16,000 where were you? (8 Viewers)

[letsallsingtogether]

But who has said they will spend the money on players haven't done that up to now.

I care for all the reason's Otis has put forward. More fans more cash, better players, more desirable to potential owners, promotion, sisu fuck off...


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[Otis]

But who has said they will spend the money on players haven't done that up to now.

When you are financially more viable, you are much less likely to have to sell your best players.

At the moment we always have to sell our best players.

 

[Astute]

But who has said they will spend the money on players haven't done that up to now.

They have spent on wages. For this to be a good excuse the other clubs must have players playing for free.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

I think we need to stop commenting on games like Crewe and gillingham as "showing the potential" as these fans only come when it's a cheap big tie.

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So should we just accept that the best we can be is a yo-yo L1/championship club with 8-12k or should we aspire to be more and be looking at different options to how we can get those fans coming in more regularly?

 

[Astute]

When you are financially more viable, you are much less likely to have to sell your best players.

At the moment we always have to sell our best players.

They will be in the shit at the end of this season then. Most of our players are loans or on a one year contract.

 

[wingy]

Like It or not the Club have got to Compete for their time and money ,that's reality.

They need a better strategy than that currently employed ,we're the best people to employ In that role ,they need to engage us ,firstly they need to get systems and Pricing In order,we need to be encouraging ,not lambasting .

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Most of Those extras were man Utd, liverpool, etc fans that live round here getting off their sofa's to watch their favourite club..


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It was part of it, but you can't honestly tell me that City fans aren't more attracted to the more glamourous games? I know that I was when I was a kid-I wasn't interested in Luton and Palace like I was Liverpool and Man U. And my dad was always more inclined to take me to a game against more interesting opponents-have you never heard the phrase "people pick and choose their games"? It's the same locally-I'm more likely to go and see Leamington playing against Stockport or Boston than I am against Chorley or Solihull. You're paying to see the opposition as well, y'see...like the Newcastle game a few years ago, you just had to admire the way Owen stuck his goal away. You don't see that every week in The Championship and League 1.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

But they need the money for their new stadium!!! So can't afford new players as well?
Except the ones that are free and on less then Grendel earns in a year.

When you are financially more viable, you are much less likely to have to sell your best players.

At the moment we always have to sell our best players.

 

[Kingokings204]

It was part of it, but you can't honestly tell me that City fans aren't more attracted to the more glamourous games? I know that I was when I was a kid-I wasn't interested in Luton and Palace like I was Liverpool and Man U. And my dad was always more inclined to take me to a game against more interesting opponents-have you never heard the phrase "people pick and choose their games"? It's the same locally-I'm more likely to go and see Leamington playing against Stockport or Boston than I am against Chorley or Solihull. You're paying to see the opposition as well, y'see...like the Newcastle game a few years ago, you just had to admire the way Owen stuck his goal away. You don't see that every week in The Championship and League 1.

Nick won't like this post (joking)

I want to but this man a pint. Speaks 100% truth. I don't see why people don't get this.

People are more likely to turn up for Chelsea for £20 than yeovil for £22. When you actually think about it it's really simple.

 

[Otis]

They will be in the shit at the end of this season then. Most of our players are loans or on a one year contract.

That's the downside of the loan system.

If you have lots of loan players taking for first team spots regularly then other players who are your own aren't getting the chance to show what they can do on the big stage.

Luckily, or unluckily for us, we have Ryan Haynes, Aaron Philips, Jordan Willis, Conor Thomas, John Fleck,and Jordan Clarke,who all could be sold if they shine enough and then gather interest.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I see the 'Coventry is poor' argument rearing its head. Not true of course. The average wage in Coventry compares pretty well against most other cities. Coventry North West has the highest average (higher than Warwick and Leamington) albeit based on 2011 figures.

 

[Otis]

I see the 'Coventry is poor' argument rearing its head. Not true of course. The average wage in Coventry compares pretty well against most other cities. Coventry North West has the highest average (higher than Warwick and Leamington) albeit based on 2011 figures.

For some it seems, Coventry is poor when we are playing the likes of Yeovil.

 

[wingy]

I see the 'Coventry is poor' argument rearing its head. Not true of course. The average wage in Coventry compares pretty well against most other cities. Coventry North West has the highest average (higher than Warwick and Leamington) albeit based on 2011 figures.

Maybe the issue is we're not that attractive to the middle Classes when It comes to entertainment choices .

A heck of a lot of our fans are In the silver to no hair generations ,most would have been introduced by a Factory working Parent.

It would be nice to see the clubs database and work out the demographics ,especially around age .

 

[Joelly]

I was born in Nottinghm and I am now in Sheffield at university.

Have very little money to spend on not just tickets, but also travel.

Usually go to about 10/11 games year.. 8 home 3 away or something along those lines.

Sorry for not being a real fan.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Who you calling bald.:thinking about:

Maybe the issue is we're not that attractive to the middle Classes when It comes to entertainment choices .

A heck of a lot of our fans are In the silver to no hair generations ,most would have been introduced by a Factory working Parent.

It would be nice to see the clubs database and work out the demographics ,especially around age .

 

[Otis]

I was born in Nottinghm and I am now in Sheffield at university.

Have very little money to spend on not just tickets, but also travel.

Usually go to about 10/11 games year.. 8 home 3 away or something along those lines.

Sorry for not being a real fan.

No-one's said you're not a real fan.

All people are syaing (ad nauseum) is that there should have been much more than 11,000 there yesterday based on all the factors.

 

[Joelly]

No-one's said you're not a real fan.

All people are syaing (ad nauseum) is that there should have been much more than 11,000 there yesterday based on all the factors.

No matter what I always feel bad though. Id love more than anything to have been there on saturday, and at every other game.

 

[wingy]

Guy I work with currently spent £27 quid on a Lee Mack ticket for Friday night .

Started 15 mins late @ 8.15 ,warm up act did 35mins ,then a half hour break ,then Lee mack did 1.10 hrs.

 

[Otis]

Guy I work with currently spent £27 quid on a Lee Mack ticket for Friday night .

Started 15 mins late @ 8.15 ,warm up act did 35mins ,then a half hour break ,then Lee mack did 1.10 hrs.

And was he as funny as when we see Marcus Tudgay trying to run through treacle?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Guy I work with currently spent £27 quid on a Lee Mack ticket for Friday night .

Started 15 mins late @ 8.15 ,warm up act did 35mins ,then a half hour break ,then Lee mack did 1.10 hrs.

I find comparisons with other sorts of entertainment a bit odd really. Then again I assume that most people buy tickets to matches as supporters rather than customers. Is that naive?

 

[wingy]

And was he as funny as when we see Marcus Tudgay trying to run through treacle?

Apparently not particularly ,no surprise to me really ,the guy said the members of the audience Mack interacted with were thick, again no surprise as they were Brummies, much like himself .

 

[Kingokings204]

I find comparisons with other sorts of entertainment a bit odd really. Then again I assume that most people buy tickets to matches as supporters rather than customers. Is that naive?

Supporters are customers and customers are supporters.

So us all being ccfc supporters but when some had real issues with getting tickets sorted in the last few weeks then that doesn't help bringing back customers.

 

[Hobo]

No-one's said you're not a real fan.

All people are syaing (ad nauseum) is that there should have been much more than 11,000 there yesterday based on all the factors.

No, but certain people on here make out he isn't with their bullshit comments. Nick waded in yesterday with a few comments about the attendance and he wasn't even there. Now I know he had good reason, but Christ, he wasn't the only one with other commitments!

Joelly, it sounds to me like you are a pretty good fan. You go home and away when you can afford it...what more can we ask?

Lets face it Grendel say he earns 100k, also admits he rarely goes away. Balance those factors out and I think Joelly is more committed!

 

[Nick]

No, but certain people on here make out he isn't with their bullshit comments. Nick waded in yesterday with a few comments about the attendance and he wasn't even there. Now I know he had good reason, but Christ, he wasn't the only one with other commitments!

Joelly, it sounds to me like you are a pretty good fan. You go home and away when you can afford it...what more can we ask?

Lets face it Grendel say he earns 100k, also admits he rarely goes away. Balance those factors out and I think Joelly is more committed!

Yep, I can totally understand people really can't afford it or were working and you can't fault though can you? But what about the rest? I take my hat off to everybody who goes home and away when the situation permit, I can bet they won't just go to the Gillingham game though.

The same as I can bet I will be sat there in January if I am not working in the cold against poor opposition because it is watching my team The same as people who stood on the hill in freezing weather, who will go to as many as the situation permits. I only get annoyed with the ones who went against Gills and clearly aren't bothered about going back until we play Chelsea or Crewe in the JPT.

 

[Hobo]

Yep, I can totally understand people really can't afford it or were working and you can't fault though can you? But what about the rest? I take my hat off to everybody who goes home and away when the situation permit, I can bet they won't just go to the Gillingham game though.

Nick, Coventry is a very poor city......it has been decreasingly so since the 1980's

 

[Hobo]

Did anyone really think them fans from last Friday would go back? People who weren't even cov fans went just to say they went

I doubt whether you would recognise a Cov fan if you were stood next to one. I have been one of 100 at Old Trafford, never complained about the ones not there, never complained about the fans that rocked up for Crewe either!
PUSBs

 

[Seaside-Skyblue]

Would have thought an online / paper survey would help the club identify why people aren't or cannot go.

 

[Nick]

Nick, Coventry is a very poor city......it has been decreasingly so since the 1980's

It didn't look that poor when shed loads of people were paying £4.50 for a bottle / can of cheap beer against Gillingham.

 

[Nick]

I doubt whether you would recognise a Cov fan if you were stood next to one. I have been one of 100 at Old Trafford, never complained about the ones not there, never complained about the fans that rocked up for Crewe either!
PUSBs

I guess you would if you knew some of the people to know who they support.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

I totally agree with you.
I will be there rain or shine book holidays off work(when I'm working) just to go to the match.

What Pissis me off is that some on here Like to make out it is only Coventry people that do this??

unfortunately it isn't they need to take a look at themselves and look for the reason that they hate everything Coventry bar the team.

Yep, I can totally understand people really can't afford it or were working and you can't fault though can you? But what about the rest? I take my hat off to everybody who goes home and away when the situation permit, I can bet they won't just go to the Gillingham game though.

The same as I can bet I will be sat there in January if I am not working in the cold against poor opposition because it is watching my team The same as people who stood on the hill in freezing weather, who will go to as many as the situation permits. I only get annoyed with the ones who went against Gills and clearly aren't bothered about going back until we play Chelsea or Crewe in the JPT.

 

[Nick]

I totally agree with you.
I will be there rain or shine book holidays off work(when I'm working) just to go to the match.

What Pissis me off is that some on here Like to make out it is only Coventry people that do this??

unfortunately it isn't they need to take a look at themselves and look for the reason that they hate everything Coventry bar the team.

Of course it isn't just Coventry people but would have thought as we were moved away more would be gagging to get back to see the team play now The amount of outrage when we were moved and now we are back it is like "ah ok we are back now".

Of course people will be working, of course people will have family commitments and only the very hardcore will run their lives 100% around football.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Yes but they were the same ones that were there on Saturday.
It is the same people every week.

Like I said before the 10 kids that were in our row on Friday were not here Saturday wonder why?

Middle of the month parents maybe can't afford 2 games in a row?
didn't want to come as they all support Chelsea who knows?

It didn't look that poor when shed loads of people were paying £4.50 for a bottle / can of cheap beer against Gillingham.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Nick,
How many went on the march?
How many went on the Hill?
How many went into Sixfields?

Add them all up and you may get 10,000 so most of them were probably at the game..

Of course it isn't just Coventry people but would have thought as we were moved away more would be gagging to get back to see the team play now The amount of outrage when we were moved and now we are back it is like "ah ok we are back now".

Of course people will be working, of course people will have family commitments and only the very hardcore will run their lives 100% around football.

 

[The Gentleman]

I totally agree with you.
I will be there rain or shine book holidays off work(when I'm working) just to go to the match.

What Pissis me off is that some on here Like to make out it is only Coventry people that do this??

unfortunately it isn't they need to take a look at themselves and look for the reason that they hate everything Coventry bar the team.

Spot on, Fans across the country are the same whether you are Coventry, Chelsea or Scunthorpe

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Nick,
How many went on the march?
How many went on the Hill?
How many went into Sixfields?[

Add them all up and you may get 10,000 so most of them were probably at the game..

Worrying though isn't it, that we can't keep the casually interested interested for more than one game; especially as they'll care less about the politics and be more keen on getting a good experience for their cash.

And that they got against Gillingham.

So then if a good experience doesn't get any more, then we're into uncomfortable territory about what can actually be done - and do you even bother trying or just try and squeeze those for as much cash as possible, who'll come regardless?

And it's not against those with other commitments. I was always going to go to Yeovil just to pre-empt the 'you only turned up for Gillingham' line but, dare I say it, so far it's been... fun. So as long as it stays that way, I'll keep going.

And you'd expect a bigger proportion of those in against Gillingham to think the same, surely?

That's all, nothing more, nothing less, no considerably better fan than yow bollox.

But... a fear that come January it'll be you, me, Nick, Otis and Grendel sharing a mug of Bovril with no other bugger in the ground!