Eveyone's starting threads, so why not me (4 Viewers)

[Deleted member 5849]

So, suppose, say, 5,000 turn up on Saturday.

That would be only 15% of the gate against Crewe. In other words, the vast majority of fans would have chosen not to join the protest.

But... is that how it would be portrayed? Of course not. In actual fact, 5,000 would give the opportunity for lots of positive publicity, and a statement of a large mass of people.

Nobody, but nobody, would care to mention those who weren't there.... despite the fact *they* would be the majority.

And this is what a 'doing' protest achieves. You never get 100% agreement on everything but you don't need it; to strive for 100% is futile, impractical and naive. There's a balance to be found, a tipping point where sufficient numbers are enough to achieve the desired message... if it's the right type of effort.

The majority of non attenders are irrelevant in the scenario above, despite their vast numbers, and the fact it's a minority taking part. And because of that, as long as sufficient turn up, there is no need to berate those who do not.

See the point? See why active is better than passive? See how active allows a demonstration of unity and volume, beyong the mere numbers?

 

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[SkyBlueSid]

What is really relevant is that about 1500 City fans were turning up at Northampton last season. Some others were arsed enough to complain, post on forums, march here and there. But the fact is that, now the club has left Coventry, most of the fan-base has simply moved on. They have given up on it, maybe because of all the bickering.

That is the real tragedy of this farce. After years of under-achieving and mismanagement, thousands just don't care any more. I have no idea what it would take to get back to 15000 crowds now. On that basis I fear the latest protest will not be anywhere as well supported as last year's.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What is really relevant is that about 1500 City fans were turning up at Northampton last season. Some others were arsed enough to complain, post on forums, march here and there. But the fact is that, now the club has left Coventry, most of the fan-base has simply moved on. They have given up on it, maybe because of all the bickering.

That is the real tragedy of this farce. After years of under-achieving and mismanagement, thousands just don't care any more. I have no idea what it would take to get back to 15000 crowds now. On that basis I fear the latest protest will not be anywhere as well supported as last year's.

Real football, real fans.





As long as the fixtures get fulfilled, of course.

 

[fernandopartridge]

What is really relevant is that about 1500 City fans were turning up at Northampton last season. Some others were arsed enough to complain, post on forums, march here and there. But the fact is that, now the club has left Coventry, most of the fan-base has simply moved on. They have given up on it, maybe because of all the bickering.

That is the real tragedy of this farce. After years of under-achieving and mismanagement, thousands just don't care any more. I have no idea what it would take to get back to 15000 crowds now. On that basis I fear the latest protest will not be anywhere as well supported as last year's.

No. The relevance is that the opposition to playing out of Cov isn't really demonstrated by physical evidence.

You could count empty seats but it doesn't show the common ground between those who won't go Sixfields.

 

[Otis]

So, suppose, say, 5,000 turn up on Saturday.

That would be only 15% of the gate against Crewe. In other words, the vast majority of fans would have chosen not to join the protest.

But... is that how it would be portrayed? Of course not. In actual fact, 5,000 would give the opportunity for lots of positive publicity, and a statement of a large mass of people.

Nobody, but nobody, would care to mention those who weren't there.... despite the fact *they* would be the majority.

And this is what a 'doing' protest achieves. You never get 100% agreement on everything but you don't need it; to strive for 100% is futile, impractical and naive. There's a balance to be found, a tipping point where sufficient numbers are enough to achieve the desired message... if it's the right type of effort.

The majority of non attenders are irrelevant in the scenario above, despite their vast numbers, and the fact it's a minority taking part. And because of that, as long as sufficient turn up, there is no need to berate those who do not.

See the point? See why active is better than passive? See how active allows a demonstration of unity and volume, beyong the mere numbers?

Fair points, NW.

Obviously going to a march and going to watch the team in Northampton are two completely different things. If Saturday was City playing say a friendly at the Ricoh then I dare say there could well be 15,000 there.

 

[TheOldFive]

I wonder if Nuneaton thought about hiring the Ricoh for the upcoming friendly? That would have been a Wee Stoater.

 

[rob9872]

So, suppose, say, 5,000 turn up on Saturday.

That would be only 15% of the gate against Crewe. In other words, the vast majority of fans would have chosen not to join the protest.

But... is that how it would be portrayed? Of course not. In actual fact, 5,000 would give the opportunity for lots of positive publicity, and a statement of a large mass of people.

Nobody, but nobody, would care to mention those who weren't there.... despite the fact *they* would be the majority.

And this is what a 'doing' protest achieves. You never get 100% agreement on everything but you don't need it; to strive for 100% is futile, impractical and naive. There's a balance to be found, a tipping point where sufficient numbers are enough to achieve the desired message... if it's the right type of effort.

The majority of non attenders are irrelevant in the scenario above, despite their vast numbers, and the fact it's a minority taking part. And because of that, as long as sufficient turn up, there is no need to berate those who do not.

See the point? See why active is better than passive? See how active allows a demonstration of unity and volume, beyong the mere numbers?

you're a complete c**t

 

[covmark]

you're a complete c**t

Ironic really, considering you're the biggest c**t on this forum.

 

[The Gentleman]

Ironic really, considering you're the biggest c**t on this forum.

In the words of Harry Hill 'FIGHT'

 

[Otis]

There's an awful lot of bile and hatred flying round here these days.

Surely we can all disagree with each other without having to get nasty can't we?

 

[torchomatic]

Er....no. And it doesn't have to be "nasty" either.

Surely we can all disagree with each other without having to get nasty can't we?

 

[rob9872]

Ironic really, considering you're the biggest c**t on this forum.

quite possibly I am but when no wisdom and torchpathetic remark on every post unprovoked a little has to go back. No idea who you are nomark, not sure of your beef with me but I guess I'll sleep ok. Torchpathetic, thanks for liking me being the biggest c**t on that post. Love you too sweetie xx

 

[The Gentleman]

quite possibly I am but when no wisdom and torchpathetic remark on every post unprovoked a little has to go back. No idea who you are nomark, not sure of your beef with me but I guess I'll sleep ok. Torchpathetic, thanks for liking me being the biggest c**t on that post. Love you too sweetie xx

If nothing else the like is for those names, quality.

 

[Moff]

If nothing else the like is for those names, quality.

You honestly think 'nomark' is quality? :thinking about:

 

[The Gentleman]

You honestly think 'nomark' is quality? :thinking about:

Yes because I was the first one to use it,silly.

 

[Moff]

Yes because I was the first one to use it,silly.

Hells bells

 

[The Gentleman]

Hells bells

Is Helen Chamberlain on this forum too......

 

[covmark]

Yes because I was the first one to use it,silly.

Sky blue kid beat you to it I'm afraid. Sorry to disappoint you.

 

[The Gentleman]

Sky blue kid beat you to it I'm afraid. Sorry to disappoint you.

But I patented it so all royalties come to me......Nomark

 

[_brian_]

This is all very rich coming from The Mentalman*!!! LOL!

(*I've renamed The Gentleman in a derogatory way, but I'd just like to apologise as I don't really think he's mental - or necessarily a man, he might be a woman; can never tell over the internet (we've all been there! LOL!) - I just wanted to get involved in the banter!!!)

 

[The Gentleman]

This is all very rich coming from The Mentalman*!!! LOL!

(*I've renamed The Gentleman in a derogatory way, but I'd just like to apologise as I don't really think he's mental - or necessarily a man, he might be a woman; can never tell over the internet (we've all been there! LOL!) - I just wanted to get involved in the banter!!!)

There are some that I know that would probably use that name for me.

 

[turlykerd]

This is all very rich coming from The Mentalman*!!! LOL!

(*I've renamed The Gentleman in a derogatory way, but I'd just like to apologise as I don't really think he's mental - or necessarily a man, he might be a woman; can never tell over the internet (we've all been there! LOL!) - I just wanted to get involved in the banter!!!)

i was called "turkey" by spoinkop the other day it was so upsetting, i nearly jumped off a roof

then i realised it was the first time i had been called a "name" on SBT and i felt like i belonged

 

[Deleted member 5849]

i was called "turkey" by spoinkop the other day it was so upsetting, i nearly jumped off a roof

then i realised it was the first time i had been called a "name" on SBT and i felt like i belonged

You only really make it when someone starts a thread about you.

(wince did, btw )

 

[turlykerd]

You only really make it when someone starts a thread about you.

(wince did, btw )

why ?? has there been a thread started about you ?? hahaha , thats funny

 

[mark82]

There's an awful lot of bile and hatred flying round here these days.

Surely we can all disagree with each other without having to get nasty can't we?

Spoils it doesn't it?

 

[turlykerd]

There's an awful lot of bile and hatred flying round here these days.

Surely we can all disagree with each other without having to get nasty can't we?

replies like"your a complete c**t" when someone has just expressed a view or given an idea is, in my opinion, completely out of order

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Yeah.. . But you are a complete c**t.

.....see what I did there? . .

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

I should clarify that was an attempt at humour but may not appear so if read some time later. ?
I've been drinking and im on a android so cant be arsed to work out how to edit or delete it. ? ? Why am I telling you this. ? Oh, yeah, ive been drinking. Come on holland you lovely orange weed smoking edam exporting cyclists
. ? ?

 

[wingy]

Great ball by Schnieder,heavy touch by Robben .Kapput.


edit wrong thread.

 

[Covstu]

I should clarify that was an attempt at humour but may not appear so if read some time later. ?
I've been drinking and im on a android so cant be arsed to work out how to edit or delete it. ? ? Why am I telling you this. ? Oh, yeah, ive been drinking. Come on holland you lovely orange weed smoking edam exporting cyclists
. ? ?

crazy fool!!!!

 

[turlykerd]

Yeah.. . But you are a complete c**t.

.....see what I did there? . .

You dont need to explain it if your *being funny



Obviously its in the context that's offensive



*trying

 

[turlykerd]

I should clarify that was an attempt at humour but may not appear so if read some time later. ?
I've been drinking and im on a android so cant be arsed to work out how to edit or delete it. ? ? Why am I telling you this. ? Oh, yeah, ive been drinking. Come on holland you lovely orange weed smoking edam exporting cyclists
. ? ?

And ... Fuck You fucking drunk c**t !