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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    he discussed how the parliaments should handle Brexit with his counterpart. If he is trying to stop a no deal, he is in line with UK parliament who he represents. They passed the Benn bill. We have a rogue PM who does not speak for the majority of the country according to the polls. The majority...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Just thought I’d but in with a report from S&P which gives of a costing of the state of play so far: https://amp.businessinsider.com/price-of-brexit-66-billion-recession-2019-4?__twitter_impression=true
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Wrong. I would be happy enough if there was a NI only backstop, my rights and EU citizens rights in the UK were put into law, and the money ratified. We could then move forward, get a deal and then have a vote on the deal v remain. Is the deal better than remain?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They are trying to have an EU wide minimum wage based on a percentage of average wage. As countries have different wage levels, it can only be done as a percentage. In Germany it is 9,19€ at present and 9,35€ from 01. January.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Joke being that the EU is against some forms of state intervention to ensure a level playing field for companies. But G doesn’t like the evil EU.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It may also be that no one trusts that liar BoJo with his fellow rulers, Rees Mogg, the scum of the world of snobs and the unelected Rasputin type Cummings. As for amusing politicians, BoJo is on a roll, from being hammered at question time to making an utter fool of himself on the campaign...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Plenty of them around...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    All going as expected. Liars and cheats steal an advisory referendum. Politicians had promised to enact the result. Relatively moderate politicians try and find a way of enacting the result without damaging the country. Not possible without upsetting leavers. Predictably fail. Leavers take...
  9. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Except we would have had no say.
  10. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You have 2 questions both have to be answered. Do you want to leave the EU? If we leave the EU should it be deal x, or no deal?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    To even try and get people worried about the thoughts of a foreign head of state is amazing. Shows how desperate we are to be screwed by the USA through a FTA. I wonder what Farage’s cut will be? Imagine if I said, oh I don’t think Merkel will be impressed by us leaving, better not do it.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Which I thought was our idea after the war had shown us what happens when a government decides to do away with people’s rights. Shows how much the UK has changed in recent years.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The commentators here say that BoJo is on an election campaign and trying to appeal to Brexit voters. He tried to push any blame on to Merkel and she said if the solution is so easy he should be able to provide it in 30 days. Everyone says the EU cannot give into blackmail as China and Trump are...
  14. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Who gives a fxxk what Trump thinks. It’s the UK that is supposed to be becoming an independent country.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I didn’t say there was no support for reform. There has been a lot of indifference though, or lack of knowledge of how the EU works. What I meant was for specific reforms. It easy to say the EU should reform, but how and which part? You have to have pressure groups, campaigns etc.. Led by...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I didn’t say they would. I said the basic deal wouldn’t be as comprehensive as the transition period that they offered. According to Juncker.
  17. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It’s over. I was on the match thread for the 2. half.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The Eu said that things would continue so as to avoid disruption, but that it would not be comparable to the transition period of 2 years if we had acdeal. Priti Patel says FOM will end on 01. November. Expect some form of tit for tat.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I have reflected. It seems to me most people didn’t know much at all about the EU. Some get the courts muddled up and the ECHR is the EU. Others think th EU caused the austerity program of the UK government. Others think there will be a EU army and that we will be forced to have the Euro very...
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