Match Thread Walsall vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 8th Dec (1 Viewer)

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steve82

steve82

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Not optimistic of the win at all, a draw is the likely outcome for me.

Andy Cook I was really impressed with in the Cup game, a old fashioned striker who created gaps for others giving Hyam and Willis a difficult afternoon.

He’s pivotal to Walsall’s build up play so he needs close attention


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itsabuzzard

itsabuzzard

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shmmeee said:
Why not? Who does it harm?
I like it personally for two reasons:

- I’m a data geek so I like mathematical modes and I like football and this is a mathematical model of football, and the fact I don’t quite get it makes it interesting
- It’s now SBT transition and a match thread wouldn’t be the same without it
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Well said.

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Otis

Otis

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shmmeee said:
Why not? Who does it harm?
I like it personally for two reasons:

- I’m a data geek so I like mathematical modes and I like football and this is a mathematical model of football, and the fact I don’t quite get it makes it interesting
- It’s now SBT transition and a match thread wouldn’t be the same without it
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That's a nonsense, Shmmeee.

None of us understand Brexit either, but you don't see any of us keep banging on about that every week.
 
CanadianCCFC

CanadianCCFC

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
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Sterling*----Willis----Davies---Brown
Thomas----Doyle---Bayliss---Hiwula
---------------Baka------JCH

I think one of the CB's won't be fit, so Hyam will probably play. Also Grimmer if Sterling isn't ready.
I'm keeping Doyle in as we've had a good rest from our last game and I'm treating it as last chance for Bayliss and Hiwula to impress before getting dropped.
Chaplin dropped to the bench for a game just to see how he reacts - will it spur him on or will he sulk?

I'll go for 1-1.
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Are you mad?
 
skybluegod

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shmmeee said:
Why not? Who does it harm?
I like it personally for two reasons:

- I’m a data geek so I like mathematical modes and I like football and this is a mathematical model of football, and the fact I don’t quite get it makes it interesting
- It’s now SBT transition and a match thread wouldn’t be the same without it
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As i said genuine question, I wasn't having a go... I didn't say it harmed anyone so that's an odd comment?

I was asking because I hadn't seen anyone respond without confusion, but if you like it then fair enough, you are the only one i have seen!
A SBT transition? What are we transitioning to? ;)
 
Sky Blue Harry H

Sky Blue Harry H

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Can't remember who, but didn't some manager base his tactics around a statistician who showed that as most goals were scored from one area of the pitch (i.e the final third - don't laugh), that manager then insisted in the long ball all the time, i.e. getting the ball in the final third. Apologies for such a poor description, somebody with a better memory and more eloquence, will explain it better!

Edit: do I win an award from itsabuzzard for the longest, worst punctuated paragraph?
 
Gibbo

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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Can't remember who, but didn't some manager base his tactics around a statistician who showed that as most goals were scored from one area of the pitch (i.e the final third - don't laugh), that manager then insisted in the long ball all the time, i.e. getting the ball in the final third. Apologies for such a poor description, somebody with a better memory and more eloquence, will explain it better!

Edit: do I win an award from itsabuzzard for the longest, worst punctuated paragraph?
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It might have been a man called Charles Hughes who was the leading FA coach in the late 50's early 60's iirc
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Gibbo said:
It might have been a man called Charles Hughes who was the leading FA coach in the late 50's early 60's iirc
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it was.
POMO - position of maximum opportunity. Which basically meant lumping it forward to a couple of units.
The last English man to win the league, Howard Wilkinson, was a massive exponent of his philosophies.
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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Big Sam is also a massive statistician, apparently his methods are a lot more complex than they seem.

Anyway, for this game please play Tom Davies, we need our best players on the pitch and the effect he has on set pieces warrants his inclusion alone.
 
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Cranfield Sky Blue

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
--------------------Burge
Sterling*----Willis----Davies---Brown
Thomas----Doyle---Bayliss---Hiwula
---------------Baka------JCH

I think one of the CB's won't be fit, so Hyam will probably play. Also Grimmer if Sterling isn't ready.
I'm keeping Doyle in as we've had a good rest from our last game and I'm treating it as last chance for Bayliss and Hiwula to impress before getting dropped.
Chaplin dropped to the bench for a game just to see how he reacts - will it spur him on or will he sulk?

I'll go for 1-1.
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I like the look of that team! MR won’t drop Chaplin, surely?
 
lord_garrincha

lord_garrincha

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John Beck was one of the long ball dinosaurs too... then the last of that breed at Prem level was Aidy Boothroyd.

It shocks me how he is with the England Under 21s now!
 
Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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The optimistic side of me thinks we’ll win this game. We were the better side in the cup game and hopefully changes made will be positive and we get a good result. A draw wouldn’t be shabby at all.
 
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CV22SBA

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Back to winning ways I feel. We were by far the better team in the cup without our best 11, still can’t believe we lost that game.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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CanadianCCFC said:
Are you mad?
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Possibly.

It's really easy during a good run to just come on and say "as you were". Harder during a bad spell because you feel something needs to change, but what exactly? Should you keep on persevering with the same team as they did well a few weeks ago? After all, stability breeds success supposedly (but wrongly).

I could've taken Bayliss out for Kelly, but we've seen so little of him recently will he be able to last the 90 mins? Should've I have put him in to start with the intention of subbing him for Bayliss?

Hiwula could've been taken out, but who for? Shipley? Bring Mason in as a LM? In the end I just went for Hiwula for the ex-player thing. Hardly a scientific reason but there we have it.

Something had to change up front and if I went Chaplin/Baka there's no strong presence holding the ball up, but with JCH you never know if he's going to either. After the misses last week it just seems that Chaplin can't complain about being rested and with Baka again there's the old club thing.

Having said that, and in reply to Cranfield, I can't see MR dropping Chaplin.
 
itsabuzzard

itsabuzzard

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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Can't remember who, but didn't some manager base his tactics around a statistician who showed that as most goals were scored from one area of the pitch (i.e the final third - don't laugh), that manager then insisted in the long ball all the time, i.e. getting the ball in the final third. Apologies for such a poor description, somebody with a better memory and more eloquence, will explain it better!

Edit: do I win an award from itsabuzzard for the longest, worst punctuated paragraph?
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It's a good length, as they say. Punctuation's fine.

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Nick

Nick

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itsabuzzard said:
It's a good length, as they say. Punctuation's fine.

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What is a good length?

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shmmeee

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skybluegod said:
As i said genuine question, I wasn't having a go... I didn't say it harmed anyone so that's an odd comment?

I was asking because I hadn't seen anyone respond without confusion, but if you like it then fair enough, you are the only one i have seen!
A SBT transition? What are we transitioning to? ;)
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We’re all stunning and brave trans women now.

Didn’t mean to sound if I was having a go. Just sticking up for our resident geek :D
 
Nick

Nick

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I have no idea what he is talking about but it makes sense to him and he is harmless.
 
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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Well my head tells me it's going to be a defeat and possibly quite ugly atmosphere up there.....but i'll go positive and say 2-1 City via a Bakayoko late show.

Hopefully we can get ourselves out of this little rut we've found ourselves in, if we could just be more clinical around the box we'll be fine. I'd like to see Doyle rotated out for a bit, even if just to see if Ogogo or Kelly can realistically play a part for us or not.
 
Philosorapter

Philosorapter

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All we need to do is to win more matches whllst losing less matches and we will start to climb again.

100 rating points climb from now till the end of the season would be a great target.

I think seeing how everything Is evening itself out, a rating of 1620 ish should be enough for a top six finish or there abouts.

We've already hit 1586 this season. A few more points is definitely doable and plenty of time to get them in.

It's consistency when having a high rating is the problem, a loss will knock you down a lot of points. It's not just about picking yourself up and going at it again, but the speed you can do this in.

You will hit a rating ceiling. It's all about trying to push back this boundary and keep moving forward or trying to keep as close as possible to the rating ceiling.
 
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RegTheDonk

RegTheDonk

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Extended break should give more time to get people fit and more practice at free kicks. Physical game, so I reckon we'll get a few chances from set plays. Local derby and our away following will do us proud. Bouncing back with a win, get us back on track. 1-3.
 
Nick

Nick

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It will be interesting to see how he sets us up. He said today about us learning our lessons while still being able to create chances so it sounded a bit defense minded.

I wonder if he will make a change in midfield to make us a bit more defensive, Shipley for Hiwula or Kelly coming back in maybe?

Chaplin and JCH will probably start.
 
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