'Series of hotels' to be built at Ricoh Arena (21 Viewers)

[lordsummerisle]

You miss the point again.

A major issue in expanding business conference trade is lack of hotel rooms.
The rooms need to be provided to get the business first.

The fact that you can get a few rooms this week is irrelevant if there is nothing on.

You can always get a room at the NEC but they are still building a new 170 room hotel.

It's virtually impossible to get rooms at the NEC sometimes as I said yesterday.

Though can usually get them in Cov if Birmingham full, except in exceptionally rare cases when have to go as far afield as Leicester to find a room at short notice for a reasonable price.

 

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[fernandopartridge]

At the moment yes, I agree.
But if you intend to expand the corporate business then you need to increase number of rooms.
Case in point is the 2 major weekend events in March and April where I believe ALL rooms are sold out.
If this is the case then they are loosing business, both for these weekends and and other potential events that need accommodation.

The NEC hasn't built a new hall for about 15-20 years ffs

 

[Houdi]

Not sure why people are getting so hung up ,on whether there is a need for a new hotel(s) at the Ricoh Arena. The Council/ACL obviously think so, presumably based on their on going business projections. If they are right then the new hotel will flourish and make money, if they are wrong then the hotel will fail. The success or failure of which, is unlikely to be known for several years.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Not sure why people are getting so hung up ,on whether there is a need for a new hotel(s) at the Ricoh Arena. The Council/ACL obviously think so, presumably based on their on going business projections. If they are right then the new hotel will flourish and make money, if they are wrong then the hotel will fail. The success or failure of which, is unlikely to be known for several years.

Never had a problem with them building hotels on the land, just always objected to the fact that ACL seemed to think it was the responsibility of the club to do so before.

If there is a market for it, I'm sure that Hotel chains will be falling over themselves to build hotels there.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

We proved that there isnt a shortage - the NEC is far bigger and has less available rooms

'We' didn't prove anything....you uncovered one night when there were 'some' rooms available in the city (and didn't disclose what rate you would pay for a decent 4* property). Some of us in the know in the hospitalty/hotel industry, know that 4* hotels (not your Ramadas, P.Inns, Travelodges etc) are normally full in city/large town on a Mon-Weds night and potentially Thurs/Fridays when large events are on.

WM

 

[Grendel]

'We' didn't prove anything....you uncovered one night when there were 'some' rooms available in the city (and didn't disclose what rate you would pay for a decent 4* property). Some of us in the know in the hospitalty/hotel industry, know that 4* hotels (not your Ramadas, P.Inns, Travelodges etc) are normally full in city/large town on a Mon-Weds night and potentially Thurs/Fridays when large events are on.

WM

How many 4* hotels are in Coventry?

 

[ajsccfc]

I've heard good things about the Formula One hotel by the ring road. Survival rates have improved no end.

 

[fernandopartridge]

How many 4* hotels are in Coventry?

The Ramada is a 4* as is the Hilton. The Hilton has also been used by colleagues as a next resort after hotels around the city centre have been exhausted.

 

[GaryPendrysEyes]

Grendel, Torch,...This obsession with the Council and ACL ( and nothing ever about the owners) whilst pretending you are 'only interested in the club'... On and on and on.
Anyone would think you are full of shit.

 

[torchomatic]

And here comes the "like".....

Grendel, Torch,...This obsession with the Council and ACL ( and nothing ever about the owners) whilst pretending you are 'only interested in the club'... On and on and on.
Anyone would think you are full of shit.

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

How many 4* hotels are in Coventry?

Have a logged into www.laterooms.com by mistake?

Who gives a shit?

The last game at the Ricoh was played last spring. You said ACL would be unsustainable without football. They're still here. So far, you are wrong.

Now, you profess a new wisdom pertaining to the demographic wisdom of building hotels at various sites.

I think Trusthouse Forte already have people well qualified to make this judgment, without having recourse to refer to a troll on a football forum sitting as self-appointed, self-anointed judge and jury

 

[Grendel]

You miss the point again.

A major issue in expanding business conference trade is lack of hotel rooms.
The rooms need to be provided to get the business first.

The fact that you can get a few rooms this week is irrelevant if there is nothing on.

You can always get a room at the NEC but they are still building a new 170 room hotel.

When a big event like the motor show is on you can never get a room at the NEC. As already stated we had to use numerous hotels for staff and many were in Coventry.

You seem to know a lot about this. Are you an experiential manager?

 

[The Gentleman]

When a big event like the motor show is on you can never get a room at the NEC. As already stated we had to use numerous hotels for staff and many were in Coventry.

You seem to know a lot about this. Are you an experiential manager?

How many pages can you drag this non CCFC related story out to?

 

[fernandopartridge]

How many pages can you drag this non CCFC related story out to?

I'll try and get it to 45>

 

[fernandopartridge]

I'll try and get it to 45>

although I think 50 >

 

[fernandopartridge]

although I think 50 >

would be even better

 

[DaleM]

How many pages can you drag this non CCFC related story out to?

It' still got plenty left in it . Longer than Portsmouth thread ?

 

[Moff]

How many pages can you drag this non CCFC related story out to?

Said the man making post 433....

Thank goodness mines moved it on to 438.

 

[duffer]

Multi-faceted leisure amenity? I like it. Much better than community asset. However, what actually goes on there for the community apart from gambling in the casino, the gym and psychic sally? This isn't a piss-take I just wondered what "community" events took place there? After all that was part of Richardson's vision, wasn't it? A 365 facility.

It's a fair question this. It's obviously much more of a community-asset if there's a football team there, I'd say. I suppose the gym (if it's still there), and the fact that it's a half decent venue for live music on the small scale as well as the big scale is no bad thing. And it's not just Psychic Sally Torch, I've seen The Fureys there too!

And, of course, it has created jobs at the Hotel and Casino in particular. Every community needs jobs.

So on balance, I think it does offer something to the 'community'. I'm not sure it's tied into the community as much as a decent pub, or a good playground, or even a proper library maybe, (or a sodding great car factory for that matter) but I think it is still an asset to the area.

 

[italiahorse]

When a big event like the motor show is on you can never get a room at the NEC. As already stated we had to use numerous hotels for staff and many were in Coventry.

You seem to know a lot about this. Are you an experiential manager?

Lets just say I'm your superior :thinking about:

 

[Grendel]

Lets just say I'm your superior :thinking about:

That did mane me laugh -- geniunely what's your experience in conference hosting and events management?

 

[valiant15]

Multi-faceted leisure amenity? I like it. Much better than community asset. However, what actually goes on there for the community apart from gambling in the casino, the gym and psychic sally? This isn't a piss-take I just wondered what "community" events took place there? After all that was part of Richardson's vision, wasn't it? A 365 facility.

Its in Coventry.

What's it got to do with you you fucking r
eptile?

 

[italiahorse]

When a big event like the motor show is on you can never get a room at the NEC. As already stated we had to use numerous hotels for staff and many were in Coventry.

You seem to know a lot about this. Are you an experiential manager?

The 2 big weekend events at the Ricoh in March and April have advertised that all hotel rooms at the Ricoh are sold out.

Even you can deduce 2 things from this.
1. If more rooms were available they would have also been sold.
2. If a big corporate event wanted a lot of rooms it may not consider the Ricoh.

If I was a manager for ACL I would be looking at the business case for further hotels and events.

 

[italiahorse]

That did mane me laugh -- geniunely what's your experience in conference hosting and events management?

Is this an interview?

Lets just say I have organised major equestrian events at Stoneleigh, Moreton Morrell and Windsor.

How am I doing?

 

[Rusty Trombone]

If the camping and caravan club held an event there would they need to book any rooms?

 

[The Gentleman]

Said the man making post 433....

Thank goodness mines moved it on to 438.

How do you ask a question without asking a question?

 

[italiahorse]

If the camping and caravan club held an event there would they need to book any rooms?

With all the possible pitches in the Arena ?

 

[AndreasB]

As a Conference centre, hotels are usually vital - Telford International Centre has 3 of them onsite and can handle virtually anything. However, the location of the Ricoh being so central means hotels are not so important. A major retailer held a 5 day conference there recently and hardly anyone needed to stay as it is reachable from so much of the country.

Surely what we really want is a football team playing there and a Car park C full of cars.

 

[Tonylinc]

As a Conference centre, hotels are usually vital - Telford International Centre has 3 of them onsite and can handle virtually anything. However, the location of the Ricoh being so central means hotels are not so important. A major retailer held a 5 day conference there recently and hardly anyone needed to stay as it is reachable from so much of the country.

Surely what we really want is a football team playing there and a Car park C full of cars.

A football team plays at the Ricoh.........do tell me more.

 

[Grendel]

With all the possible pitches in the Arena ?

Can't they just stay in your camper van?

 

[James Smith]

Think that Alexei Sayle once said " If anybody uses the word "workshop" and they're not a carpenter, they're a twat".

Wise words.

In a previous job we were booked as a department to go and have a team building weekend in Cardiff of all places. This had farce written all over it from the start as none of us wanted to go and it just went downhill from there. Whoever in HR (and no-one owned up) booked it didn't check the sporting schedules as there was a massive rugby match on that weekend at the Millennium Stadium. So the city is heaving with drunk rugby fans to begin with, then at the very last minute the MD for the firm decides he wants to come along and they have to try and find him a room. The rest of us are out at the Holiday Inn Express because we were booked in aeons ago (and it's cheap) whereas he has to stay at the Thistle in the centre for some extortionate rate, because it was one of the few rooms left in the city.

When we were only three minutes into the first "workshop" someone yelled Bingo rather too loudly as they'd just marked off a line on their bullsh!t bingo card that we'd made. The people running the course were useless and at the start a mate who'd done a similar thing before said that when we get to the end they'll say "you need to communicate more as a department". That apparently is the normal thing for these people to say. so sure enough at 3pm on the Sunday we reached the conclusion where they presented their report on us and the first thing and pretty much the only thing they say is "you need better communication between team members and groups" whereupon there is fits of giggling and a few people shouting bullsh!t under their breath. A total waste of a weekend and - lucky for some - the MD suddenly found he had a ticket to the Rugby and only popped in at the start and end of the days.

 

[italiahorse]

Can't they just stay in your camper van?

Of course I can.

Just imagine pitching up on the Ricoh pitch and absorbing the outstanding scenery.

You've just given me an idea :thinking about:

 

[limoncello]

In a previous job we were booked as a department to go and have a team building weekend in Cardiff of all places. This had farce written all over it from the start as none of us wanted to go and it just went downhill from there. Whoever in HR (and no-one owned up) booked it didn't check the sporting schedules as there was a massive rugby match on that weekend at the Millennium Stadium. So the city is heaving with drunk rugby fans to begin with, then at the very last minute the MD for the firm decides he wants to come along and they have to try and find him a room. The rest of us are out at the Holiday Inn Express because we were booked in aeons ago (and it's cheap) whereas he has to stay at the Thistle in the centre for some extortionate rate, because it was one of the few rooms left in the city.

When we were only three minutes into the first "workshop" someone yelled Bingo rather too loudly as they'd just marked off a line on their bullsh!t bingo card that we'd made. The people running the course were useless and at the start a mate who'd done a similar thing before said that when we get to the end they'll say "you need to communicate more as a department". That apparently is the normal thing for these people to say. so sure enough at 3pm on the Sunday we reached the conclusion where they presented their report on us and the first thing and pretty much the only thing they say is "you need better communication between team members and groups" whereupon there is fits of giggling and a few people shouting bullsh!t under their breath. A total waste of a weekend and - lucky for some - the MD suddenly found he had a ticket to the Rugby and only popped in at the start and end of the days.

I wish I was you. Have you considered after-dinner speaking?

 

[James Smith]

I wish I was you. Have you considered after-dinner speaking?

No but it's a thought & probably pays better than my current job.

After dinner the MD decided to make a speech and was told (a bit too) politely not to and to shut up by our head of department because a)he was slightly pissed and b)wearing the Welsh rugby top he'd bought that afternoon.:slap:

 

[Tonylinc]

No but it's a thought & probably pays better than my current job.

After dinner the MD decided to make a speech and was told (a bit too) politely not to and to shut up by our head of department because a)he was slightly pissed and b)wearing the Welsh rugby top he'd bought that afternoon.:slap:

Your "bonding sessions", sound far better than ours!