Is Dave Hockaday going to be our next manager? (8 Viewers)

[Grendel]

How about Director of Sisu comms?

They will need to give him some admin role as that 40 year contract he signed will be expensive to pay off...

I would guess there is some form of get out related to a league position at a given point in the season.

Hence this latest appointment.

 

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[AFCCOVENTRY]

I'm sure there is but unfortunately just like Thorn it is probably based on a relegation clause.

 

[FRY-CCFC]

Rumours at Villa were that they could sack him with limited compensation when they dropped into the relegation zone which is why they waited so long. Could be the same for us.

 

[ecky]

Sepala, Fisher and Waggott have not released a statement on the perilous position of ccfc and pressleys role as manager..

Either they must be happy with what's going on or they don't give a toss?

 

[hill83]

If Jose mourinho came here tomorrow would results improve next game to Sheffield away? No same shit players.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Why hire hockaday?

No idea but many things they do make me scratch my head, I would have thought somebody in the club could have looked after the u21's as they must train with the first team. If he gets the managers job it is because he is a puppet of the other puppets (it must be like one of those Russian dolls)

 

[Deleted member 5849]

No idea but many things they do make me scratch my head, I would have thought somebody in the club could have looked after the u21's as they must train with the first team.

One of our coaches left, he was the replacement.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

One of our coaches left, he was the replacement.

If only that rule applied with contracted players!

 

[covboy1987]

He brought in his own trialist (Left back Stokes) and Marcus Tudgay praising him in the Telegraph today, is this a sign of things to come and from Sisu's point of view he is cheap!!

Done some research on Dave Hockaday - he has managed two clubs - make your own observations

Forest Green Rovers
His first season as manager ended with relegation from the Conference Premier.[SUP][15][/SUP] However, Forest Green were reinstated following Salisbury City's failure in their appeal against demotion from the Conference for financial irregularities. Despite the team finishing in a relegation position and coming under fire from a number of the clubs fans, Hockaday was offered a new one-year contract for the 2010–11 season.[SUP][16][/SUP] In his second season as Forest Green boss the team narrowly avoided relegation to the Conference South the team lost their final day fixture, a 2–1 loss away at Tamworth, but stayed in the league on goal difference.[SUP][17][/SUP]
In his third season as Forest Green manager the club finished the season in 10th place. Hockaday's fourth season as manager of the club again ended with another 10th place finish in the Conference Premier despite reportedly having the largest transfer and wage budget in the division
Leeds United
On 28 August 2014, Hockaday and assistant Junior Lewis were sacked by owner Massimo Cellino, having been in the job for only 70 days.

 

[The Lurker]

Done some research on Dave Hockaday - he has managed two clubs - make your own observations

Forest Green Rovers
His first season as manager ended with relegation from the Conference Premier.[SUP][15][/SUP] However, Forest Green were reinstated following Salisbury City's failure in their appeal against demotion from the Conference for financial irregularities. Despite the team finishing in a relegation position and coming under fire from a number of the clubs fans, Hockaday was offered a new one-year contract for the 2010–11 season.[SUP][16][/SUP] In his second season as Forest Green boss the team narrowly avoided relegation to the Conference South the team lost their final day fixture, a 2–1 loss away at Tamworth, but stayed in the league on goal difference.[SUP][17][/SUP]
In his third season as Forest Green manager the club finished the season in 10th place. Hockaday's fourth season as manager of the club again ended with another 10th place finish in the Conference Premier despite reportedly having the largest transfer and wage budget in the division
Leeds United
On 28 August 2014, Hockaday and assistant Junior Lewis were sacked by owner Massimo Cellino, having been in the job for only 70 days.

All the above is my concern regarding hockaday as I stated in other threads. He should NOT replace Pressley. It'll be worse. Yes Pressley isn't the right man but nor is hockaday

 

[CovLis86]

Hockaday would be a cheap option and nothing else. Hopeless record. The owners need to bite the bullet and pay to bring someone in, not another cast off. Start by looking at Richard Money and realising they should never have got rid in first place.

 

[rupert_bear]

Here we go Hockaday not even manager and if he ever will be some have him as a disaster waiting to happen. Had a small spell as the top man at Leeds who incidently have done little better since he left by the way. Should it happen and something needs to and soon then judge

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Leeds United have an owner who is banned from the club and we have owners we wish would be banned from the club.

We need a manager with plenty of experience in this league or lower somebody like Danny Wilson (but not Wilson himself somebody like that).

 

[covboy1987]

Here we go Hockaday not even manager and if he ever will be some have him as a disaster waiting to happen. Had a small spell as the top man at Leeds who incidently have done little better since he left by the way. Should it happen and something needs to and soon then judge

In my opinion its investment and direction we need not a new manager

 

[Grendel]

In my opinion its investment and direction we need not a new manager

No Pressley is really not up to the job and will take the club down.

Investment and direction would require an ownership change. New owners first change of direction would be showing him the door.

I am now convinced this club will go down if he stays. That's a disaster. We kept Strachan and thorn when they were also clearly taking the club down.

Hockaday may re energise until the end of the season. He may keep us up. The Leeds experience can't be judged he won 2 and lost 4 and Leeds are on a downward spiral.

I would take the gamble. At least he is in place. It took forever to replace thorn - we need an instant change now.

 

[The Lurker]

No Pressley is really not up to the job and will take the club down.

Investment and direction would require an ownership change. New owners first change of direction would be showing him the door.

I am now convinced this club will go down if he stays. That's a disaster. We kept Strachan and thorn when they were also clearly taking the club down.

Hockaday may re energise until the end of the season. He may keep us up. The Leeds experience can't be judged he won 2 and lost 4 and Leeds are on a downward spiral.

I would take the gamble. At least he is in place. It took forever to replace thorn - we need an instant change now.

Hockaday will be another andy thorn!

 

[Grendel]

Hockaday will be another andy thorn!

That's what people said about John Sillett.

Also it's until the end of the season. Boothroyd had alienated the squad and just removing him would clearly save the club. Even if they stuck a tub of lard with zero IQ it would have been positive.

Actually that's what they did - sadly they gave into fan pressure and gave it a contract.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

If we're looking at realistic options I've been impressed with the work Dean Smith and Lee Johnson have done at Walsall and Oldham. I don't know as much about L2 but I like Ainsworth and Wycombe and Tisdale at Exeter.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

No Pressley is really not up to the job and will take the club down.

Investment and direction would require an ownership change. New owners first change of direction would be showing him the door.

I am now convinced this club will go down if he stays. That's a disaster. We kept Strachan and thorn when they were also clearly taking the club down.

Hockaday may re energise until the end of the season. He may keep us up. The Leeds experience can't be judged he won 2 and lost 4 and Leeds are on a downward spiral.

I would take the gamble. At least he is in place. It took forever to replace thorn - we need an instant change now.

Well Hockaday would certainly take up the caretaker role initially, if he does okish he could be appointed as an interim manger until the summer when we can then get in a long term replacement.

 

[The Lurker]

That's what people said about John Sillett.

Also it's until the end of the season. Boothroyd had alienated the squad and just removing him would clearly save the club. Even if they stuck a tub of lard with zero IQ it would have been positive.

Actually that's what they did - sadly they gave into fan pressure and gave it a contract.

Did they? Fuck me, they must have predicted the future then! Sure thorn was playing when sillett was manager lol

Hockaday who got forest green technically relegated in the conference with the highest wage bill. Yes what a masterstroke that would be. Jesus wept

 

[Hobo]

Surely it is a case of one coach departs and another is brought in. Are people desperately trying to read to much into the situation?

 

[Grendel]

Did they? Fuck me, they must have predicted the future then! Sure thorn was playing when sillett was manager lol

Hockaday who got forest green technically relegated in the conference with the highest wage bill. Yes what a masterstroke that would be. Jesus wept

Sillett had failed at Hereford and was ridiculed as a cheap option when appointed.

Do you know who John Sillett is?

 

[The Lurker]

Sillett had failed at Hereford and was ridiculed as a cheap option when appointed.

Do you know who John Sillett is?

Can you not read? I said hockaday will be another andy thorn and you said that's what they said about sillett.

Were Hereford a non league team with the highest budget of there league and techniqually relegated? Becareful what you wish for!

 

[Hobo]

Sillett had failed at Hereford and was ridiculed as a cheap option when appointed.

Do you know who John Sillett is?

Sillet failed at Hereford? So winning the 3rd Division and getting promoted to Division 2 was failure? I think you'll find it is their best achievement. Okay they came back down but he put a trophy in the cabinet. Hardly complete failure?

 

[covboy1987]

Can you not read? I said hockaday will be another andy thorn and you said that's what they said about sillett.

Were Hereford a non league team with the highest budget of there league and techniqually relegated? Becareful what you wish for!

We all have a soft spot for John Sillett and he certainly was not a failure at Hereford as there history tells you - in fact he was the manager that guided Hereford to promotion to the 2nd division there highest ever league placing
the official stats below also show that he was Herefords most successful manager on win ratio - its all very close but sillett comes out on top best win ratio

Graham Turner	1995–2009, 2010								33.17
John Newman	1983–1987								38.35
John Sillett	1974–1978, 1991–1992								38.73
Colin Addison	(1971)–1974, 1990–1991								34.06

 

[Grendel]

Sillet failed at Hereford? So winning the 3rd Division and getting promoted to Division 2 was failure? I think you'll find it is their best achievement. Okay they came back down but he put a trophy in the cabinet. Hardly complete failure?

So Sillett's appointing was welcomed was it?

 

[Grendel]

We all have a soft spot for John Sillett and he certainly was not a failure at Hereford as there history tells you - in fact he was the manager that guided Hereford to promotion to the 2nd division there highest ever league placing
the official stats below also show that he was Herefords most successful manager on win ratio - its all very close but sillett comes out on top best win ratio

Graham Turner	1995–2009, 2010								33.17
John Newman	1983–1987								38.35
John Sillett	1974–1978, 1991–1992								38.73
Colin Addison	(1971)–1974, 1990–1991								34.06

Yes I'm sure you, the lurker and hobo would be leaping with joy of we recruited a manager who had not actually managed for 8 years and the last managerial experience was relegation from a league 2 leagues below where we sat - oh and that club was relegated the season he left as well. Yes I'm sure you'd be delighted.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Weren't around at that time so can't say but it sounds as if Sillet wasn't a complete failure at Hereford but he was also hardly an exciting appointment.

It sounds like the equivalent now of a premier league club appointing someone like Gary Johnson after he was sacked at Yeovil after achieving great success with them.

 

[steveecov]

We all have a soft spot for John Sillett and he certainly was not a failure at Hereford as there history tells you - in fact he was the manager that guided Hereford to promotion to the 2nd division there highest ever league placing
the official stats below also show that he was Herefords most successful manager on win ratio - its all very close but sillett comes out on top best win ratio

Graham Turner	1995–2009, 2010								33.17
John Newman	1983–1987								38.35
John Sillett	1974–1978, 1991–1992								38.73
Colin Addison	(1971)–1974, 1990–1991								34.06

I'd be more concerned about the similarity to HEREFORD and US than SILLETT and PRESLEY

 

[The Lurker]

Yes I'm sure you, the lurker and hobo would be leaping with joy of we recruited a manager who had not actually managed for 8 years and the last managerial experience was relegation from a league 2 leagues below where we sat - oh and that club was relegated the season he left as well. Yes I'm sure you'd be delighted.

I was 4 in 87 so wouldn't have an inkling what was occurring. I know 95% of the fans wouldn't be enthralled with hockaday as manager under any other circumstances. But that's how desperate we have become

 

[rupert_bear]

George Curtis was manager when we won the cup, John Sillett became manager when George gave up the manager post the next season.

 

[Hobo]

Yes I'm sure you, the lurker and hobo would be leaping with joy of we recruited a manager who had not actually managed for 8 years and the last managerial experience was relegation from a league 2 leagues below where we sat - oh and that club was relegated the season he left as well. Yes I'm sure you'd be delighted.

But surely he was recruited for what he was doing at City, not what he had done 8 yrs before. Plus he was teamed up with Curtis and it proved successful. You conveniently overlook the fact he got them promoted as Champions. Have they ever achieved more Hereford? As usual you come on here with half baked theories, dig a hole for yourself, then try and twist what other people say round.

At the end of the day you never know what you are going to get when you sign or appoint anybody. Remember Man Utd fans didn't think success at Aberdeen was pedigree enough for Man United....time told a different story!

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

At the end of the day you never know what you are going to get when you sign or appoint anybody.


Isn't that what he is saying? He's defending the possible appointment of Hockaday against those writing him off as crap by using Silletts success here as an example.

 

[The Lurker]

At the end of the day you never know what you are going to get when you sign or appoint anybody.


Isn't that what he is saying? He's defending the possible appointment of Hockaday against those writing him off as crap by using Silletts success here as an example.

FFS - look at hockaday record. Does that inspire a revival? Doesn't for me. But hey you and Grendel love sticking up for sisu so no surprise there

 

[Hobo]

At the end of the day you never know what you are going to get when you sign or appoint anybody.


Isn't that what he is saying? He's defending the possible appointment of Hockaday against those writing him off as crap by using Silletts success here as an example.

No he is trying to rubbish Sillets reputation when he achieved promotion as champions when he was at Hereford, saying his tenure was a complete flop when it wasn't.