Accounts Published - May 2024 (1 Viewer)

fernandopartridge

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We don’t average 20k a week. Probably only 4 or 5 players on that or above. I wonder if that’s the total staff costs? Players, coaching staff, shop staff, tea lady etc.

Wage bill of £24m (including NI and pension contributions) is for absolutely everybody employed by the club, 153 players and coaches and 61 admin and commercial. The players and coaches employee numbers have fallen since 2023 whereas the admin and commercial have increased by 80% (probably due to onboarding the retail + some additional other commercially focused roles). The wages and salaries is just over £20m. The average salary of a player in the first team squad is nowhere near 20k.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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That’s what I thought so why are they claiming it’s an extension
Season 5 Idk GIF by NBC
 

Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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Genuinely positive but some concerns/questions, although I’m not an accountant.

We only made £23.5M profit on Gyokeres and Hamer. This is based on book value (not transfer outlay), so as they were in the last year of their contracts with amortisation over their last 2-3 years - I’d have expected this to be higher. We have trade debtors of £17.8M so this suggests we’ve only received ~£6M upfront for Gyokeres and Hamer… which is probably why King needed to loan the £30M.

King has written the £30M as being unsecured and without interest which is a positive but with a maturity date of 2 years time. I guess he will need to extend this unless we generate £12.2M on player sales on top of the trade debtors to pay him back?

We have spent circ £35M on player registrations (the asset) and have trade creditors of circa £6M so that infers we have paid £29M upfront… hopefully so that we get better deals rather than paying more for over 3 years etc.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Genuinely positive but some concerns/questions, although I’m not an accountant.

We only made £23.5M profit on Gyokeres and Hamer. This is based on book value (not transfer outlay), so as they were in the last year of their contracts with amortisation over their last 2-3 years - I’d have expected this to be higher. We have trade debtors of £17.8M so this suggests we’ve only received ~£6M upfront for Gyokeres and Hamer… which is probably why King needed to loan the £30M.

King has written the £30M as being unsecured and without interest which is a positive but with a maturity date of 2 years time. I guess he will need to extend this unless we generate £12.2M on player sales on top of the trade debtors to pay him back?

We have spent circ £35M on player registrations (the asset) and have trade creditors of circa £6M so that infers we have paid £29M upfront… hopefully so that we get better deals rather than paying more for over 3 years etc.
Imagine Doug would keep kicking the can down the road regarding the loan until he sells the club and demands payment in full.
 

Cally Fedora

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Fairly standard. Key points reading between the lines. Club along with most others is dependant on a benefactor (King). He seems to have put a 2 year ceiling on prem status tied in to when he wants his cash back. If we get to the prem he’ll pay himself back. If not he’ll try and recoup via selling to someone else. We haven’t bought anything for £2m. That will be the capital additions tarting up Ryton.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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Fairly standard. Key points reading between the lines. Club along with most others is dependant on a benefactor (King). He seems to have put a 2 year ceiling on prem status tied in to when he wants his cash back. If we get to the prem he’ll pay himself back. If not he’ll try and recoup via selling to someone else. We haven’t bought anything for £2m. That will be the capital additions tarting up Ryton.
Why do you say he has a 2 year ceiling on getting to the Premier league or sell up. He might not want to sell at all.
 

Captain Dart

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Fairly standard. Key points reading between the lines. Club along with most others is dependant on a benefactor (King). He seems to have put a 2 year ceiling on prem status tied in to when he wants his cash back. If we get to the prem he’ll pay himself back. If not he’ll try and recoup via selling to someone else. We haven’t bought anything for £2m. That will be the capital additions tarting up Ryton.
Supposition.
 

Cally Fedora

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Why do you say he has a 2 year ceiling on getting to the Premier league or sell up. He might not want to sell at all.
He’s set the maturity date on his own loan as two years. No need to do that if he didn’t have something in mind. Of course it’s possible he’ll extend but if that’s his thinking why put the time limit on in the first place. He’s not a fan, he’s a businessman.
 

HJones23

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Interesting read on Wrexham's accounts; headline is their turnover was £26.7million, up %155 on py with a loss of £2.7m. It will be interesting to see how ambitious they are in the window this summer if they get promoted this year.
 

TomRad85

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Their turnover is nearly £27m, guess a load of that is faux sponsorship. Their average gate was 11k last season. Cov's turnover on similar gates was around a third of that.
Don't 'Knighthead' sponsor the Birmingham stadium to the tune of quite a few million per season? Is this a legit way around rules?
 
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TomRad85

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Wrexham have a lot to do imo. Birmingham have a team that could be around mid-table Championship really, if they are allowed to invest you could see a push closer to the top 6 for sure. Wrexham would need basically a whole new team. Parkinson is a honking manager too.
 

fernandopartridge

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Don't 'Knighthead' sponsor the Birmingham stadium to the tune of quite a few million per season? Is this a legit way around rules?

Wrexham reckon half of their income comes from north America, sounds like bullshit to me. They've issued shares apparently worth £28m this season. I can't see the year end 2024 accounts yet but this was the position at the end of the season they beat us in the cup.

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SkyBlueCharlie9

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On Wrexham these L2 figures are interesting. They have used 'The Robs' investment to build an effective model and now have a wealthy US family owner who I think may have paid the Rob's their investment back. Smart.
United Airlines and STOK coffee(?) paid massive sponsorships total of about £30m in L2 on back of the visibility of the club on Disneys Welcome 2 Wrexham programme.
Wealthy Allyn family have only now come in from US this season, before these accounts.
They have a lot of plastic US fans subscribing via Ifollow in L2 season now matches are on Paramount+ and numbers growing.
Fair amount of shirt sales in US too.
The figures were from L2 last season, and 150% revenue increase expected on L2 figures so expect a 50% increase for L1 (26.7m£ to 40.1m aprox.)
They could have £50m to spend in CChampionshipbut have a lot of ageing L1 players.
They have a long ball merchant manager also though who might not keep them up.
They are investing in ground rebuild and training facilities too.
Wrexham are here to stay for the long term.
That said they will do very well to stay up next season given their squad, but they will spend.
 

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