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Huckerby
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you're all whiney little bitches at times
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torchomatic
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Grendel
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There wasn't any - just questions he ignored.
mark82
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People keep saying Wilson alone is worth £3 million. What it is actually worth aside, would a company who have put £60 million in - or whatever you believe the figure to be, accepted £52k? In that sense it isn't realistic.
If you were keeping the debt you could offer them £1 I'm sure.
Skyblueweeman
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So, my take on this thread:
* Grendel divides opinions - fact.
* His post on this thread with the queries to the KCIC offer raises a number of salient points.
* The abuse he gets for these points is unreal?
* Lordy rightly pointed out that it's the lack of questioning (when SISU came in) that has led us to this situation - had we been so inquisitive at the start, things might be different.
* I'll hold my hands up to another Lordy point - I was one of those who welcomed them...I've learnt that I was hasty on my assumptions that they'd be good be for the club.
* Blame me for poor due diligence if you like....kinda en vogue in the past few years.
* I genuinely believe MO has CCFCs best intentions at heart, although the plan has got many holes...as if we wouldn't get 5,000 fans back at the Ricoh.
* To whichever poster who retorted to Grendels post with the remark "Why don't you go and something about it?".....well why don't you??
The petulance on here is a disgrace sometimes...we all want the same thing....if someone disagrees with your opinion, be man enough to respect it. I for example disagree with some of Astutes posts from time to time, but he's a gent about it and explains himself without resorting to playground name calling.
Now sort yourself out you f*&king t£$ts!
WM
* Grendel divides opinions - fact.
* His post on this thread with the queries to the KCIC offer raises a number of salient points.
* The abuse he gets for these points is unreal?
* Lordy rightly pointed out that it's the lack of questioning (when SISU came in) that has led us to this situation - had we been so inquisitive at the start, things might be different.
* I'll hold my hands up to another Lordy point - I was one of those who welcomed them...I've learnt that I was hasty on my assumptions that they'd be good be for the club.
* Blame me for poor due diligence if you like....kinda en vogue in the past few years.
* I genuinely believe MO has CCFCs best intentions at heart, although the plan has got many holes...as if we wouldn't get 5,000 fans back at the Ricoh.
* To whichever poster who retorted to Grendels post with the remark "Why don't you go and something about it?".....well why don't you??
The petulance on here is a disgrace sometimes...we all want the same thing....if someone disagrees with your opinion, be man enough to respect it. I for example disagree with some of Astutes posts from time to time, but he's a gent about it and explains himself without resorting to playground name calling.
Now sort yourself out you f*&king t£$ts!
WM
torchomatic
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I agree. Not sure why questioning MO was seen as abuse.
Agree about Astute. I tend to disagree with him most of the time but at least he tries to explain himself. I've "liked" a lot of Shmmee's posts recently too. As for the rest of 'em? Wankers.
Agree about Astute. I tend to disagree with him most of the time but at least he tries to explain himself. I've "liked" a lot of Shmmee's posts recently too. As for the rest of 'em? Wankers.
shmmeee
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Why does anyone give a damn what they've put in?
Since when have you read that reasoning in the acquisitions and mergers section of the FT? "Oh yeah, the company's losing tens of millions a year, but the bloke who owns it put all his own cash in, so you gotta pay something". What??
Wilson may be worth £3m, but that £3m won't pay the bills for a year and then you have no Wilson.
By your argument, Sisu should've paid over £60m for us in the first place.
Frankly, the only reason to charge for a football club is if it has significant non-player assets (it doesn't) or significant cash flow (it doesn't), any other time whoever is taking it off your hands is doing you a favour.
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skybluetony176
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if you want to see people spitting the dummy because people have dared asked some questions of someone just read this thread
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threa...n-Lucas-on-Get-Cov-Back-to-the-Ricoh-platform
some classic grendulls in there and i think this must have been when torch's apprenticeship with grendull began.
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threa...n-Lucas-on-Get-Cov-Back-to-the-Ricoh-platform
some classic grendulls in there and i think this must have been when torch's apprenticeship with grendull began.
Skyblueweeman
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olderskyblue
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Didn't you abuse him, then apologise for it Nick? (or was that someone/something else?)
skybluetony176
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It gets hard to keep up with who's abusing who on here. Like a tourettes version of Home and Away.
Also worth noting that the only person who came close to reassuring me on said deal was... you. And as you weren't involved in it and we ascertained you're not Hoffman, that ain't a great endorsement.
olderskyblue
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It's worse than I thought NW, get help quickly..!!
Nick
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I didn't abuse him, something I said I re-read and apologised but he didn't get abuse.
It was people asking questions who were abused for daring to ask questions.
I suggest Michael moves out of his Greenhouse.
mrtrench
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I don't recall any abuse either, only questions which Michael declined to answer. OK, so in the end Fisher came back with a load of old bollocks about revenue (P/L = Income - Expense Tim, not just Income - duh!), but the questions over the detail on a pretty valueless barrier option were valid.
skybluefred
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The Club sold the rights to revenue streams for some £5m. Where in your world do you find them getting those right's back for free--cloud cuckoo land
possibly.
torchomatic
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Thanks for that. I'm more interested in the abuse MO got, if you could point me in the direction of that.
Grendel's apprentice? Tee-hee, you are a funny guy.
Grendel's apprentice? Tee-hee, you are a funny guy.
covmark
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He is really funny isn't he. I particularly like his use of the word suxfields. Comedy genius.
Skyblueweeman
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Hi Fred...genuine question (memory like a sieve)....who did they sell those rights to?
If it wasn't the Higgs, then any fan of any team in the country would see the selling off rights for £5m and getting them back for nothing as an absolute result. Just like a player...say we sold C.Wilson for £3m and then tried to get him back for free....would you be against that??
The only time my point is screwed, is ethically if it was the Higgs who bought those rights for £5m.
If that's the case, then totally agree. For any other party, I'd be up for it.
Does that make sense?!
Yours forgetfully,
WM
skybluetony176
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cheers, but i'm not here for complements
skybluefred
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Hi Weeman I'am not sure who bought the rights-but-the Club where in trouble and needed the money.I think it could have been a joint purchase
by Higgs/ACL although I'm sure somebody will come up with the answer.
Sorry but in my world if you sell something and then want it back you try to negotiate the purchase. The Club/sisu will have wasted more on ill judged
legal costs to expect any right minded body to give them back for free or at a loss.
Skyblueweeman
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Don't disagree with the legal costs piece Fred...be interesting to see what the judge passes down in costs on Friday.
As for the first bit, I see what you're getting at about negotiating but if my clubs sells something and then can get it back for free, I'm all for it. It's not cheating so why shouldn't we (unless it's a charity in which case my point is mute).
Hey ho....just see it differently.
WM
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It's also not popular to question why said charity would get involved in said football club in the first place...
lordsummerisle
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Been there, got the t-shirt..
Houchens Head
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Houchens Head
Fairly well known member from Malvern
No. You're a prat.
We are connected now though Head, due to that beautiful picture you did. I'm very flattered . XX
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mark82
Super Moderator
That would be rational. At the end of the day the club is worth whatever Sisu are willing to sell it for. They want to recoup some of their money so of someone wants to buy it that is what they need to do. Not saying it's worth it, just that they won't just give it away debt free.
mark82
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Just saying if he wants to offer a handout that's where he should look.
TheOldFive
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It was funny wasn't it? Rare in these dark times that true sprinklings of comedic genius shine through. HouchensHead is consistently on of the best contributors to this forum in my opinion, a real talent.
mark82
Super Moderator
They could have spent that money better on buying back revenue streams for sure. I'd personally be more than happy if they sold Wilson and used that money plus the Arsenal/Clarke money to buy Ricoh revenue streams. I'd happily watch a team of no hoppers and kids if it meant we played in Coventry.