Higgs vs CCFC Court Row (81 Viewers)

[wingy]

Air quality issues - now your talking. At last, something of interest on SBT! Let me know if you get onto impacts on water quality and other ecosystem services - that wil get my juices flowing

He should remember not to Drink the water down there ,been though someone else's Kidneys around 8 times .:thinking about:

 

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[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Did you save embarrassment by telling him you had been reading a copy of 'Readers Wives' rather than being logged in to Sky Blues talk about a Court Case

I don't think 'Readers Wives' was ever a 'special interest journal' in it's own right, was it? I remember it as a section in one of the magazines of the day - perhaps Mayfair or Knave (!?!); which would give opportunity for some casting fettler from Scunthorpe to showcase his partner's dubious acreage of milky-white, portly skin?

 

[Monners]

He should remember not to Drink the water down there ,been though someone else's Kidneys around 8 times .:thinking about:

And every litre of drinking water contains 1 mililitre of water that has passed through Hitler! I don't generally roll that particular snippet out at work though!

Nick - is this going off topic at all? :thinking about:

 

[Rob S]

Cov alert! Just mentioned the Cathedral. Apparently Basil Spence was designing Mortonhall Crematorium in Edinburgh at the same time as CC. Crem was harder.

(C'mon Simon!)

 

[sky blue john]

Are they back in court yet ?
Im missing Rob S already at least he gave us a bit of atmosphere and told us what he bought from Greggs.

 

[Rob S]

16% of mercury in atmosphere used to come from burning fillings! Ew.

 

[Monners]

16% of mercury in atmosphere used to come from burning fillings! Ew.

This is true, but it is important to acknowledge that lower atmospheric levels are still well below World Health Organisations limits.

 

[James Smith]

Were they? I've never known who actually owned the club.

Do you not remember the request that went out to the shareholders to give up their shares to Sisu for virtually nothing. I think you got a bit of paper back saying that you'd once held shares in the club as a token gesture.
Www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/fans-shares-see-coventry-city-3101799

 

[covcity4life]

Bit of a poor argument. We've never been successful full stop.

@Torch: most of us don't believe that what's good for Sisu is good for CCFC I think that's where we differ. I've always said that of they came out with clear info on how this will help the club a lot more would support them.

The fact that this info isn't forthcoming doesn't bode well.

prem is more successful than championship i would have thought.

we have to hope for better days, not just accept medicority. staying afloat is not enough, need a business model change.

 

[Grendel]

Do you not remember the request that went out to the shareholders to give up their shares to Sisu for virtually nothing. I think you got a bit of paper back saying that you'd once held shares in the club as a token gesture.

But they never gave any actual influence did they? I assume the shares were mainly held by the incumbent directors at the time.

 

[blueflint]

and you are jsut hopign and praying that we somehow become successfull whilst paying rent to the council. something that has never happened before.

what has paying rent to a council have to do with success on the pitch absolutely nothing

 

[shmmeee]

Heheh..not sure what the overlap between Sky Blue legal nerds and 'Flexible and Sustainable Learning'…

Currently Sustainability to Die For – '...the environmental and ethical issues surrounding cremation, arguably the final act of sustainability.'

I think that'll be the last report for today

I'm an education need as well! Keep up the good work!

 

[wingy]

16% of mercury in atmosphere used to come from burning fillings! Ew.

You on a jolly Rob,will they be able to string it out for two or three days?

Hows the smog down there ,apparently It's the worst ever ever ever,I guess no one remembers the smogs they had back in the 40's 50's 60's.

 

[tisza]

Were they? I've never known who actually owned the club.

I've known a fair view. Richardson was Arsenal. In fact Robbins family aside I don't remember any of them being long term city fans. Stand to be corrected.

 

[sky blue john]

prem is more successful than championship i would have thought.

we have to hope for better days, not just accept medicority. staying afloat is not enough, need a business model change.

Need new owners..

 

[Sub]

Simon Gilbert‏@TheSimonGilbert5 minsLaura Deering of Sisu in the witness stand. Sisu QC asking the questions.

 

[duffer]

Morning chaps & chapesses. Bit of a change of pace for me as I'm at an education/learning conference in London! Way from the action but at least I can use my laptop here and get wifi.

Looking forward to seeing what today's drama might be without having to sweat it out at the back of the room.

Probably more exciting than court! Thanks for all of the updates over the last two days, much appreciated.

 

[Monners]

You no a jolly Rob,will they be able to string it out for two or three days?

Hows the smog down there ,apparently It's the worst ever ever ever,I guess no one remembers the smogs they had back in the 40's 50's 60's.

That is what prompted the original Clean Air Act 1956.
Quite right about the current issue by comparison: http://www.airqualitynews.com/2014/04/02/current-high-uk-air-pollution-nothing-exceptional/

 

[Sub]

Simon Gilbert‏@TheSimonGilbert1 minThat was quick. Mr Brennan, Higgs barrister now asking the questions.

 

[spider_ricoh]

But they never gave any actual influence did they? I assume the shares were mainly held by the incumbent directors at the time.

No even the small shareholders were really chased to hand these over...there's no doubt SISU were very assiduous in getting every single certificate to the extent possible (friends of mine had repeated calls / letters to get these returned). Not a criticuism of SISU as such but they defintely went out there to get total control and confirmation of this for not very much.

 

[lordsummerisle]

No even the small shareholders were really chased to hand these over...there's no doubt SISU were very assiduous in getting every single certificate to the extent possible (friends of mine had repeated calls / letters to get these returned). Not a criticuism of SISU as such but they defintely went out there to get total control and confirmation of this for not very much.

Good old Joe.

 

[James Smith]

I've known a fair view. Richardson was Arsenal. In fact Robbins family aside I don't remember any of them being long term city fans. Stand to be corrected.

Sir Higgs was one of the major ones (did he have the most?) and Geoffrey R was another.

 

[Sub]

Simon Gilbert‏@TheSimonGilbert2 minsMs Deering confirms Sisu only continued to fund club in 2012 because they thought they could secure charity's stake in the Ricoh.

 

[James Smith]

Deering says only continued to fund club because they thought they could secure charities stake in Ricoh.

 

[wingy]

But SISU hav'nt funded the Club since April that year.

 

[dongonzalos]

Why haven't they stopped the?

They must have the same aim

 

[fernandopartridge]

No even the small shareholders were really chased to hand these over...there's no doubt SISU were very assiduous in getting every single certificate to the extent possible (friends of mine had repeated calls / letters to get these returned). Not a criticuism of SISU as such but they defintely went out there to get total control and confirmation of this for not very much.

From your old friend Joseph Elliott.

 

[AJB1983]

And when the negotiations broke down, they tried a different tactic, by withholding rent to try and send acl into admin.....

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Simon Gilbert‏@TheSimonGilbert2 minsMs Deering confirms Sisu only continued to fund club in 2012 because they thought they could secure charity's stake in the Ricoh.

They thought? So, without it, they would have closed the club - as per reports from our Joy?!?

 

[Sub]

in it for the long haul according to fisher

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

How can any self-respecting business go from:

SISU-officer Ran Ranson stating in the late summer of 2009: 'We're now one of only three clubs in the country that is debt free”

To 2012 - three years on - to SISU stating they need the Higgs share, lest they close the place?!?

 

[wingy]

And when the negotiations broke down, they tried a different tactic, by withholding rent to try and send acl into admin.....

Rent strike was already on as talks got under way rather than after talks failed IIRC.

 

[Hobo]

No, the other poster was. He was talking about the JR in his post.

No he was talking about contract law which is relevant to both cases.

You were talking about state aid which is relevant to the JR

CCC will argue because SISU broke a contract they were duty bound to protect a public asset. They did this by a process of funding which was legal.

SISU have to argue the funding was not legal. The outcome of the funding is not in question I.e it created unfair competition, if the funding itself followed the rules in place.

 

[stupot07]

How can any self-respecting business go from:

SISU-officer Ran Ranson stating in the late summer of 2009: 'We're now one of only three clubs in the country that is debt free”

To 2012 - three years on - to SISU stating they need the Higgs share, lest they close the place?!?

Because Ranson was a fool?


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[duffer]

If they needed the Higgs Share so much, why didn't they buy it then?

Instead of negotiating honestly, it seems that they decided that they could get it for less via an act of utterly reckless brinkmanship that's ended up with the club in Northampton. Such is the quality of our owners.