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Said last season how I envied the teams like Ipswich and West Brom who attacked with a clear plan and patterns of play. Still jealous.

He did his ACL maybe 2 years ago, just after he was linked to Villa. Basically hasn’t been fit since.

Howley and Isaac Moore were considered big talents. Shame what’s happened to both.

Miss me with the enforcer, tough tackler stereotypes. This is exactly what we were missing yesterday.

Well he certainly wasn't going uphill quickly

Fuck me this forum is going downhill quicker than Sisyphus

Liverpool people saying he's off to RB Salzburg.

Awful first game for Rooney, but he's not the one out there defending terribly. Danny Rohl has got Wednesday playing really well. Reckon they'll end up top half.

I would sign this guy immediately

If we can only get one midfielder in I'd much rather have a guy who can pass through the lines and out of a press, than someone who can drive forward with the ball at their feet.

Hope that result and performance terrifies Doug into getting the chequebook out again. Or some idiots make bids for Kitching, Collins, Palmer and Allen so we can get rid and reinvest.

I know people love him, but 75% pass accuracy from a CB is hilariously bad.

Get the bid in for Kyprianou now. I’d rather not have eyes than watch Jamie Allen start at DM again this season.

Shocking performance. Looked nothing like the team we saw in preseason that was on the front foot and threatening. So pedestrian. How can you spend £40-odd million on signings and Jamie fucking Allen is still starting games.

Rudoni having to drop deep because Allen isnt making himself an option enough. Takes JA ages to get in the positions Sheaf just naturally occupies.

Can we bring Stamenic on now?

Allen outmuscled and stoke go close again. Christ.

Please don’t let Milan be injured

Allen is not a defensive midfielder. Beat for the cross and a few sloppy passes already.

Fuck me we need a new DM and fast.