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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If you think that’s bad, you won’t like trading on WTO terms.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I have no idea why you keep on and on about Selmayr and saying that the EU is blocking reform wanted by governments. Selmayr is irrelevant in the big picture. No one is discussing Selmayr. No election campaign was about Selmayr. The EU is not a separate state ruled by unelected old men. You...
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    John Cleese

    About migrating to somewhere and complaining about his home country changing whilst he has been away? Bit ironic. There are more elderly people in the UK than ever before and not as many UK ancestory kids. It is not surprising that migrants take up the slack and meet the demand for labour. I...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    For lying to wind people up so they crash the country. The work of a real traitor. He deserves a heavy punishment for the damage that he and his campaign have already caused and the rest that is to come.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    May made up the red lines she wouldn’t cross. The GFA was signed by the UK. The EU has to work within it’s rules and it won’t make an exception for a country that is leaving as it would be unfair in the remaining members. It is therefore impossible to leave on the same or better terms than we...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Anti EU sentiment is not growing everywhere. e.g. Ireland pro EU 90%, Germany anti EU 10%. Italy lowest pro EU at around 50%. EU acceptance has actually gone up since Brexit. Why do you think that is?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    All the countries leaders are the EU and have the ultimate say via the EU council. Yes, of course some abuse the system and some break the rules, but the system is rule based and functions.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The tax revenue is very significant as are the well paid City jobs. Leavers keep on about getting our fishing rights back ( which have been largely sold to big Danish firms anyway ). If the trade off is fish against losing City influence, then we are losing more than we are gaining.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Our of interest, the greens are the rising star in Germany. Where I live they got 37%. In the state of Schleswig-Holstein as a whole they got 29.1%, AfD 7,4% and FDP Liberals 5,9%. West Germany AfD 8,8%, East Germany 19,57%. Greens, West 22,01%, East 13,78%. Liberals West, 5,64%, East 4,55%...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Boris Johnson said he would vote to remain in the CU and SM before the referendum.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The light coloured milkshakes have a connection to white racists, which is why UKIP gets targeted. So I think the right wing racists should throw brown milkshakes at snowflakes because of the snowflakes encouraging Islamists, or maybe red because of their commie hippy Guardian remainer views. (...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. The weapons of choice are stocked by Burger King, 5 guys and MacDonalds. Readily available. At the War of the Roses the choice of side was shown by a red rose or a white rose. Remain supporting lefties have gone for pink or light coloured milk shakes. The right wing ers have yet to decide a...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Or to remain if the people see that as a better alternative to what is on the table as leaving. If, as you claim, intelligent remainers see the necessity of leaving, leavers see the necessity of leaving and all negative points are irrelevant anyway, then it will be a walk over and any remain...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Whereas crashing the country to carry out a misguided and flawed referendum will put the matter to rest?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It is not irrelevant and has been warned about from the word go.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Some may do, but others see leave, especially no deal leave, as a disaster to be avoided at all costs. Here is an example of the, possible, effect of labour going full out remain based on polls: FactCheck: would Labour win an election if it backed remain?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    London is under threat of losing influence as a financial centre: Brexit fallout sees New York overtake London as world’s leading financial centre
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What was wrong then?
  19. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, I do, but I was accepting your point that leave would convincingly win for argument’s sake and saying let’s go for it. You can’t lose.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A pound collapse would be advantageous for some in the short term. But companies relying on imported parts in manufacturing would have to pay more for imports. The advantage would soon evaporate. The assumption that the economy is big enough to survive in the end is probably right, but you have...
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