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at least someone knows to look at facts as opposed to chuck around wild theories and made up stories. It’s not a bad group- not massive but well run and very profitable when you look at the bigger picture instead of cherry picking to fit a narrative but I still don’t like the new kit!

its just nonsense. Lots of related companies and King Of Shaves is no more than a brand name really, there are zero employees for example… he’s no billionaire but the exaggeration and sensationalist nonsense on here is… well it’s just business as usual I guess

hate it take 86/87 out and you have: 89 to 92.. failure in semis of league cup, post cup final glow gone, Don Howe, Terry Butcher, almost going down at Villa Park- mediocre times at best 00 to 01.. relegation, Craig Bellamy etc and more recently the bottom division & horrendous Nike efforts...

Doug King is also the owner of Yelo Enterprises, revenue £79m, along with other companies. he’s no Roman Abramovic but this talk of him being a pauper & so on are rubbish.

That thing is disgusting massive step down from previous kits

Not sure about that, the way things are going there will be a dedicated thread each match giving updates on how many boxes were occupied, probably submitted by GIMOC 💪

so King is now responsible for results as well?

How has it been jeopardised? You have a few people moaning about boxes on here and on social media. Bit over dramatic to be honest. it’s unbelievable that after all this time with no money people are now saying “actually we don’t need it, wouldn’t make any difference”, that’s utter bullshit...

You said “I'm not sure what difference a couple of 100k is going to make?” I know where you’re coming on your point, but saying that a few hundred grand is irrelevant to us is one of the most stupid things anyone has said on this whole topic.

gotcha

So after all these years of highlighting that we have no money, we are now saying we shouldn’t actually bother trying to get more money in. You couldn’t make it up

says there is a waiting list there, does that mean there actually are loads wanting to get one, or have I got it wrong.. or is it a marketing ploy 😁

then why do you keep trying to convince everyone that he’s made a huge ballsup on executive boxes? It’s like a crusade you’re on

No nor do I, but what can you do, it’s the way of the world. I’m not blinded by sentimentality, but I do pine for the days when the club was part of the community as opposed to a commercial operation & ‘brand’ that happens to be in the vicinity. but if we’re gonna do it then I can see what King...

But everyone talks about the ‘matchday experience’, these days, the age of “loyal supporters” is (very unfortunately) over to be honest, you see it in clubs where people who were going 30 yrs get priced out. the increase in boxes is fair, and comms was shite, don’t think anyone is saying...

Is ‘everyone’ saying that it’s a masterplan? You are lying. And it’s nothing to do with sisu, they are irrelevant, but if that’s the warped logic you need to apply in order to have a little whine about King then fair enough

a 5 year plan doesn’t mean you have no intention of completing anything until the end of that 5 years. Sooner the better, kick things off as you mean to continue. Why dawdle and give a couple of years grace?

then there are still boxes to sell. No difference. it’s a little disturbing how you have apparently taken a second job in ranting at everyone who will listen (and plenty who won’t) that its all going to fail and how everything is crap.

It is naive & stupid in the extreme to think that he’s not interested in new business and just wants existing boxholders to pay loads more

a whole load left over to sell during the season