SkyBlue_Bear83
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tbf though they didn't even try to prevent it
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tbf though they didn't even try to prevent it
Don't bring irrelevancies into the thread about the shop stock, fact lead time to obtain orders 20 to 30 weeks!
The club is in profit for the first time in many, many years thanks to the fact the rent is now sustainable and we are being run prudently, just for a change.
Nick
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I'll get hounded and slated for this, but if you have had so many meetings with fans like you keep tweeting and this is the outcome then it is shocking. If you have consortiums waiting to buy like you also say then get them to come out with their plans for the club, how are they going to be better than SISU? How can we get SISU out and hand over to these great new people? I am pretty sure you will have a lot more people behind it, I know I would be.
By doing what? Sacking Andy Thorn I presume because there was NO other reason that side should have been relegated that season. We were inept and capitulated in too many important games. Nowt to do with Sisu or failure to "invest in the team"
SkyBlueSid
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Correct! Most people realised even at the start of that season that we were absolute certs for relegation with a woeful squad, a useless manager and no investment. It was painful watching us plough onwards through the season to the inevitable conclusion and drop with barely a whimper.
Gosford Green
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SISU constantly insist on all possible revenue streams. I take my youngest up to get a shirt just before Christmas and the place was almost empty, SISU are supposed to be business savvy but can not even manage to stock a small retail unit. *
*Excluding Leicester City seconds.
*Excluding Leicester City seconds.
Forecasts would have been based on us still playing at Sixfields and last seasons turnover.
Things changed suddenly on our return to Ricoh, lead time for newly placed orders 20 to 30 weeks! Check it out.
shy_tall_knight
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How do you know the club is profitable ?, can't rely on what SISU say such as land purchases etc.., cash positive is not necessarily profitable if it is based on player sales which are not reinvested. And this low rent won't be a factor when we move to a new stadium because if with your grasp of finances you will understand that the interest costs on a £20m loan will be close to our old rental payments but with a much smaller number of fans to support it.
I work in logistics and are fully familiar how the garments sector works with certain retailers copying designs from the Paris catwalks to having the product produced and in the shops within 6 weeks, the club shop is a shambles and demonstrable evidence of their ineffectiveness at running a club.
blueflint
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Nick
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The thing is though, nearly all of the SISU haters who will no doubt be behind (by behind I mean backing) this will say "Coventry City can just rent, they dont need revenue 365 and the beer money etc" but then come out and say "Wasps had to move, they needed the revenue of owning a stadium".
Although I fully agree with you about not having stock, thats a schoolboy error.
bradwellskyblues
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yes wasps needed a revenue as well big difference is they were happy to negotiate and do a deal not use back handed tactics
lordsummerisle
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Think that was left to the council and Higgs.
Nick
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But CCFC don't need the revenues?
As soon as people just turn the question around things start to get a bit tricky. I don't doubt Wasps may be better negotiators, but did they need it to survive or not? If so, why don't CCFC?
If Wasps HAD to move to survive and that is ok, would it be OK for CCFC to move to survive?
I don't think people really think things through before making statements.
SkyblueBazza
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SkyBlue_Bear83
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Rubbish, we played a lot of the season with Mcdonald, Platt as our two main strikers who were barely L1 standard. Two 17/18 year olds in Bigirimana and Thomas were first team regulars in the midfield and an 18 year old Christie at full back.
Not to mention Baker, Bell, Hussey, Mcsheffrey all played a lot of games who all clearly were below championship standard at the time.
We'd let a host of players go that preseason and replaced them with Murphy, Dunn and Mcdonald. Got in a few loans come January but it wasn't enough, not to mention as you say we had Andy Thorn as manager as well.
Nick
Administrator
We also used to regularly take the lead and lose it because the manager didn't know how to change things...
Nick
Administrator
Don't joke about it, the whole "majority" and "minority" thing will start being thrown about again.
Let's not forget the "majority" welcomed SISU here, the "majority" thought Thorn was a great manager, the "majority" want wasps here...
covcity4life
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why are wasps fans protesting against sisu?
Nick
Administrator
Because they want to move CCFC outside of the Coventry Boundaries...
I think with all those players you just mentioned, you have fucked up your own argument there.
Covcraig@bury
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"buy a fucking watch " !!!
SkyBlue_Bear83
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I'm not saying the manager was any good but anyone who thinks he had a good squad or even an average squad is off their head.
Forgot other quality players like Deegan, O'Donovan, Mcpake who played a decent number of games that season as well.
Nick
Administrator
Yeah, that sort of attitude of comment makes it very easy for somebody to just walk in and join in without knowing much about it. Did you go to PR school with SISU?
Nick
Administrator
I'm by no means saying we should have been promoted, I don't think with a good manager we would have been relegated though. It was the fact we often took the lead and then you could see miles off that we were going to lose the lead and the game.
covcity4life
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little c-units on twitter using #allezwasps with a cov city logo in their avatar
SkyBlue_Bear83
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I don't think I have chap, whose fault was it we had Bigirimana and Thomas running our championship midfield that year? Do you think that was a tactical decision by the manager or the fact we had no one else due to a lack of funds available?
Nick
Administrator
Is that the same 2 players that people shouted about being sold off because they were great by the same people moaning about us having them in midfield to get us relegated?
Nick
Administrator
While protesting about ccfc being moved, the irony really is lost....
covcity4life
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its ridiculous isn't it?!
SkyBlue_Bear83
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A better manager would have certainly performed better, kept us up? Possibly. Any manager which kept us up though would have been overachieving with the squad at his disposal (assuming he used the same players and didn't sign different possibly better players)