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If you seriously believe that either Corbyn or Abbot are racist, I've got a bridge that you might like to buy. The simple truth, that you're struggling to admit, a bit like Keir, is that if you're on the left of the party you are no longer welcome, and Starmer will find any excuse to kick you...

That's not quite true, is it? Abbot did not lose the whip for rebelling, she lost it for a single letter to the Guardian for which she quickly apologised. Labour, under Starmer, is quite obviously not a broad church - I would that it was. The 'broad church' claim is a complete fiction to...

Whether it was fought for or not is irrelevant. Again, what business do you or anyone else have to *demand* that everyone votes? It's sufficient that we have the right to vote, that's what was fought for, not the compulsion to do so. We have lots of other rights that were hard won too. Take...

I think the problem with soup is you'd have to clear it all off again to glue yourself to the glass. 😁

Clearly, you are not a true fan. 😄 Edit: That's a bit of a cheap shot actually. In fairness, is there a reason why the club couldn't put safe standing in singer's corner? If it's because of the structures, I guess it's fair enough, if not, why not?

I think it's entirely possible that they didn't actually want to damage the Magna Carta, but just draw attention to their cause. I guess they've done that. I'm not sure that attacking cultural or artistic touchstones brings any great deal of support for any cause, mind.

And politely, I disagree. It's not for the state to demand my participation in an election. My choosing not to vote, should I choose that path, hurts no one. Why should anyone be compelled to vote by law?

I trust she'll now have the whip suspended (oo-err missus) for a year whilst an "independent" enquiry determines whether the apology meets party standards.

In fairness, the unions don't seem entirely convinced that Starmer isn't already backtracking on the workers' rights thing. Maybe he'd rather people weren't talking about it. Whenever I hear a Starmer "pledge", I find myself thinking of the Pirates' Code...

It might, or might not, marginally get a few more votes for Starmer's version of the Labour party. Whether that's literally good for politics overall, now that's a whole different question...

You're right, that's way below sixth form debate. More like year seven. I'm sure it's quite funny though.

Which bit is a conspiracy theory? Starmer shifting the party substantially to the right? Starmer abandoning the pledges he made when elected leader, and many since? Elphicke, as far as I can see, hasn't apologised for anything she's said in the past about the Labour party or its policies, or...

Take your point, but at least the last two PMs stood for the party they were elected for.

Just a minor amendment to your maths... Given the current rate of sexual scandals etc. the Tories seem to be prone to, there might be another dozen or so that get the boot before this government is done. 😁

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the individual MP, she was elected by her constituency as a Conservative, taking the Tory whip, and supporting a Tory manifesto. If she wants to stand under a different banner, then it should be put back to the electorate via a by-election. I'd say the...

Thanks, but that's not very honest. You're not actually listening to Ukrainian journalists, are you? You're trying to dig out examples of press suppression but completely ignoring the fact that the vast majority of Ukrainians (which would presumably include most journalists), do not want to...

So, absolutely no answer on how allowing Putin to take Ukraine by force improves democracy, reduces corruption, or enhances press freedom in that country then. That's because it's an obviously shit argument; literally the worst, weakest, most pathetic excuse ever for denying them support...

That is a piss poor argument, I'm sorry, and makes you and Sick Boy sound a lot like Putin apologists. You're making the same lame argument as Tucker Carlson here, does that not make your skin crawl even a little bit? Ukraine wasn't by any means a perfect country before its invasion by...

It's Granada Bingo for me, or no one. Glazepta can bollux.

Your point being? Who would have predicted Ukraine surviving the first few days? Ukraine will inevitably lose if the west doesn't back them, that part is obvious. You seem to be using it as an excuse for letting a tyrant overrun a sovereign European democracy. I'd prefer to use it as a...