Transfer Rumour Bobby Clark (2 Viewers)

PVA

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We don’t need an ‘enforcer’ we just need a little extra competition so that we don’t ever had to play Jamie Allen as a sitting midfielder again.

Eccles and Sheaf are both brilliant ballwinners, among the best in the division.

Eccles made 2 tackles in 30 minutes. Allen and Torp made 0 between them in a combined 150 minutes.
 

Otis

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Physicality isn't everything, but at the same time, you don't want players who can get knocked off the ball too easily, or get outmuscled time and time again.

For all the pluses, it's the downside of Jamie Allen.
 

Sky Blue Wozza

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This thread reminds me of the time my Dad started playing Champ Man with me in the late 90s.

He set up as Liverpool, playing a strict 4-4-2, with a “hard man” in midfield and “a big man and a little man” upfront.

He started the season with Terry Hurlock, Ian Ormondroyd and Tony Cottee. He was sacked 6 games in, bemoaning the “likes of Arsene bloody Wenger”
 

SwanLane

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Sheaf and Eccles, fit and on form, have enough aggression to have dealt with that Stoke midfield. I see what Robins did as a gamble that failed. He thought it would be ok and that Allen’s energy and Torp’s passing would be enough. We all saw the result of that.

We need a player who can drop deep if needed, be aggressive and seek to dominate the ball and the opposition. Not bothered if that’s called an enforcer, a nasty bastard, a CDM, a 4/6/8 or a deep-lying playmaker.
 

SIR ERNIE

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A Liam Kelly 2.0
always remember the job he did when he was called on for the last few games of 22/23, the ability to read the game, sense the danger, sit deep and calm things down when necessary.
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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Sorry, and I know I’ll get the usual abuse for this, but Josh Eccles isn’t in the same category as Ben Sheaf and isn’t strong enough in that position on his own…

He showed that in his cameo on Saturday.

Would I have played him from the start instead of Allen? probably, yes….would it have made any difference? on the basis of his performance after he came on, probably not

We are desperately desperately missing at least one more strong holding midfielder, who can do the dirty work, break play up, pass the ball progressively and get us going up the pitch - a Sheaf and / or a Hamer type.

Allen cannot start another game as a holding midfielder, and Eccles needs somebody else alongside him, he’s not good enough on his own
 

ptr

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A Liam Kelly 2.0
always remember the job he did when he was called on for the last few games of 22/23, the ability to read the game, sense the danger, sit deep and calm things down when necessary.
Exactly this, and when he won it back he didn’t overcomplicate it…just gave it to the players that could play.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Sorry, and I know I’ll get the usual abuse for this, but Josh Eccles isn’t in the same category as Ben Sheaf and isn’t strong enough in that position on his own…

He showed that in his cameo on Saturday.

Would I have played him from the start instead of Allen? probably, yes….would it have made any difference? on the basis of his performance after he came on, probably not

We are desperately desperately missing at least one more strong holding midfielder, who can do the dirty work, break play up, pass the ball progressively and get us going up the pitch - a Sheaf and / or a Hamer type.

Allen cannot start another game as a holding midfielder, and Eccles needs somebody else alongside him, he’s not good enough on his own
This is the issue, in a 4-3-3 I think Allen’s energy would of done a job but he’s not and has never been a holding midfielder he doesn’t have the strength to do it. Would love to see us look at the Peterborough CM as a understudy for sheaf and stick with a 4-3-3 or move to a 4-4-2
 

StrettoBoy

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Stephen warnock just said on sky sports news that Bobby Clarke is off to RB Leipzig this week!..

Isn’t it RB Salzburg?

 

skybluecam

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Physicality isn't everything, but at the same time, you don't want players who can get knocked off the ball too easily, or get outmuscled time and time again.

For all the pluses, it's the downside of Jamie Allen.
What exactly is the plus side of Allen?
 

blunted

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We don’t need an ‘enforcer’ we just need a little extra competition so that we don’t ever had to play Jamie Allen as a sitting midfielder again.

Eccles and Sheaf are both brilliant ballwinners, among the best in the division.

Eccles made 2 tackles in 30 minutes. Allen and Torp made 0 between them in a combined 150 minutes.
In our two competitive games so far we have been alarmingly open in the centre of the pitch which puts pressure on the back line. Whether it is the absence of Sheaf, Eccles, looking below par, our new tactics or the wrong personal we really need to tighten up. We played a Stoke side with no recognised strikers and Bristol with their second choice players and they both had way too many chances. Good strikers would have buried us.
 

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