'Series of hotels' to be built at Ricoh Arena (1 Viewer)

DaleM

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Didn't the council get an independent evaluation of the Ricoh before remortgaging and the value, based on the club there paying £500k rent per year came out at £6.5m for the whole lot?????

If that is what the council valued it, how much do you expect SISU to pay for the Ricoh with no football team there???


I expect them to at least give the Higgs Charity the money that the Higgs loaned CCFC. I don't give a shit about the council. You do not rip off a charity to get your investors millions .
 

Bennets Afro

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I think that's more likely to be a valuation of ACL, the business holding the lease, at the point that SISU weren't paying any rent, rather than a valuation of the entire Ricoh (costing £118m to build with a decent slab of land for development).

How much are SISU planning to spend on the new 12,000 seat arena?


ACL isin't worth £6.5m, it is broke!!!
 

DaleM

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They never loaned it them! They bought the clubs 50% stake in ACL, so they invested in a stadium operating company
They helped the club out of the shit in a hour of need then , when nobody else would , with an agreement that CCFC would buy it back . I would say the 50% was collateral on the loan .
 

stupot07

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They helped the club out of the shit in a hour of need then , when nobody else would , with an agreement that CCFC would buy it back . I would say the 50% was collateral on the loan .

So in theory CCFC are actually part owners of ACL. Sweet.


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DaleM

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So in theory CCFC are actually part owners of ACL. Sweet.


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They should be but SISU never took the option up and then fucking liquidated CCFC and now look where we are . They only had to give them the money back for the 50% . It would have cost them a lot less in the long run. Short sightedness or part of the master plan . Who knows , but I know one thing . Us fans have been royally fucked over in the last six years.
 

covmark

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They should be but SISU never took the option up and then fucking liquidated CCFC and now look where we are . They only had to give them the money back for the 50% . It would have cost them a lot less in the long run. Short sightedness or part of the master plan . Who knows , but I know one thing . Us fans have been royally fucked over in the last six years.

We've been fucked over far longer than that mate.
 

DaleM

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Right Nicks about back on topic.

What sort of idiots would build a hotel in fucking Holbrooks. It's worse than fucking Bell Green :D
 

mrtrench

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Good. SISU can stuff it up their arse for nothing and fuck off while they're doing it.
 

James Smith

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ACL isin't worth £6.5m, it is broke!!!

We won't know the financial health of ACL or SBL or Otium until the accounts are published. Unless you are outing yourself as someone with inside knowledge of any of the firms listed.
 

duffer

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ACL isin't worth £6.5m, it is broke!!!

Well I suppose we'll see when the accounts come out - although all those exclamation marks, maybe it is a fact and I'd missed it.

Actually, if you'd have just said "FACT" or "END OF" at the end of your post, I suppose I'd have known for sure. ;)

In the meantime, remind me again, how much are SISU proposing to spend on the new 12,000 seat arena?
 

dongonzalos

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Well I suppose we'll see when the accounts come out - although all those exclamation marks, maybe it is a fact and I'd missed it.

Actually, if you'd have just said "FACT" or "END OF" at the end of your post, I suppose I'd have known for sure. ;)

In the meantime, remind me again, how much are SISU proposing to spend on the new 12,000 seat arena?

New 12000 arena
Still makes me wince.
 

duffer

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New 12000 arena
Still makes me wince.

For a mere £25m (I'll help BA out here, he seems to have forgotten). But the 32,000 seat Ricoh's only worth £7m, apparently.

Mind you, small places in the countryside miles from anywhere can cost a bit more than large places in the City - maybe that's how it works. ;)
 

Grendel

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We won't know the financial health of ACL or SBL or Otium until the accounts are published. Unless you are outing yourself as someone with inside knowledge of any of the firms listed.

This years accounts will tell us nothing regarding ACL's future.

You've been away for a while James. Have you been preparing the media piece around them?
 

The Gentleman

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This years accounts will tell us nothing regarding ACL's future.

You've been away for a while James. Have you been preparing the media piece around them?

Ahh, forgot you have the inside track on all things ACL don't you, are you sorting Mystic Sally?
 

Grendel

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Ahh, forgot you have the inside track on all things ACL don't you, are you sorting Mystic Sally?

Only when I'm not busy being Tim's Viagra.

Problem with Sally is she always seems to know what is coming next.
 

torchomatic

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Ahh, forgot you have the inside track on all things ACL don't you, are you sorting Mystic Sally?

I think you're mixing up your sallys and your megs.

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Grendel

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Isn't that the same same for any accounts. Unless you are Psychic Sally?

It includes the Olympics money, rent from the club and the club as a permenant resident. The situation now is very different. Put it this way they have to be positive or else.....
 

sky blue john

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A new hotel, train station all make sense for developing the conference side.
Shame Sisu's actions have alienated CCFC from benefitting from this development.
 

dongonzalos

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For a mere £25m (I'll help BA out here, he seems to have forgotten). But the 32,000 seat Ricoh's only worth £7m, apparently.

Mind you, small places in the countryside miles from anywhere can cost a bit more than large places in the City - maybe that's how it works. ;)

I thought it was more 3.5m?
 

fernandopartridge

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This site never belonged to the council. It was purchased by developers who have been dithering about exactly how they are going to do with it!

Apologies - they've allowed the demolition and the site to remain an eyesore, suppose they have limited power mind. It seems to happen a lot in Coventry.

Not that the empty tax office was anything to look at.....

I think they're going to use the site as a plant store for the Friargate work
 
This is the same council that have talked of ambitious plans to:

Build on the old post sorting office (nothing has happened)

Build on the site at the bottom of Bishop St / corner of Corporation St (nothing has happened)

Demolished the Smithfield pub and Shambles arcade for some new flats / shops in 2002 (nothing has happened)

Demolished some houses on Greyfriars Rd for a new development of flats (nothing has happened)

Demolished the fish market to build some more flats / shops (nothing has happened)

Have the 'Belgrade Plaza' development which has been half finished for 5 years or so

Therefore, I take council plans with a huge pinch of salt....
The old sorting office is a private developer and has ground to a halt as the finance is not available. Axa had hold of the land on bishop st/lamb st.They sold the offices to a local firm who have got a loan of the council to convert the blocks into student use.Private firm own the market and the vacent land.What houses on greyfriers rd, the place is all offices/Flats. The council next big project is the friarsgate, if you live in coventry you will notice it.
 

torchomatic

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Maybe the old dears who will be thrown out of the closing care homes because of the cuts can go and stop in the new hotel?

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