Ian1779
Well-Known Member
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The reason SISU turned up in the first place because we were about to go to the wall due to being run so welll....
Or more likely were not bothered. Reasonable team in th PL and a fantastic stadium planned.
What could go wrong?
Er.....??
The reason SISU turned up in the first place because we were about to go to the wall due to being run so welll....
Just exactly what "Model Club" are we being run like now then? We all knew how the Club was being run before SISU took command. At least previous owners took the stance of "If not enough talented players at the Club..Buy some" hence 34 years in the Top division. Some of you who slag off previous owners yet "Run off at the mouth about us not having players like Keane, Dublin, etc. Don't forget that to have talent like that, you need to INVEST, not ASSET STRIP. ffs!!! rant over. Apologies if you think I've gone OTT, but there's the vast majority on here that have "Double standards" when it comes to previous owners and the "Shower of s**t" that we have at present!It's probably the same affliction that makes people think we were run like a model football club until SISU walked in the door....
Just exactly what "Model Club" are we being run like now then? We all knew how the Club was being run before SISU took command. At least previous owners took the stance of "If not enough talented players at the Club..Buy some" hence 34 years in the Top division. Some of you who slag off previous owners yet "Run off at the mouth about us not having players like Keane, Dublin, etc. Don't forget that to have talent like that, you need to INVEST, not ASSET STRIP. ffs!!! rant over. Apologies if you think I've gone OTT, but there's the vast majority on here that have "Double standards" when it comes to previous owners and the "Shower of s**t" that we have at present!
I can't remember him saying it is now a model club? Yes you need to spend big money when you want top players, especially big money you don't have...........................................................................On SISU takeover Ranson said Quote "We are debt free, and I'm going to make £20m immediately ready to take this football club forward" Does/did that sound like a Club that didn't have any money?
Just exactly what "Model Club" are we being run like now then? We all knew how the Club was being run before SISU took command. At least previous owners took the stance of "If not enough talented players at the Club..Buy some" hence 34 years in the Top division. Some of you who slag off previous owners yet "Run off at the mouth about us not having players like Keane, Dublin, etc. Don't forget that to have talent like that, you need to INVEST, not ASSET STRIP. ffs!!! rant over. Apologies if you think I've gone OTT, but there's the vast majority on here that have "Double standards" when it comes to previous owners and the "Shower of s**t" that we have at present!
Robbie Keane, what an excellent example you give us.
He was bought for £5m and sold after just one season for £13m.
So even past owners were forced to put money over talent.
........................................................................On SISU takeover Ranson said Quote "We are debt free, and I'm going to make £20m immediately ready to take this football club forward" Does/did that sound like a Club that didn't have any money?I can't remember him saying it is now a model club? Yes you need to spend big money when you want top players, especially big money you don't have...
Oh for administration back then. SISU's turning up has set the club back 7+ years IMO.
Yes I'm sure if Geoffrey's consortium had took us on we'd be in the Champions League by now.
I doub't we'll ever get in the champions league but do you think things would have been worse than they are now? The one thing we'll never know is who and how many offers we would have recieved for the club in the position it was in at the time and its not like SISU saved us from admin as that came later and when we were a less attractive prospect.
So yes we were set back when SISU took over and worse than that we have no clear vision of moving forward from where we are.
There was one other option to purchase. Sisu were the councils preferred option and if the other option was taken then I think the club would have ceased to exist very quickly
If change of ownership or the deal for the ricoh had worked? either way, who knows.
Haskell had no money so would we be actually be any better off. And if we had bought into ACL, that would of been better than where we are now surely??
There was one other option to purchase. Sisu were the councils preferred option and if the other option was taken then I think the club would have ceased to exist very quickly
He had about 15% maybe 17% (I don't remember the exact percentage but can look it up if important).
So he was a shareholder, chairman of the board and CEO. Too many positions - especially CEO and chairman is a poor mix as the chairman usually hires and fires the CEO.
BTW - if Hoffman and Elliott were particular unhappy with sisu they wouldn't sit around with responsibilities (and accountability) for three years. Surely it don't take that long to figure out what sisu are?
They resigned when they ran out of money and options.
Who is having a go at anyone? All i am saying is they are as much a part of the problem as to where we are as SISU or the council are.
They are not the savours and never will be. That is only my opinion and i would love them to prove me wrong. We would all like new owners but until they approach sisu direct instead of trying to go through fans groups then they will never be taken seriously and nothing will change
They all left our club when they saw what SISU were going to do to our club and didn't want anything to do with it all. They went from one extreme to the other. Gluttony one minute and starvation the next.
Like they didn't want anything to do with closing the academy?
I don't think we have hit rock bottom yet and am not sticking up for SISU in the slightest.
If there are consortiums out there willing to buy the club, why are they not approaching the club direct rather than do things through an anonymous protest group?
Are we on a fault picking thread Nick?
If not then keep to topic. If we are then for the first time ever why don't you pick out the faults with SISU instead of looking for the faults with anyone else
I don't think we have hit rock bottom yet and am not sticking up for SISU in the slightest.
If there are consortiums out there willing to buy the club, why are they not approaching the club direct rather than do things through an anonymous protest group?
We all know that if SISU were to let our club go now that they would want too much money for what our club is worth. All our club is now is a name and the history that comes with it. And the golden share with a position in Division 3. Clubs in a better position get sold for a quid. As usual there will be people interested once SISU give up and our club is available for nothing.
Wait a minute, I thought you were replying about Elliott and Hoffman, I replied with something about them? Is that not allowed now if it goes against the picture you are trying to paint?
When you find posts from me trying to paint SISU in a good light, you are quite welcome to post their faults.
And while we are picking faults, it wouldn't be "the first time ever" would it?
Don't they get sold for a quid because they have loads of debt and they take it all on?
I was doing a Nick post. Put aat the end and it doesn't matter what you say as you can say that you didn't mean it :sarcasm:
Four words Astute mate.....Nail on the head.Are we on a fault picking thread Nick? If not then keep to topic. If we are then for the first time ever why don't you pick out the faults with SISU instead of looking for the faults with anyone else
Haven't the club said that no one has made an approach for them? I guess that would be a start point. Someone puts a bid in. It gets rejected and then they talk until they find a suitable solution or the bidding party walks away.
If none of that happens, you can't moan about sisu not want to sell. The posts on FB the other day about Fisher in sainsburys, apparently it was said Joy would sell so why has no consortium contacted them directly?
Who has ever said they don't mean things when using a wink?
You have.
Haven't the club said that no one has made an approach for them? I guess that would be a start point. Someone puts a bid in. It gets rejected and then they talk until they find a suitable solution or the bidding party walks away.
If none of that happens, you can't moan about sisu not want to sell. The posts on FB the other day about Fisher in sainsburys, apparently it was said Joy would sell so why has no consortium contacted them directly?
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