Ashes 2023 (8 Viewers)

[SkyBlueSoul]

Just refusing to learn here, and now we've got Broad against the short ball.

 

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[LastGarrison]

Someone educate me, why do we seem so poor against the short ball?

 

[David O'Day]

stop playing at every fucking short ball

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It’s an interesting conundrum
Without Lyon they should just be saying bowl it and we’ll ignore it for 30 overs

we just can’t

 

[David O'Day]

It’s an interesting conundrum
Without Lyon they should just be saying bowl it and we’ll ignore it for 30 overs

we just can’t

If we ignored it there's plently of runs.

Cummins as soon as thye doesn't get a wicket for a while he retreats into really defensive fields where we can score safely and quickly

 

[SBAndy]

Someone educate me, why do we seem so poor against the short ball?

The Aussies have realised we are desperate to score. Short balls will naturally bring about more air-time after a shot unless they’re left alone. Basically, we’re having a swipe at anything rather than letting the bowlers tire themselves out.

 

[CCFCSteve]

stop playing at every fucking short ball

said exactly that to a mate. Just duck and leave a few, Brook tried to play almost every one and was on no position to play that last shot. Bizarre as he’s a quality young batsmen

 

[CCFCSteve]

We’ve done so well in recent months of putting pressure on the opposition, the way we’ve played the short ball has just invited a load of pressure on ourselves

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

Someone educate me, why do we seem so poor against the short ball?

Because we keep playing at it essentially. They've set up a field with men back to catch so the best thing is to just duck them and put away anything on a length. But bazball probably dictates that isn't entertaining enough.

 

[tisza]

Brook going to need to learn fast. Going to spend a summer having to deal with short pitched bowling.

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

The match essentially hinges on the tail sticking around long enough for Bairstow to get a century here

 

[tisza]

Someone educate me, why do we seem so poor against the short ball?

Not smart enough to le them go. Still a fine line between aggressive and stupid batting.

 

[David O'Day]

It's not Bazball that is the issue, it's stupidity. The ball brook was never there to be hit to the part of the ground he hit it to. There were loads of scoring other side

 

[CCFCSteve]

Brook going to need to learn fast. Going to spend a summer having to deal with short pitched bowling.

After that display 100%. Be interesting to see if he can just duck and weave in future. Root and Brook are two classy batsmen and have disappointed me the most…theyve now exposed the tail to a continued barrage as well !

 

[LastGarrison]

Cheers for the insight gents.

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

How the fuck has Winviz got us at 52%?!

 

[SBAndy]

What the fuck do they put into Winviz to make it spit out England as clear favourites?

And just as I type that, fucking horrendous shot from Bairstow. Bet Winviz still has us favourites.

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

 

[David O'Day]

How the fuck has Winviz got us at 52%?!

Winviz think's steve smith is a c**t

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

Well this is shit.

Looks like the Roses derby is going to be rained off later too which is an extra kick in the nuts.

 

[lifeskyblue]

Great opportunity to post a decent score then poor shots and slump and hand it to the Aussies


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[SBAndy]

What a mess.

 

[tisza]

Patience with Bazball will wear thin if the number of ridiculous dismissals doesn't reduce. And Bairstow has to be scoring runs to justify keeping Foakes out. And they all better get used to short bowling - what was that 4 batsmen hit??

 

[CCFCSteve]

Patience with Bazball will wear thin if the number of ridiculous dismissals doesn't reduce. And Bairstow has to be scoring runs to justify keeping Foakes out. And they all better get used to short bowling - what was that 4 batsmen hit??

As DOD said, that wasn’t Bazball so much as very poor shot selection. Stokes showed a willingness to be patient so it’s not Bazball order. Frustrating as everyone could see we were playing into Aussies hands. Some very good short bowling though

 

[CCFCSteve]

Time for bowlers like Anderson and Robinson to step up

 

[David O'Day]

If Lyon's can't bat they can't sub someone in as it's not a concussion injury?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I hope stokes and McCallum beat some heads privately and stick with them publically

 

[Sick Boy]

What is 'Bazball'?

 

[David O'Day]

What is 'Bazball'?

it's just more attacking cricket

It's a reaction to the fact that test ricket outside the uk is dying and needs to attract more spectators and the fact that under silverwood we were so negative and would end up 130/5 after 60 overs

 

[David O'Day]

That Brook dismissal get's worse, it's so far down legside yet he hits to off

 

[tisza]

As DOD said, that wasn’t Bazball so much as very poor shot selection. Stokes showed a willingness to be patient so it’s not Bazball order. Frustrating as everyone could see we were playing into Aussies hands. Some very good short bowling though

Going to have to argue Bairstow & Robinson - who can both bat -were Bazball. Wickets falling and both out trying to score big runs. Last recognised batsman has to do better and nurse the tail - not expose it. Bazball is about maximising pressure not crumbling under it. Sometimes you have to briefly reset then go again. Theory might be sound but current application isn't working - particularly with the lower order.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Going to have to argue Bairstow & Robinson - who can both bat -were Bazball. Wickets falling and both out trying to score big runs. Last recognised batsman has to do better and nurse the tail - not expose it. Bazball is about maximising pressure not crumbling under it. Sometimes you have to briefly reset then go again. Theory might be sound but current application isn't working - particularly with the lower order.

Can’t disagree with that, although just thought Bairstows was a bad shot more than some crazy aggressive one

 

[Otis]

I think this test may already be lost now

Need to skittle the Aussies out for a lead less than 280/290 I think.

 

[CCFCSteve]

I think this test may already be lost now

Need to skittle the Aussies out for a lead less than 280/290 I think.

Bowled pretty well so far, just no luck.

 

[tisza]

I think this test may already be lost now

Need to skittle the Aussies out for a lead less than 280/290 I think.

Australia should just take their time to get to a score of 250+ then have a day and a half at least to win the game.