Aliens have surveyed Earth - now proven beyond reasonable doubt (6 Viewers)

wingy · Jan 9, 2018

My tongue in cheek observation (No pun intended) would be, have they used triangulation, the theodolite or GPS?
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Expanding on this our motivation when Surveying was initially for the purpose of defence.
Now we currently Survey space not to defend but expand because we're buggering this place up.
What would be Alien lifes motivation be in reverse?
Are they likely as us to swat a fly or tread on a spider?

Gazolba · Jan 14, 2018

dutchman said:
The only thing a UFO is evidence of is that a flying object has not yet been identified!

The great majority of UFO reports are investigated and explained away.
However, there are still a vast number that cannot be explained.
In other words. every known man-made or natural object has been ruled out.
Many of these objects exhibit characteristics that clearly make them not of this Earth.
Things like massive size, silent propulsion, staggering speed, acceleration and manouverability.

Otis · Jan 14, 2018

Gazolba said:
The great majority of UFO reports are investigated and explained away.
However, there are still a vast number that cannot be explained.
In other words. every known man-made or natural object has been ruled out.
Many of these objects exhibit characteristics that clearly make them not of this Earth.
Things like massive size, silent propulsion, staggering speed, acceleration and manouverability.

And mostly observed late at night after several ales.

BackRoomRummermill · Jan 14, 2018

Al UFO descend into the sea and hide there

duffer · Jan 14, 2018

Just on this thread, and for those of you that like reading, can I recommend Carl Sagan's Contact if you like pondering on this sort of stuff.

The film is pretty good, but the book has a lot more detail whilst still being surprisingly readable.

One concept is the Zoo theory, which references how we try to observe the lives of wild animals whilst deliberately avoiding contact with them. Would another 'superior' species take this approach to us?

Anyway, imho it would be remarkable if there wasn't intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. You've only got to look at our planet (or indeed, my kitchen) to see how life gets a hold everywhere even in the most hostile of conditions. Whether an alien intelligence would want to meet a violent, malevolent, spiteful species like ours, capable of inflicting things like SISU on each other, is entirely another matter.

Gazolba · Jan 15, 2018

duffer said:
Just on this thread, and for those of you that like reading, can I recommend Carl Sagan's Contact if you like pondering on this sort of stuff.

The film is pretty good, but the book has a lot more detail whilst still being surprisingly readable.

One concept is the Zoo theory, which references how we try to observe the lives of wild animals whilst deliberately avoiding contact with them. Would another 'superior' species take this approach to us?

<snip>

Yes, you can just imagine a group of alien scientists watching us on some remote viewing device: "Und heer vee hav dee Hooman Race, involved in a Life or Death Struugle".

Otis · Jan 15, 2018

duffer said:
Just on this thread, and for those of you that like reading, can I recommend Carl Sagan's Contact if you like pondering on this sort of stuff.

The film is pretty good, but the book has a lot more detail whilst still being surprisingly readable.

One concept is the Zoo theory, which references how we try to observe the lives of wild animals whilst deliberately avoiding contact with them. Would another 'superior' species take this approach to us?

Anyway, imho it would be remarkable if there wasn't intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. You've only got to look at our planet to see how life gets a hold everywhere even in the most hostile of conditions. Whether an alien intelligence would want to meet a violent, malevolent, spiteful species like ours is entirely another matter

And that's just Leeds United fans.

martcov · Jan 15, 2018

Gazolba said:
Yes, you can just imagine a group of alien scientists watching us on some remote viewing device: "Und heer vee hav dee Hooman Race, involved in a Life or Death Struugle".

First they have to find our planet and be looking for it. They may have already found thousands of planets with life if they are capable of traveling from a long distance. They may have come to the conclusion that it is no longer interesting to observe more life. It is us who are convinced that we are interesting enough to be observed. Doesn’t mean that we are.

Captain Dart · Jan 15, 2018

martcov said:
First they have to find our planet and be looking for it. They may have already found thousands of planets with life if they are capable of traveling from a long distance. They may have come to the conclusion that it is no longer interesting to observe more life. It is us who are convinced that we are interesting enough to be observed. Doesn’t mean that we are.

Cleaning out the indigenous population here is too big a task.:emoji_thermometer_face:

martcov · Jan 15, 2018

Captain Dart said:
Cleaning out the indigenous population here is too big a task.:emoji_thermometer_face:

Not really. Send a human looking android to America and get him elected. Wait a couple of years and the indigenous population will clear itself out. ;-)

Otis · Jan 15, 2018

Captain Dart said:
Cleaning out the indigenous population here is too big a task.:emoji_thermometer_face:

I think they do plan to, but it is hard to organise because closing times in the pubs across the world vary so much.

Gazolba · Jan 17, 2018

martcov said:
First they have to find our planet and be looking for it. They may have already found thousands of planets with life if they are capable of traveling from a long distance. They may have come to the conclusion that it is no longer interesting to observe more life. It is us who are convinced that we are interesting enough to be observed. Doesn’t mean that we are.

They would send out autonomous drones operating according to pre-defined parameters. The concept 'interesting' would be foreign to them. They would most likely be looking for generic signals like radio or spectral emissions, movement, heat signatures etc.
I consider it very unlikely UFOs would be piloted by actual aliens making decisions about where to go and what to observe or investigate.

Flying Fokker · Jan 18, 2018

good to read there is life out there on this forum.

I like a good mystery. Just a few thoughts of my own.

A lot of the literature, in my view is either regurgitated story telling or somewhere near the truth. Is it one story being told by thousands of voices over time.

Amazon Kindle owners can download. The Biggest Secret by David Icke. Sample of 10% of this book. 90 pages
He is at his best when you can’t hear him! He draws on all of the Reptillian stuff.

Reptilian leaders, dna, Mars, Venus multiples of alien life on Earth, anti semetism ( not Specifically Judaism). The rich and powerful. Religion’s common source. Etc etc etc. : )

His biggest flaw in my view was his declaration that he was Jesus Christ... I guess it was his attempt to get out there in the media. ( Why not him if another mortal could claim it/ his view that it is a construct to brain wash the masses).

mrtrench · Jan 18, 2018

I'm not sure anyone here is drawing on David Ike for their posts!

Otis · Jan 18, 2018

As he's the son of God and I don't believe in God, I always take his reptilian, paranoid dribble with a pinch of salt.

mrtrench · Jan 18, 2018

Otis said:
I always take his reptilian, paranoid dribble with a pinch of salt.

Sounds delicious.

Gazolba · Jan 18, 2018

Flying Fokker said:
<snip> The Biggest Secret by David Icke. Sample of 10% of this book. 90 pages
He is at his best when you can’t hear him! He draws on all of the Reptillian stuff.

Reptilian leaders, dna, Mars, Venus multiples of alien life on Earth, anti semetism ( not Specifically Judaism). <snip>

The best reptilian alien was the Gorn from Star Trek but somehow I don't think a true alien would look anything like that:

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 18, 2018

Gazolba said:
The best reptilian alien was the Gorn from Star Trek but somehow I don't think a true alien would look anything like that:
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Best was the black tar monster of Star Trek TNG that killed off one of the characters:

SkyblueBazza · Jan 18, 2018

Let us thank our lucky stars that if they have been & observed...they ignored us rather than pressing 'Delete'!

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Gazolba · Jan 20, 2018

SkyblueBazza said:
Let us thank our lucky stars that if they have been & observed...they ignored us rather than pressing 'Delete'!

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Why would they delete us when we are such great entertainment? They are probably placing bets on how long we will last.

Otis · Jan 20, 2018

Gazolba said:
Why would they delete us when we are such great entertainment? They are probably placing bets on how long we will last.

We are their reality TV.

Captain Dart · Jan 20, 2018

Otis said:
We are their reality TV.

God that most be so boring and pointless.. oh I see what you mean.

Philosoraptor · Jan 21, 2018

Don't often have a chance to share this.

Don't make 'em like this anymore.

Gazolba · Jan 22, 2018

Google 'Baltic Sea Anomaly' and tell us what you think it is.

BackRoomRummermill · Jan 22, 2018

Gazolba said:
Google 'Baltic Sea Anomaly' and tell us what you think it is.

It’s also interesting that the Baltic is less salty than the rest of the oceans

I think this object is something from WW2 , pennemunde is on the coast and was a secret base till the RAF flattened it , V1 and V2 rockets etc

dutchman · Jan 22, 2018

UFO at the Bottom of the Baltic Sea?

"The article published by Earth We Are One in December of 2014 is a repurposed version of a story published by the UK newspaper
Daily Mail in June 2012. While both articles deal with a real discovery by the shipwreck hunting team Ocean X, experts have since weighed in and determined the object on the bottom of the Baltic Sea is not an alien spaceship."

Gazolba · Jan 23, 2018

dutchman said:
UFO at the Bottom of the Baltic Sea?

"The article published by Earth We Are One in December of 2014 is a repurposed version of a story published by the UK newspaper
Daily Mail in June 2012. While both articles deal with a real discovery by the shipwreck hunting team Ocean X, experts have since weighed in and determined the object on the bottom of the Baltic Sea is not an alien spaceship."

I've read all the research and no-one knows conclusively what it is. There are only theories at present.

Captain Dart · Jan 24, 2018

Pretty obvious it is the crash site of the Millennium Falcon.

shmmeee · Jan 24, 2018

Gazolba said:
I've read all the research and no-one knows conclusively what it is. There are only theories at present.

A theory is a hypothesis backed by evidence. Where’s the evidence for the spaceship “theory”?

Philosoraptor · Jan 24, 2018

Whoever put a drum and base background to this deserves a medal.

dancers lance · Jan 24, 2018

Gazolba said:
I've read all the research and no-one knows conclusively what it is. There are only theories at present.

99% of the images regarding the Baltic Sea anomaly are heavily edited and are to be treated as fiction, even though it does exist, nearly all leading geologists class it as an "Glacial Deposit"

dutchman · Jan 24, 2018

It doesn't matter how many times a supposed 'UFO sighting' is debunked by experts, 'believers' continue to cite it as 'proof of their existence'.

dutchman · Jan 27, 2018

Philosoraptor · Jan 28, 2018

A great documentary here

The Big Think - Aliens

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 28, 2018

It is almost certain that some kind of cellular alien life exists, but more advanced life would need to have mastered faster-than-light travel to have a shot at detecting us or anything else. The same applies to us, though the obvious place to look would be older parts of the Milky Way.

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