queueing off the M6...can you.

Erm... that'll be common sense backed by no evidence whatsoever and the "abundance of real time evidence" based on trying to book one room when there's nothing on at the Ricoh.

From my personal experience, I know of at least one big corporate, Argos, who use the Ricoh for annual conferences but have to dot delgates in rather poor hotels all over town. Similarly, we've had problems finding hotels on my side of town for family events when the NEC has something big on at the same time.

Let's not call it common sense, eh. Let's be honest and call it your opinion - whether it makes sense or not is up for debate.

 

[Grendel]

Erm... that'll be common sense backed by no evidence whatsoever and the "abundance of real time evidence" based on trying to book one room when there's nothing on at the Ricoh.

From my personal experience, I know of at least one big corporate, Argos, who use the Ricoh for annual conferences but have to dot delgates in rather poor hotels all over town. Similarly, we've had problems finding hotels on my side of town for family events when the NEC has something big on at the same time.

Let's not call it common sense, eh. Let's be honest and call it your opinion - whether it makes sense or not is up for debate.

It makes perfect sense. Sorry chum but I used to host motor show events at the NEC, Earls Court and excel. I worked at these venues for years and the organisation is a logistic nightmare. The notion one hotel will satisfy the need is idiotic.

The NEC has little accommodation on site and you have to book well in advance to secure block bookings. Reality is most stands for events are hosted by agency staff who really don't give a stuff where they stay. You book hotels in a radius and you literally bus them in. Coventry hotels on the north of the city were always the easiest option to book compared to Birmingham hotels but that's not the point. The point is event hosts are spread across various hotels often miles from venues and that's the norm in the industry. This whole thread is ignorant bollocks.

 

[Kingokings204]

I have read every single post.

What's more likely to happen..

A new stadium or another hotel?

We all know the answer.

Either way I really think sisu and unfortunately CCFC are screwed. I ask myself if I was ccfc/Otium what would I do? I would be back at the Ricoh like a shot but this probably won't happen so where does this leave ccfc?

Screwed I'm afraid.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Well you clearly don't have a clue because when the motor show was on that's exactly what you'd do. The NEC was always a logistical nightmare to book hotels. Senior guys you'd reserve the mail mason pretty easily with a long lead time but agency staff would always be spread over several hotels across the area.

Goodwood festival of speed is another disaster. Once haven holidays caravans were deployed. As I say why discuss something you know nothing about?

I'm glad you mentioned Goodwood FoS. One of the hotels I look after is one of the closest 4star hotels in the area...we could sell the hotel 5 times over on those dates. We still fill on Tuesdays and Wednesdays regularly, even though we're in rural West Sussex.

For FoS, pretty every hotel on the South Coast between Brighton and Southampton (and as far North as Guildford) are full (with reservations anyway).