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    Photography thread

    ... one year the field opposite our house grew opium poppies for some pharm company.
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    Photography thread

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    Photography thread

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    George Floyd

    Sorted.
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

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    George Floyd

    Anyway. George Floyd, diamond geezer and martyr to the fash. Discuss.
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    George Floyd

    lol. I can't believe I'm having a conversation on a football forum with some random bloke criticising a universally accepted economic formula. So which multi-dimensional model (which pays extra attention to the extremes) would you anti-capitalists use? Because I think the answer is 'The...
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    George Floyd

    Richard Murphy is, IMHO, a low-brow Marxist activist. However the one thing I do admire about him is that he doesn't even pretend that he's a qualified economist. He uses the term 'political economist' to describe himself - which is basically a made-up title to avoid admitting that he has...
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    George Floyd

    However the difference is that I've quoted the oracle as source in both cases and you've just written 'No'. It hasn't really been a compelling argument on your side. Thanks for your contribution Tony. I'm not muting you because you're not unpleasant but I am ignoring it because I don't think...
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    George Floyd

    It's a calculation. The definition of the calculation is clear. This is not about manipulating statistics, it's about making a calculation using a formula and then publishing the result. There is no manipulation because the formula is defined up front. I repeat, what is it about the formula...
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    George Floyd

    I'll not bother looking for it then. Not a big fan of conspiracy theorists.
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    George Floyd

    economists. If you disagree with the way it is calculated, let us know what it is that you think is flawed - because as a mathematician it seems perfectly logical to me.
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    George Floyd

    The universally accepted way to measure inequality: the Gini coefficient.
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    George Floyd

    Never heard of it. Sounds like an online computer game. What is it?
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    George Floyd

    It's so evidently true that the financial health of the country had improved that I'd say that the onus is on you to prove otherwise. By any measure you like, 2020 was better. In 2010 debt was increasing by more than 10% of GDP; there was greater unemployment; higher inflation and greater...
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    George Floyd

    Some more thoughts. The terms Right and Left wing get bandied about incorrectly. The political spectrum is two-dimensional: left and right are about how much you believe in free markets versus the people (the state) owning the means of production. The vertical axis is about authoritarianism...
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    George Floyd

    In which Nordic countries do the people own the means of production, Tony? Capitalist countries (with free markets and private enterprise) with high taxation is not socialism.
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    George Floyd

    Marx and Engels disagreed with you. I do agree that your perception of the terms may differ - but make no mistake that when people like Corbz use the term they know the Marxian theory and use it advisedly.
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    George Floyd

    I'm sorry, I have to pick you up on that as well. Nothing about the COVID emergency package is socialist. Indeed it's exactly the opposite. The government is funding private business precisely so that it can continue to be private business after this crisis. Nobody is suggesting putting the...
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    George Floyd

    Ian, I find that surprising from you. You must know that socialism is effectively the same thing as communism and Marxism. Marx himself uses both terms almost interchangeably. The only distinction he ever makes is that he sees socialism being implemented first with state control before...
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