Coventry City FC giant crests may be moved at Ricoh as Wasps make mark on stadium (1 Viewer)

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

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Mobile-friendly - 26 Sep 2013 - Coventry City's owner Joy Seppala says she is willing to talk ... club needs 100 per cent ownership of the freehold of the Ricoh. .... remaining at Coventry City,

Coventry City Council is willing to consider bids for the Ricoh Arena and the surrounding land, the authority's leader has confirmed.
Councillor Ann Lucas said the council would listen to "reasonable and sensible offers" for the freehold but stressed the site would not be sold "unencumbered".
She also said it is time to consider a future for the Ricoh without a football team.
Jan 2014

In a Telegraph front page three days before, the club had called on Coun Lucas to clarify whether the council was prepared to discuss a freehold sale, based on independent valuations.

If not, the club said it would press ahead with plans to build a new stadium in Warwickshire, after groundsharing in Northampton for up to five years.


Les Reid
Ann Lucas says she's willing to talk to 'any sensible legitimate business person with any offer to make'

Coun Ann Lucas
Coventry council leader Ann Lucas says she is still willing to talk about selling the Ricoh Arena to anyone willing to make an offer.

If only Lucas hadn't used the word "sensible".

 

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[letsallsingtogether]

If only Lucas hadn't used the word "sensible".

Or Talk?

Or Offer?

 

[italiahorse]

Have also heard from a good source that the home dressing room has been repainted in Wasps colours with the away dressing room Sky Blue as Coventry will be using this going forwards. In effect our opponents will have the more comfortable and state of the art dressing room. You couldn't make it up

You just have if you offer no proof.

Both dressing rooms are used on match day so why would the home football team move into the smaller dressing room and the away team have the big one.
Somethings not right here so come back when you find out what actually is happening.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

You just have if you offer no proof.

Both dressing rooms are used on match day so why would the home football team move into the smaller dressing room and the away team have the big one.
Somethings not right here so come back when you find out what actually is happening.

Wasps are having the larger dressing room permanently,CCFC smaller one both in their own colours no one else will use them and a new away dressing romm will be built using two unused offices

 

[tuousis]

I say its WASPS stadium,they will save Tim having to pay for them to be removed to his make believe fairy tale stadium.
Just take them down and leave the on Tims doorstep.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I think a lot of it is about investment in building up the area around the arena, SISU never made any commitment, question is, did they say they would before they bought the club then fail to deliver?
As I understand it Wasps plan to build a training facility in the area, maybe more. This is very important for the council, they aim to increase employment, that is what a lot of this fall out has been about in my opinion.

Yes I'd imagine a huge increase in employment arising from a Rugby training facility

 

[ccfc1234]

It's happening we are loosing a great stadium to a franchise. Sad day and however much I like the Ricoh with the casino, train station on its way etc i will not enjoy being playing in the stadium of a plastic team (wasps).

i hope the city of coventry and the surrounding area reject wasps and they are financially distressed in the near future. Guess we will have to see how that goes but I urge all ccfc fans not to pop along as every penny in wasps pockets, supports franchise sport and also does ccfc no favours.

 

[TheParsonsHose]

So what about the seats then because it makes no sense having Sky Blues spelt with the seats?. Perhaps too expensive to change the colour but could see the dark blue seats moving about to create something else.


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[Neutral Fan]

It's happening we are loosing a great stadium to a franchise. Sad day and however much I like the Ricoh with the casino, train station on its way etc i will not enjoy being playing in the stadium of a plastic team (wasps).

i hope the city of coventry and the surrounding area reject wasps and they are financially distressed in the near future. Guess we will have to see how that goes but I urge all ccfc fans not to pop along as every penny in wasps pockets, supports franchise sport and also does ccfc no favours.

I totally agree with all that. I'm still amazed CCFC fans protested the (temporary) franchise of their team to Northampton by taking 7,000 to the match v MK Franchise. Still perhaps that was just niavety back then. Since then , for whatever reason, Coventry has become central to ''franchised sports clubs'' with the long term future of CCFC still in considerable doubt. And indeed RFC Coventry.

Hopefully CCFC fans will not attend Wasps franchise or indeed MK Franchise. It's the only way ordinary supporters can protest this increasing cancer in sport.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

It's happening we are loosing a great stadium to a franchise. Sad day and however much I like the Ricoh with the casino, train station on its way etc i will not enjoy being playing in the stadium of a plastic team (wasps).

i hope the city of coventry and the surrounding area reject wasps and they are financially distressed in the near future. Guess we will have to see how that goes but I urge all ccfc fans not to pop along as every penny in wasps pockets, supports franchise sport and also does ccfc no favours.

The best thing for us would be for the Ricoh to be empty every week for Wasps match, I doubt they can survive on only 1-2k traveling up from London every week(if that many)

Sadly I think after the initial few matches they will still scrape 5-6k (Which will still look even more pathetic than our crowds) which is about there current levels now. I urge not only CCFC fans but everyone from the city to not contribute a penny to Wasps.

 

[Gazolba]

The two Sky Blues badges - ...... - relocated elsewhere on the outside of the stadium.

Near the toilets?

 

[Gazolba]

This the one? I barely remember this

That's just half a wasp. Would be a neat strip if the black hoops went all the way down. Even better would be yellow and black stripes. That way we'd only look like wasps when we fell down.

 

[Otis]

Surely taking the signs down is a good thing? Well to Sisu, fisher, ccfc, and a few on here... Fisher will want them for his own stadium won't he?
If he says they are only staying short term why would he want, or any one expect them to stay? And why would they want or keep blue seats? It's wasps ground, yes Higgs and CCC sold it to them and why are people Moaning??? Fisher told us years ago they were leaving and building their own stadium!
If a council house you lived in is sold because you didn't want it, do you still have a right to say what wallpaper in on the walls? One groups fault... Sisu!

I don't get what all the fuss is abut. Did we or did we not say we are not staying at the Ricoh? We have consistently and constantly let every man and his dog know that we have no intention of staying.

If the club are not prepared to stay and try and negotiate and somehow find some kind of partnership here, then Wasps have every reason to wipe all our identity from the prominent positions at the stadium. So they are fully justified in changing the bar name and in removing our plaques and also if they want to change all the colour of the seats too.

According to Tim we are not staying, so I just do not see what the fuss is all about.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

What would be the difference if Wasps put there badge in another place on the outside? Presumably where they plan to move ours to, is it because there not as viewable from far away?

Feels they are doing it just because they can, to show who's the boss. Despite there claims that they want a good relationship with the club.

The problem is as I stated before they could do what the hell they like with the Ricoh because it's their's, they've purchased it, I would love to see the badge kept in the same place, but if that's the most prominent view point then they're going to stick a big insect there, not much we can do about it, as long as the artists impressions are accurate and whereby the Clubs badge is still on the Ricoh but in a different location and still prominent then it makes no odds.

This will be the beginning of it all, seats will change colour, bar names have already changed, the carpets and walls will change colour, there will be more Wasps' historical photos around the Ground, etc. We are going to have to get used it.



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[ecky]

Ha ha comedian can't wait to get out? And go where? Back to Northampton, or the new mystery stadium?

 

[martcov]

I don't get what all the fuss is abut. Did we or did we not say we are not staying at the Ricoh? We have consistently and constantly let every man and his dog know that we have no intention of staying.

If the club are not prepared to stay and try and negotiate and somehow find some kind of partnership here, then Wasps have every reason to wipe all our identity from the prominent positions at the stadium. So they are fully justified in changing the bar name and in removing our plaques and also if they want to change all the colour of the seats too.

According to Tim we are not staying, so I just do not see what the fuss is all about.

Exactly. Wasps worked on a deal. Got what they wanted. Then announced they were moving. No problem. The fuss should be about why we say we are moving when we have nowhere to move to. We cannot be surprised if Wasps are getting on with their stadium. Our anger should be directed at the amateurs who have got absolutely nowhere with our stadium ( be it the P.i.t.S. Stadium or an offer for the Ricoh - now obsolete ).

 

[Kingokings204]

The problem is as I stated before they could do what the hell they like with the Ricoh because it's their's, they've purchased it, I would love to see the badge kept in the same place, but if that's the most prominent view point then they're going to stick a big insect there, not much we can do about it, as long as the artists impressions are accurate and whereby the Clubs badge is still on the Ricoh but in a different location and still prominent then it makes no odds.

This will be the beginning of it all, seats will change colour, bar names have already changed, the carpets and walls will change colour, there will be more Wasps' historical photos around the Ground, etc. We are going to have to get used it.



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Do you think we will move out now Robo? New stadium or rent elsewhere?

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Coventry City FC giant crests may be moved at Ricoh as Wasps make mark on sta...

Do you think we will move out now Robo? New stadium or rent elsewhere?

It's a good question KOK, but what options are available to us, realistically? The Club says it wants to build a new Stadium but 18 Months on there is no progress, we can't rent elsewhere, we have barely any Fanbase whatsoever designating ourselves from our Fanbase would just be asking for a demise..

Probably the only thing to do would be a rolling 5 year rent deal at the Ricoh, whereby the Club can negotiate with Wasps to benefit from the Matchday revenues it generates, from the bars in the Concourse, Casino, etc.

With respect to a new Stadium I wouldn't be against one, but it would have to be in Coventry, more central to the City and suitable to our needs as a Club, a Ground on the outskirts or in Nuneaton, with a capacity of 11,000 and with barely no attraction is going to be useless.. I can't say that the Club have done enough to convince anyone that there is a new Stadium on it's way, but allegedly the Club are "Close" and have been for about 12 months on land..

We will see...


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[skybluelee]

I'm still amazed CCFC fans protested the (temporary) franchise of their team to Northampton by taking 7,000 to the match v MK Franchise. Still perhaps that was just niavety back then. QUOTE]

Bore off you broken record.

MK was about an away ground that was close by that has a huge away end that City fans could attend and have a good day out, few beers etc, and remember what it was like when we used to have a proper team.

For exactly the same reasons we took big followings to Wolves, Walsall and Notts County. I went and couldn't give a fuck about MK Dons or indeed any of the other 90 clubs in the football league.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

did they say they would before they bought the club then fail to deliver?

Not really. The council were never really for the SISU bid, nor the other that was about at the time.

City council leader Ken Taylor revealed that two other "derisory" bids had been received from two other firms.

One, called Sisu, had offered £15million.

The other was from a firm called Shapiro, which offered £26million but wanted the club to pay off its debts and the city council to give it a longer lease on the Ricoh Arena and some spare land to the north of the site.

Points to note:

1 ) Sisu weren't the only game in town;
2) A longer lease wasn't an option back then, it seems.

 

[Kingokings204]

It's a good question KOK, but what options are available to us, realistically? The Club says it wants to build a new Stadium but 18 Months on there is no progress, we can't rent elsewhere, we have barely any Fanbase whatsoever designating ourselves from our Fanbase would just be asking for a demise..

Probably the only thing to do would be a rolling 5 year rent deal at the Ricoh, whereby the Club can negotiate with Wasps to benefit from the Matchday revenues it generates, from the bars in the Concourse, Casino, etc.

With respect to a new Stadium I wouldn't be against one, but it would have to be in Coventry, more central to the City and suitable to our needs as a Club, a Ground on the outskirts or in Nuneaton, with a capacity of 11,000 and with barely no attraction is going to be useless.. I can't say that the Club have done enough to convince anyone that there is a new Stadium on it's way, but allegedly the Club are "Close" and have been for about 12 months on land..

We will see...


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That's a top post Robo and I agree with every word to be honest. I would like a new stadium but within Coventry as Nuneaton or such like would be as your rightly said useless.

The owners have done nothing to convince us on a new stadium and land or whatever really. Renting elsewhere you alienate what fan base you have and you are still tennants just further away like sixfields I guess.

Only possible way forward as I currently see it is to get a cheap rental deal as pos and negotiate on revenues and income as I certainly believe wasps would rather we are there than not. That has got to be true.

 

[skybluetony176]

www.coventrytelegraph.net/.../coventry-c...
Mobile-friendly - 26 Sep 2013 - Coventry City's owner Joy Seppala says she is willing to talk ... club needs 100 per cent ownership of the freehold of the Ricoh. .. .. remaining at Coventry City,

Coventry City Council is willing to consider bids for the Ricoh Arena and the surrounding land, the authority's leader has confirmed.
Councillor Ann Lucas said the council would listen to "reasonable and sensible offers" for the freehold but stressed the site would not be sold "unencumbered".
She also said it is time to consider a future for the Ricoh without a football team.
Jan 2014

In a Telegraph front page three days before, the club had called on Coun Lucas to clarify whether the council was prepared to discuss a freehold sale, based on independent valuations.

If not, the club said it would press ahead with plans to build a new stadium in Warwickshire, after groundsharing in Northampton for up to five years.


Les Reid
Ann Lucas says she's willing to talk to 'any sensible legitimate business person with any offer to make'

Coun Ann Lucas
Coventry council leader Ann Lucas says she is still willing to talk about selling the Ricoh Arena to anyone willing to make an offer.

I still say SISU are entitled to a commission on the Ricoh sale. They worked harder than any estate agent I've ever used in making its availabilty known to the entire world. I'm not suprised another show turned up in town.

 

[SydneySkyBlue]

Coventry City FC giant crests may be moved at Ricoh as Wasps make mark on sta...

Yeah pretty much. It is all the bullshit emotional crap that makes it worse from the council.

At least with SISU you know what you are getting don't you? With the council they come across like they are going to take you out, buy you dinner, do the best for you, look after you, marry you and then they just give you a quicky outside the sky dome and then they are bastards after all these promises. They don't even buy you a woo woo. SISU are like Cavemen "oi love, fancy a quicky".

Not really. As you can see from don's CovTel article, the Council made it clear that they will have to move on if the club doesn't want to cooperate. The club doesn't cooperate, the council moves on.

On the face of it, there's only one party that's good for their word here.

 

[Noggin]

Yeah pretty much. It is all the bullshit emotional crap that makes it worse from the council.

At least with SISU you know what you are getting don't you? With the council they come across like they are going to take you out, buy you dinner, do the best for you, look after you, marry you and then they just give you a quicky outside the sky dome and then they are bastards after all these promises. They don't even buy you a woo woo. SISU are like Cavemen "oi love, fancy a quicky".

wow I can't believe you wrote this.

we know what we are getting with sisu now because we've learnt, but we've had years and years of lies, misrepresentations and plenty of the bullshit emotional crap, they are constantly promising the world while stabbing us in the back. They have been telling us for years about them building this club for the future while behind the scenes digging out the foundations so it all falls down.

Hell they are building us a new stadium so we can get all the revenues we need to be a premiership club again because of how mean the council have been to us and how we couldn't survive under a large rent agreement, now we've got a great manager, and a system in place to bring youth through and we are cash flow positive, we've got one of the biggest budgets in the league, so things are looking bright for the future. At least they are honest with us hey and deliver on their promises.

wow.

 

[Nick]

Not really. As you can see from don's CovTel article, the Council made it clear that they will have to move on if the club doesn't want to cooperate. The club doesn't cooperate, the council moves on.

On the face of it, there's only one party that's good for their word here.

So why all the emotional crap? They didn't need to sell did they?

 

[torchomatic]

"We need to rebuild trust before talking about any ownership"

Fair enough if Wasps want to do that, it's theirs now after all. Could do without all "ha, ha, ha" attitude from certain posters though.

So why all the emotional crap? They didn't need to sell did they?

 

[SydneySkyBlue]

Coventry City FC giant crests may be moved at Ricoh as Wasps make mark on sta...

So why all the emotional crap? They didn't need to sell did they?

I'm not sure what emotional crap you're talking about. Of course they would have preferred that the football club play in the stadium, they are the city's council and the stadium was after all built for the football club.

SISU made that impossible though so accepting Wasps offer was the right thing to do from a business perspective.

And for the city I might add.

 

[martcov]

So why all the emotional crap? They didn't need to sell did they?

According to Grendel, when councils get involved in businesses, they always fail. I tend to agree with Grendel on this and think CCC did the right thing by getting out of ACL. In other words, they had to sell.

 

[Sky Blue Dal]

It was the council who sold it to Wasps.

agree .. because it was looking like our beloved owners weren't prepared to pay it.

What is happening with the stadium bloody hurts me as a CCFC fan as much as everyone else BUT we all have to accept that our owners blew it big time and put the Ricoh into the Wasps hands by leaving the stadium for Sixfields. in a huff and puff hence helping accelerate the Wasp take over.

Haven't been here for a few weeks... So any news on the new stadium???

 

[torchomatic]

Which is kinda funny as we've paid more in rent since we've been there than Wasps have paid up front.

agree .. because it was looking like our beloved owners weren't prepared to pay it.

 

[Philosoraptor]

Which is kinda funny as we've paid more in rent since we've been there than Wasps have paid up front.

Torch, this does needle me as well.

 

[Ian1779]

Which is kinda funny as we've paid more in rent since we've been there than Wasps have paid up front.

We were signed up to the 'Radio Rentals' deal of all time. Pay £65m over the term of the lease and at the end you get fuck all for it.

 

[torchomatic]

Not even a washing machine.

We were signed up to the 'Radio Rentals' deal of all time. Pay £65m over the term of the lease and at the end you get fuck all for it.

 

[covcity4life]

coun cil sc um

 

[Ashdown]

We were signed up to the 'Radio Rentals' deal of all time. Pay £65m over the term of the lease and at the end you get fuck all for it.

Who would possibly put pen to paper on that and were they personally benefitting from the overall deal ???