Otis
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At the moment by all accounts, we can't defend against anybody.
Or they could just be defending people assist their own stupidity like when they post outrageous stuff. You can't defend against facts.
It's a bit different comparing donating money to a bunch of politicians and going to watch a football match. If people were saying to sisu, just have my money I support you with nothing in return I could understand.
People are paying to watch the football team they love play football.
can't have it both ways Nick, Sixfield going fans are not supporting SISU yet away fans who went to MK / Barnsley are ?
I'm not saying they are directly doing it to support to sisu, I don't think anybody hands over money for the love of sisu. By your working anybody who has handed over money supports them.
Or they could just be defending people assist their own stupidity like when they post outrageous stuff. You can't defend against facts.
I love to have a good debate. We don't have the full facts. So it helps us all having a debate where we keep to the facts of what we know and try and fill out the middle bit. But certain people turn it into a shitfest by twisting the truth all the time. For instance we recently had a poll. It was on how much we blame who for our predicament. A certain poster was throwing it down our necks that the majority of us blamed the council. Just over 50% gave at least some of the blame to them. But using the stats in the same way 93% blamed SISUE. But this was not mentioned whatever question was asked. So as he wanted it just turned into the normal slanging match.
Most people know why we are in Northampton. I will give you a clue. It is nothing to do with pie money. It is nothing to do with the rent. If it was we would be back home now. The money being lost through lower income would take many years to get back....and that is even if most of us go back once we are home. Facts are counteracted with if's and what if's. This is defending against facts. The worse thing is it stops us from filling in the info we don't know.
And that imo is why SISU should never get the freehold of the riochIt's all out of spite. "Cut your nose off to spite your face"
That would sum up the Northampton move IMO
And that imo is why SISU should never get the freehold of the rioch
Just to clarify, is there a freehold and a sharehold? Or something similar? and if so, what's the difference?
Agreed btw
There is a freehold, a sharehold and a leasehold.
Unfortunately Sisu have us in a stranglehold.
There is a freehold, a sharehold and a leasehold.
Unfortunately Sisu have us in a stranglehold.
can you explain the 3 please? in general terms, nothing too in depth needed
Well my understanding is that sharehold is just having a share in the freehold. Leasehold just renting or leasing a property. with not owning the land and freehold, having ownership of property and land.
And if you look up stranglehold in the dictionary it is listed as 'Sisu/ACL/CCC.'
Couldn't give a shit if they hold the freehold or not, just want the club to have access to all the revenues it possibly can, so we as a club can be as successful as we possibly can be. the whole point of moving there in the first place all those years ago. That was the idea wasn't it?
the money they pay goes to Otium, which ultinmately means they are supporting them
dont doubt they are supporting the players, but financially, its going to the owners
I presume then that no one will be going to Barnsley next weekend? And who pays the players?
I'm not.
And neither will anyone else as that would be giving cash to SISU. That will cause a few headlines next week, zero away support at Barnsley.
Supporting sisu you mean. Half the shouty sisu out people will be supporting them.
Supporting sisu you mean. Half the shouty sisu out people will be supporting them.
Like you Nick?
How like me? I haven't given sisu a penny so don't support them.
I meant are you going Barnsley?
Course you did, and no I'm not.
Erm okay? N oh right. But those that are, are hypocrites yeah?
Yes every single fan is, of course they are.
Back in the real world, if people shout about not giving sisu a penny or anybody who gives then money and supports them and then goes to Barnsley then they are shooting themselves in the foot. That isn't every fan by any means
so only the loyal, superior sixfields attendees maybe go?
so only the loyal, superior sixfields attendees maybe go?
What are you on about?
What are you on about?
you said if those not going to sixfields go to Barnsley, they are shooting themselves in the foot. so I asked, only those who go to sixfields can go to Barnsley?
You have people saying everyone who boycotts Sixfields shouldn't be going to away games cup games as it gives SISU money, doesn't that make the assumption that everyone boycotting is subscribing to NOPM? Maybe people are not going to Sixfields as they feel we shouldn't be playing home games there, if that's the case then they aren't shooting themselves in the foot / being hypocritical by going to away cup games.
Even if they do support NOPM there's no fixed set of rules or are people thinking SISU are going to make so much on away ticket sales in the cup it's going to offset all other lost revenue under NOPM?
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