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  1. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    I am not concerned that transwomen pose a danger in women's spaces. That is really not the issue for me. I don't want male bodies in women's facilities as they don't belong there. Note - difficult to be precise but best estimates indicate only around 5 per cent of transgender MTF have the...
  2. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5b39fab0e5274a70034208a2/factsheet-easy-read.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjrjsCz0aOGAxXxXkEAHf4WCS8QFnoECA0QBQ&usg=AOvVaw1_QwHu3U9UkP-gUb3Cw-sh Law doesn't really define the terms at all. Which is...
  3. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    I don't think we're going to agree on this but I think the Equality Act does provide some protections to individuals in nine protected characteristics but these are limited and have exemptions. As I said these are being tested in law and being "misgendered" can only be used as an aggravating...
  4. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Have read back my posts and struggled to find any example of me specifically calling trans women "men".
  5. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Don't think so. This is a disputed area of law. It is being tested in many cases and tribunals as we speak. The EA (2010) is in need of clarification as you will know if you follow the news.
  6. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Yes it is wrong if your aim is then to shame them into "be kind", just let them, how they have suffered, don't be mean ... My sympathy is mainly for the women and girls who have only just got some opportunities to play sport, to make a career in it, to have some success, medals, rewards etc...
  7. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    I see what you're saying but language matters. If calling a transgender male a woman is just being polite then not many people care. But if it leads to the expectation that she/they/he can access everything women have then No.
  8. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Duffer I fully accept that there are a small number of transgender people (male) who may wish to play in the women's game. This matters not. Even one is a category breach. Women have long campaigned for their own stuff and it must be protected. Would you have allowed Pistorius to run with his...
  9. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    I agree that it is a weak argument to pretend men transition deliberately to gain advantages and that men doing so is so they can attack women. These are nasty and unhelpful slurs. It is harmful and wrong to suggest all men are predators and that transgender individuals are a particular threat...
  10. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Do you have any ideas how we can proceed - respecting women's sports whilst avoiding vilification of trans people? Genuine question.
  11. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Some people don't think it's a big deal. You're entitled to your opinion. Mine is based on my life experience of women's access to sport being restricted and marginalised. I was never allowed to play as a youngster. PE teachers at Tile Hill Wood shooed us off the field when we brought our own...
  12. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    "If you're going to try using the "I'm rational" argument, it helps if you remove your own beliefs and emotions from it." This is a cheap shot and a classic misogynist tactic. I never claimed "I'm rational" so you're putting words in my mouth. Telling a woman to "remove your own beliefs and...
  13. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Well, let's see. The conjecture that I have never even spoken a transwoman is wrong. There are several unsubstantiated digs in your answer. Nobody is being vilified if they are required to respect the category that allows women and girls their own space. They are free to compete in their own...
  14. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    All ignorant conjecture. Try again using evidence and argument.
  15. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    https://www.hecheated.org/ If anyone is in any doubt. Most examples are USA and Canada. Of course, these are unverified but choose a name and find out more. Lia Thomas - swimming - USA Flying Bats - football - Australia Good place to start.
  16. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    What is progressive about denying women and girls fair competition in sport?
  17. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    A man says he's a woman. A woman says he's not. Pick a side. There is no compromise. If you feel sympathy for these 74 individuals make them welcome in men's teams. Start a campaign for their acceptance. Any women who are trans, however they present, dress or have grown beards are welcome in...
  18. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Why must I have sympathy for anyone who wishes to force their way into a category they are not entitled to? I am 5ft 1in and feel young. How would you feel if I identify as a 10 year old and insist on playing Under 10s girls football? Should a heavyweight boxer be allowed to fight a flyweight if...
  19. oakey

    FA allows sex discrimination

    Yes. Males put me at a disadvantage if they wish to play in women's sport. You know they are bigger, stronger, faster etc on average. I also don't want any males in the changing room - including my husband, son, brother, nephews etc
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