12th man (2 Viewers)

[skybluecam]

don’t know about ashamed but he hasn’t built any connection with the fans at games

might just be his persona but already Lampard names hasn’t really been sung

when we did, he just sat there no acknowledging

He won't feel he's earnt it yet. Lapping up praise for some pretty average form might not be a great look.

 

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[skybluecam]

One thing I’ve noticed about FL he hasn’t really referenced us at all on his insta or that he’s managing us, or posted when he got the job or anything.

To me it kinda feels like he’s ashamed

actually the weirdest criticism of a manager I have ever read

 

[skybluecam]

We're not special. That's what this season is proving.

Our atmospheres were great because, by and large, we had 6/7 seasons of constant success and improvement. We would be an embarrassment of a club if we didn't generate a good atmosphere off the back of that.

Now for the first time in a while we've stalled and it's disappeared very quickly.

People will talk about connection with the players etc, etc, but the reality is it's just performance.

 

[GIMOC]

He won't feel he's earnt it yet. Lapping up praise for some pretty average form might not be a great look.

ffs clapping the fans when they sing your name isn’t lapping up praise

it’s called connecting with the fans

 

[SBT]

might just be his persona but already Lampard names hasn’t really been sung

when we did, he just sat there no acknowledging

Mark would write to me personally to thank me for singing “Walking in a Robins wonderland” after every home game. Actually got a bit draining after seven years, but I appreciated the effort.

 

[GIMOC]

Mark would write to me personally to thank me for singing “Walking in a Robins wonderland” after every home game. Actually got a bit draining after seven years, but I appreciated the effort.

good for him

still doesn’t hide from the fact Lampard hasn’t adhered himself to the fans

 

[Saddlebrains]

good for him

still doesn’t hide from the fact Lampard hasn’t adhered himself to the fans

I view it that he doesn't feel he's earnt anything yet. And he would be right.

In interviews listen to what he says, he referes to the club, players and fans as 'they' or 'their'

And i think hes right too. He comes in after the best manager in the clubs history, knowing the reaction that got, and the shite football this year

I bet it will change if we start winning, or if he's here for a couple of years

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

don’t know about ashamed but he hasn’t built any connection with the fans at games

might just be his persona but already Lampard names hasn’t really been sung

when we did, he just sat there no acknowledging

Respectfully I think he’s just trying to get on with the job. He thanked the fans for the welcome and made sure to show gratitude at the first home match and away match.

He’s also on record to say he wants chants to go to the players not him. Early days yet but guess we as fans have to understand he’s going to be different to Mark (rightly or wrongly) and can’t expect the same reaction Mark had.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

One thing I’ve noticed about FL he hasn’t really referenced us at all on his insta or that he’s managing us, or posted when he got the job or anything.

To me it kinda feels like he’s ashamed


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This can’t be for real surely

 

[skybluecam]

ffs clapping the fans when they sing your name isn’t lapping up praise

it’s called connecting with the fans

clapping when? During the game? I don't like that anyway

He came over after the Millwall win and clapped didn't he?

Best way to connect with fans is to get the team playing well and winning games, we're not doing that enough yet so I'm sure that's his priority over gestures and such.

 

[Sick Boy]

One thing I’ve noticed about FL he hasn’t really referenced us at all on his insta or that he’s managing us, or posted when he got the job or anything.

To me it kinda feels like he’s ashamed


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Just when you thought things couldn't get any weirder...

 

[Skybluekyle]

I went to the game but couldn’t stay out for the drinking unfortunately! 100% I was sat away from my group and the scenes was still just something you couldn’t explain to someone not there.

Trying to describe it to the Mrs had her looking at me like a crazy person.

I still watch Ally McCoist’s ‘ohh nawww’ commentary every so often.

Me too, Ally was loving it (have a bit of a soft spot for him since)

 

[Skybluedownunder]

actually the weirdest criticism of a manager I have ever read

Just look at his posts and some of the things he’s referenced but nothing about us.
Rodri’s Ballon D’or, Sven dying… you’d think him getting the Cov job would be worth referencing and getting the fans on his side and building a following of the fans. Look at Mourinho with Fenerbache, he’s got all the fans on board with him.
Radio silence from Frank


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[skybluecam]

Just look at his posts and some of the things he’s referenced but nothing about us.
Rodri’s Ballon D’or, Sven dying… you’d think him getting the Cov job would be worth referencing and getting the fans on his side and building a following of the fans. Look at Mourinho with Fenerbache, he’s got all the fans on board with him.
Radio silence from Frank

oh dear you're actually being serious

 

[AOM]

actually the weirdest criticism of a manager I have ever read

Lampard's LinkedIn says his current employment situation "Is complicated"

 

[GIMOC]

I view it that he doesn't feel he's earnt anything yet. And he would be right.

In interviews listen to what he says, he referes to the club, players and fans as 'they' or 'their'

And i think hes right too. He comes in after the best manager in the clubs history, knowing the reaction that got, and the shite football this year

I bet it will change if we start winning, or if he's here for a couple of years

This comes again to connection with fans

boddy and robins both said they wanted to reconnect the fans with the club which they did

that connection is drifting away again

fans are fickle bunch. you want to keep them on side

if you don’t interact with the fans from the start the relationship will soon fade

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

This comes again to connection with fans

boddy and robins both said they wanted to reconnect the fans with the club which they did

that connection is drifting away again

fans are fickle bunch. you want to keep them on side

if you don’t interact with the fans from the start the relationship will soon fade

When Robins came back and we were relegated to L2, how did you find the connection between the manager/players and fans? It felt disconnected for a while for me, until the second half of the season when we are pushing for the play-offs

 

[shmmeee]

Not quite the same. I parked near the ground at Cardiff and when they let the traffic out it flowed. At the CBS people can't even get out of the car park for nearly an hour and that's before they encounter the road system.

Last two games I’ve been away well before half an hour from Car Park A TBF.

 

[skybluecam]

This comes again to connection with fans

boddy and robins both said they wanted to reconnect the fans with the club which they did

that connection is drifting away again

fans are fickle bunch. you want to keep them on side

if you don’t interact with the fans from the start the relationship will soon fade

How did Robins do that? By winning games, promotion and a league title. Not clapping ffs

 

[shmmeee]

How did Robins do that? By winning games, promotion and a league title. Not clapping ffs

There was much more to it than that.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Just look at his posts and some of the things he’s referenced but nothing about us.
Rodri’s Ballon D’or, Sven dying… you’d think him getting the Cov job would be worth referencing and getting the fans on his side and building a following of the fans. Look at Mourinho with Fenerbache, he’s got all the fans on board with him.
Radio silence from Frank


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Who gives a shit what he puts on social media?

 

[skybluecam]

There was much more to it than that.

Not really.

 

[shmmeee]

Not really.

If you think things like the fans forums he held at the start and things like making the players go over and clap after each game had no impact I don’t know what to say.

I’m not sure you remember quite how toxic the club was in 2017

 

[skybluecam]

If you think things like the fans forums he held at the start and things like making the players go over and clap after each game had no impact I don’t know what to say.

I’m not sure you remember quite how toxic the club was in 2017

At the end of the day those things would've been meaningless without the results on the pitch.

I still a ST holder back then lol

 

[The watchmaker]

Who gives a shit what he puts on social media?

Well I might... if he was cheering on the Leicester in an unironic manner or "Dominique Pelicot - what a great guy!" but seriously Downunder - has he been posting much in the last couple of months? Any possibility he just has less time on his hands now than when he was unemployed?

 

[shmmeee]

At the end of the day those things would've been meaningless without the results on the pitch.

I still a ST holder back then lol

I think the two went hand in hand. The relationship with the fans helped the results and visa versa.

 

[clint van damme]

Everyone was so keen to proclaim ourselves "best fanbase" in the league when things were going well.

Saying its up to the players, well thats basically admitting we are no better than every other team in the league.

(there's nothing wrong with that, but everyone will be talking the fanbase up again during the next good run/playoff charge)

Not everyone, just the fucking dimwits

 

[wingy]

What should we sing for Frank?

 

[clint van damme]

One thing I’ve noticed about FL he hasn’t really referenced us at all on his insta or that he’s managing us, or posted when he got the job or anything.

To me it kinda feels like he’s ashamed


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Think he's spoke about us on 4Chan

 

[clint van damme]

Who gives a shit what he puts on social media?

I certainly don't, though to be fair, I'm getting on and it's a changing world...

 

[shmmeee]

Think he's spoke about us on 4Chan

OMFG asked ChatGPT for a Lampard green text and it’s an absolute banger:


be me


Frank Lampard


football legend, Chelsea icon, banter-era manager


take Derby to playoffs, everyone calls me Frank Zidanepard


manage Chelsea, gets sacked twice, ouch.jpg


Everton comes calling, think it’s redemption arc


spoiler: it wasn’t


relegation battle, fans hate me more than VAR


get sacked again, becoming a meme


feel like going into punditry but BT already has Owen Hargreaves





hear whispers about Coventry


some bloke called Mark Robins brought them up from League Two


Cov in the Championship playoffs last season


decide it’s my time to shine


“Frank, you’re going to rebuild your career!”


sign the contract, announce the big move





first day


walk into Ryton training ground, ready to instill my philosophy


players look at me like I’m Gareth Southgate in a waistcoat


ask for training cones, staff hands me a box of broken bibs


realize budget is tighter than my jeans in 2005


“Frank, we can’t afford that. Have you tried Aldi?”





try to bring in Mason Mount on loan


Chelsea laughs harder than Jose at a press conference


end up signing a 35-year-old free agent and some kid from League Two


media starts calling me “Coventry’s Ole”


still believe I can turn this ship around





first match


go down 2-0 by halftime to Rotherham


fans chant “you’re just a s**t John Terry”


make subs, all out attack, LampardBall™ activated


lose 5-1


get booed off, feel like a Tesco meal deal manager





be me


Frank Lampard, Coventry manager


realize I’m stuck here longer than my uncle Harry at the tax office


tfw no Mason Mount


tfw no redemption arc


tfw still banter era

 

[GIMOC]

How did Robins do that? By winning games, promotion and a league title. Not clapping ffs

it more than just what happened on the pitch

robins would acknowledge the fans at any given time

everytime the fans sang his name, even at the start, he would acknowledge the fans

you can deny that all you want, it’s true

a few times now Lampard has had his name sang no acknowledgment

since then his name hasn’t been sung once

Little things make a big impression or little impression in this instance

fans remember the finer things especially when the going gets tough

The Pompey game was a prime example for anyone there that day

 

[Sick Boy]

Bring back Andy Thorn, he had a cheery wave.

 

[pusbccfc]

Everyone was so keen to proclaim ourselves "best fanbase" in the league when things were going well.

Saying its up to the players, well thats basically admitting we are no better than every other team in the league.

(there's nothing wrong with that, but everyone will be talking the fanbase up again during the next good run/playoff charge)

Absolutely spot on.

So many lapped it up.

We've become the fan base that many used to take the piss out of. Big numbers, no atmosphere.

 

[pusbccfc]

it more than just what happened on the pitch

robins would acknowledge the fans at any given time

everytime the fans sang his name, even at the start, he would acknowledge the fans

you can deny that all you want, it’s true

a few times now Lampard has had his name sang no acknowledgment

since then his name hasn’t been sung once

Little things make a big impression or little impression in this instance

fans remember the finer things especially when the going gets tough

The Pompey game was a prime example for anyone there that day

Lampard made it clear in his first interview that he doesn't want fans singing his name. He wants the fans backing the players.