skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Well it won’t be SISU’s fault will it.
You might be thinking of the talks Anderson was having with Wasps. When he came in he said he wanted to start afresh with all options on the table with the preference being staying at the Ricoh long term. Think a rolling 10 year deal was mentioned at some point. Both sides reported that talks were progressing well and then Wasps turned round and said they were stopping all talks.
Interestingly a few weeks after leaving Anderson was interviewed by a German paper (he is German) and spoke about how he and his investors had been trying to take over a club. He also mentioned he couldn't discuss Coventry City due to a confidentiality clause but did mention the potential target as an English League One / League Two club. Could Wasps stance have lost us the chance of new owners? We'll probably never know.
What an absolute cop out.
Question: At the meeting of full council 9th September, 2014, when the sale was unanimously agreed, councillors debated the following:
The commitment that any deal relating to the Ricoh Arena would not be approved unless the following three tests were satisfied:
(1) A good deal for the City
(2) The security and future of Coventry City Football Club
(3) The security and future of Coventry Rugby Club
The then council leader Anne Lucas said at the press conference announcing the sale on October 8, 2014: “This deal would not have happened if it threatened the future of the Sky Blues or Coventry Rugby Club.”
Is the council satisfied these tests are still being met? Does the council have any powers to enforce these?
Joint statement from Cllr George Duggins, Leader of Coventry City Council and Cllr Gary Ridley, Leader of the Opposition Conservative Party, Coventry City Council: “Back in 2014, Coventry City Council was very clear that the existing tenancy the football club had to play at the Ricoh Arena must be honoured as part of any sale to Wasps.
“This tenancy had four years to run and the length was negotiated by the football club as its intention was to then move to a new stadium. As a result, this 2014 pledge was fulfilled by both Coventry City Council and Wasps.
Funnily when they said they mentioned the security and future of the club was a 'pro' for selling the ricoh to wasps they failrd to specify what thet really meant was only for that current 4 year deal only......I wonder why??
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The ridiculous figures that have been banded around as to what SISU wants for the club can’t be motivating at all. Given that they’re so ridiculous I can’t imagine Tim would believe it possible or in the slightest bit likely. If another rumour is true he has apparently tried to bring people in to takeover/invest in the club and SISU have rejected it out of hand.
Well the part he has never met her is untrue. He had a conversation with her at Wembley.You do realise that TF is merely a figurehead now and effectively just a bridge between SISU and the club. To put it into context Dave Bobby has zero communication with Joy and, I've heard from reputable sources, has actually never even met her personally. Tim's the only one really she deals with. TF won't stand in the way or pipe up because it's not his job to do so. He's paid a handsome salary to be a yes man and work x amount of days a month by attending perhaps one game a month and pop in now and again at Ryton.
Why would he do anything other than agree with his club's statement? He's there to say everything will be fine and the owners are fully behind the club that's it.
Well the part he has never met her is untrue. He had a conversation with her at Wembley.
Aren’t we also supposed to believe that Tim doesn’t get paid? Sure he’s repeatedly said that.
There are two directors of SBS&L Fisher & Deering
the 2017 accounts for SBS&L show the following for the Group (SBS&L + Otium)
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Although Venus was a director for 9 mths of that year
There is one director of Otium - Fisher
the 2017 accounts show the following
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Could be reasonable to conclude Fisher gets paid by a intermediate company set up at least £75,781 by Otium.
Does that mean he gets £100k paid by SBS&L less what was paid to Venus or it a charge paid to SISU Capital for the Director services of Deering who is a SISU Capital employee?
I have heard that rumour before. I don’t think there’s any merit to it. Certainly nothing at companies house to back it up so unless he’s done it through SISU and is one of their hidden investors I can’t see it myself.
I went to an open meeting that the Trust had arranged with Dave Body at the Ricoh about a year ago. Body spoke about communication with Seppala and it certainly seemed that they had had face to face meetings. As with Anderson before him, he also confirmed the obvious, saying that the legal action comes from Sisu and is nothing to do with the club.You do realise that TF is merely a figurehead now and effectively just a bridge between SISU and the club. To put it into context Dave Bobby has zero communication with Joy and, I've heard from reputable sources, has actually never even met her personally. Tim's the only one really she deals with. TF won't stand in the way or pipe up because it's not his job to do so. He's paid a handsome salary to be a yes man and work x amount of days a month by attending perhaps one game a month and pop in now and again at Ryton.
Why would he do anything other than agree with his club's statement? He's there to say everything will be fine and the owners are fully behind the club that's it.
I went to an open meeting that the Trust had arranged with Dave Body at the Ricoh about a year ago. Body spoke about communication with Seppala and it certainly seemed that they had had face to face meetings. As with Anderson before him, he also confirmed the obvious, saying that the legal action comes from Sisu and is nothing to do with the club.
There is no right or wrong about it, it's just businessWrongly.
Well you would have thought she would have learnt her lesson from the last time.Fine they met once because they were in the same room and were sat near to each other. In a professional capacity Dave Boddy has never dealt with Joy nor speaks to her. Only repeating what I've heard.
No I wasn't I just paid for them.Last was one of the ring leaders in the whistle protest as everyone knows.
Don’t disagree there is a clear strategy but this isn’t directly against the fans. They don’t sit there and work out ways of annoying and aggravating us fans because they don’t give a shit about us fans. Their strategy is against wasps, council etcAs far as I can remember their appeals have always been on the deadline day. The fact that they got the club to point out that their deadline had not passed as had been reported would indicate that they knew full well what they were going to do. Do you really see Seppala and co huddled with their lawyers on deadline eve saying will we or won’t we? I think this is their ongoing strategy; to frustrate, annoy and irritate as much as possible as well as prolonging the whole process by waiting until the last possible day.
Not if we have the same builders as Spurs.It's nice to see some original wit on this board
Don’t disagree there is a clear strategy but this isn’t directly against the fans. They don’t sit there and work out ways of annoying and aggravating us fans because they don’t give a shit about us fans. Their strategy is against wasps, council etc
....This is what confused me when he reiterated the story to myself, as I was always under the impression that SISU were always activity open to listen to investors/potential new owners however how wrong I was! Especially as finding co-investors was his priority when he initially came into the club.
We haven’t got room,to many kin charity shops.Bedworth branch of Sports Direct?
I have heard that rumour before. I don’t think there’s any merit to it. Certainly nothing at companies house to back it up so unless he’s done it through SISU and is one of their hidden investors I can’t see it myself.
Think about it. He’s highly thought of in the financial world as his other business activities prove. If you were in his position would you either go and live a relatively easy life being a consultant in Frankfurt or Wall Street for a decent salary that he probably doesn’t even need or listen to several thousand people in unison call you a wanker every week or two whilst apparently earning no salary after being undermined by those apparently above him? I can believe the no pay bit but for no long term reward? Is he mental?
Either way we’re the ones who are being affectedDon’t disagree there is a clear strategy but this isn’t directly against the fans. They don’t sit there and work out ways of annoying and aggravating us fans because they don’t give a shit about us fans. Their strategy is against wasps, council etc
Well you would have thought she would have learnt her lesson from the last time.
Does seem strange doesn't it, turning down people who want to invest.
Perhaps this would have a negative bearing for any future civil action for damages. SISU can hardly tell a judge that the council and wasps effectively made the club toxic property and lost them millions if there were people prepared to invest.
Considering we're on our 45th appeal I have a feeling Joy isn't one for learning from her mistakes
There are two directors of SBS&L Fisher & Deering
the 2017 accounts for SBS&L show the following for the Group (SBS&L + Otium)
View attachment 11096
Although Venus was a director for 9 mths of that year
There is one director of Otium - Fisher
the 2017 accounts show the following
View attachment 11097
Could be reasonable to conclude Fisher gets paid by a intermediate company set up at least £75,781 by Otium.
Does that mean he gets £100k paid by SBS&L less what was paid to Venus or it a charge paid to SISU Capital for the Director services of Deering who is a SISU Capital employee?
Not to mention we don't actually know what Fisher said, its second hand information.Exactly. But knowing Joy, she could just say that any interested parties weren't the right owners neither for SISU or for the club though. As that's a subjective comment, it wouldn't be classified as perjury if she stated that in a court of law whether it was true or not. To be honest Joy is so far gone by this whole ordeal she probably genuinely believes that. Plus, I doubt any previous interested parties would want to be dragged into a legal battle to confirm/deny such a thing anyway so Joy can effectively say what she likes really.
It's not a mistake mate, imho, it's entirely deliberate. SISU genuinely believe that there's a chance of winning this, and in truth I think there still is until the whole legal process has been exhausted. It's a very remote chance I suspect, but it's enough to keep them digging away at it.
A different judge and a different opinion on some fairly obscure, very technical section of legislation and it might just go the other way. My gut feeling though it that the end of the road is nigh for this particular strand, and if they're going to keep going at it then it won't be through the JR process.
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