Would you now back a new ground? (3 Viewers)

Limey

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For a milli second run with the idea that sisus plan for a new 20k ground right on the edge of the city is possible...
In or out?
 

ccfc92

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Out.

Purely because I don't see where the extra 342 day revenue will come from that they bleat on about?

A poxy 15-20K stadium with no motorway links, conference, hotel facilities. Plus a £20-30 million cost, that I imagine CCFC will be paying? Or will our beloved owners gift it to the club?

Now, there is a state of the art stadium, with all the listed above included, that could have been bought for £20 million apparently... :thinking about:
 

ccfc92

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On another note, people moan about where the Ricoh is, and use that as an excuse not to go.

So a stadium outside the city, probably harder to get to, that will increase gates, yes?
 
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For a milli second run with the idea that sisus plan for a new 20k ground right on the edge of the city is possible...
In or out?

If I believed it was a reality, I've never been against the idea.

They haven't exactly busted a gut to persuade me anything close top what you describe will happen though, have they...
 

Otis

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For a milli second run with the idea that sisus plan for a new 20k ground right on the edge of the city is possible...
In or out?


No. Out.

We haven't trusted them over anything pretty much for the duration of their tenure, so why trust them over building a new stadium?
 
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What will the Pro's be NW?

If it was real...

What's wrong with a ground around Warwick Uni, say, owned by the club, having the club's identity not just plastered on with the odd plastic sign and sky blue seat, but actually being part of what *is* the club?

As I said though, our owners aren't exactly likely to come up with that, are they...
 

ccfc92

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If it was real...

What's wrong with a ground around Warwick Uni, say, owned by the club, having the club's identity not just plastered on with the odd plastic sign and sky blue seat, but actually being part of what *is* the club?

As I said though, our owners aren't exactly likely to come up with that, are they...

I meant financially, not emotionally :) nothing wrong with a ground that has the clubs identity :)
 

Rusty Trombone

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Say you could buy the land, pay for the build and all the associated fees, for £25m. Say you could find someone to lend you the money at 4%.

The interest on this would be £1m per year, and that's without paying any of the £25m off.

This is the minimum figure as I think it would cost more to build, and the interest would be higher.

It will kill the club.

We need to agree a rental deal, with some access to match day revenue, at the Ricoh.
 

Limey

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If it was real...

What's wrong with a ground around Warwick Uni, say, owned by the club, having the club's identity not just plastered on with the odd plastic sign and sky blue seat, but actually being part of what *is* the club?

As I said though, our owners aren't exactly likely to come up with that, are they...

That small paragraph is better than anything I've heard from the mouths of our owners. At this moment in time, that sounds a highly tempting proposition...
 

ccfc92

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Say you could buy the land, pay for the build and all the associated fees, for £25m. Say you could find someone to lend you the money at 4%.

The interest on this would be £1m per year, and that's without paying any of the £25m off.

This is the minimum figure as I think it would cost more to build, and the interest would be higher.

It will kill the club.

We need to agree a rental deal, with some access to match day revenue, at the Ricoh.

Don't forget to take the sell outs every other week, buying 10 pies each, out of that equation :whistle:Plus the 342 concerts held there at £100 each when CCFC aren't playing :)
 

Otis

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Say you could buy the land, pay for the build and all the associated fees, for £25m. Say you could find someone to lend you the money at 4%.

The interest on this would be £1m per year, and that's without paying any of the £25m off.

This is the minimum figure as I think it would cost more to build, and the interest would be higher.

It will kill the club.

We need to agree a rental deal, with some access to match day revenue, at the Ricoh.


I think a new ground could kill the club too. I also think it would be an incredible burden on the club whilst in development. Even if money is found from investors for the stadium itself, there are still many other associated costs involved.

A new stadium will just increase the financial burden on the club and indeed could all but kill us.
 

ccfc92

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Think it was Godiva who came up with the only rational financial reason why.

Alas I can't remember what it was ;)

Ah :) I'm sorry, but I just don't see a financial advantage of a new stadium (outside the city).

The cost of building, plus interest on loans, reduced attendance (if outside the city), the lack of pies sold :whistle:, lack of business/conference/concerts etc for the rest of 342 day out 365....
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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I think a new ground could kill the club too. I also think it would be an incredible burden on the club whilst in development. Even if money is found from investors for the stadium itself, there are still many other associated costs involved.

A new stadium will just increase the financial burden on the club and indeed all but kill us.

Yea because the club has thrived financially whilst at the Ricoh
 
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That small paragraph is better than anything I've heard from the mouths of our owners. At this moment in time, that sounds a highly tempting proposition...

The emotional investment isn't likely though, is it... let's be honest.

if it was, we'd have heard long ago where the bloody thing was going to be, for a start!
 

Otis

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Yea because the club has thrived financially whilst at the Ricoh


It hasn't.

Is it wise to increase the financial burden to get returns god knows how many years into the future?

How many years would it be before we could seriously make it pay?
 

ccfc92

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It hasn't.

Is it wise to increase the financial burden to get returns god knows how many years into the future?

How many years would it be before we could seriously make it pay?

When Jordan Clarke fires us to the premiership with his 60 goals in 2 seasons of course!
 

chiefdave

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My stance hasn't changed really. If SISU can give a credible business case for a new ground and demonstrate how it will create a sustainable successful club I'd be happy to support it. Obviously dependent on location. Don't think I'm going to get that though. They could have done that when they first started on about the new ground, doesn't' need any sensitive information to be revealed.
 

Rusty Trombone

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If you had the ability to acquire a chunk of land, and you had enough money to build things on it, the only sensible thing to do would be to build houses to sell, not a football stadium.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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No no no Sisu had their chance and fucked it right up. I bet Joys got the legals looking at it right now over the Higgs sale. I hope the wasps owner can eventually buy CCFC and unite both teams under the same ownership model.
 

ccfc92

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My stance hasn't changed really. If SISU can give a credible business case for a new ground and demonstrate how it will create a sustainable successful club I'd be happy to support it. Obviously dependent on location. Don't think I'm going to get that though. They could have done that when they first started on about the new ground, doesn't' need any sensitive information to be revealed.

Will you buy 10 pies for yourself after paying £25 to get in tho, plus travelling costs, is the question though?
 

Limey

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No no no Sisu had their chance and fucked it right up. I bet Joys got the legals looking at it right now over the Higgs sale. I hope the wasps owner can eventually buy CCFC and unite both teams under the same ownership model.

Probably the best scenario if we are to stay at the Ricoh. Has the owner got any interest in football though? Unless the wasps franchise bombs dramatically with 5k gates.
 

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