cc84cov
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Yep are they hoping to hit people for damages to fund the new stadium...100% we need to build the stadium
Yep are they hoping to hit people for damages to fund the new stadium...100% we need to build the stadiumThis is exactly what people need to get their head around, if wasps go bust the Ricoh goes back to the council and there is no way in hell they would sell it to sisu and I'm certain sisu are very aware of this now as well
We were a selling club long before Sisu came along.
Yep are they hoping to hit people for damages to fund the new stadium...100% we need to build the stadium
Exactly the same here, the best we could ever hope for is another loaded rental deal
Agree that from a negotiation standpoint, it is smart for SISU to give the appearance of having other options in Coventry. But that doesn't mean it's SISU's end goal. Why did they buy CCFC in the first place?
100% we can’t deal with CCC we seemed to be about to burn all bridges with wasps question is are SISU about building the stadiumWhich is why a partnership with Warwick Uni (or even Coventry Uni) is a great idea.
Huge institutions, with
The situation has changed materially from 2008.
For arguments sake, let’s work on the following assumptions:
1) new stadium plans yet another ruse
2) EU complaint successful
3) resulting in Wasps leaving Coventry
In this scenario, the RICOH reverts back to CCC control. No progress has been made on this ‘partnership’ with UoW. How does Coventry come to own the RICOH?
We would still have to negotiate with CCC, and in this scenario, it’s inconceivable the relationship between CCFC and CCC would be better off. How do we agree a price for the RICOH? The CCC showed no willingness to sell their share to CCFC before all this kicked off.
Regardless of their intentions in 2008. Since the the sale of the RICOH to Wasps, it makes the most sense to give up on the aspiration of owning the RICOH and building our own stadium.
I understand the anger and the feeling of wanting to do something about it.....but all this talk of removing bricks and statues is playing right in to the hands of the people we disagree with most. Do you think the Trust will back you up in the media? Do you think the CET will paint you as victims of CCC and W*sps’ bullshit?
All it will do is give these Twitter and FB trolls ammunition and recruitment fodder.
If you want your voice heard, make a bold statement from this forum and when fans are allowed back in - GO AND SUPPORT THE TEAM.
After all that’s happened, anyone still stuck in the Sixfields days needs to be left behind anyway. They are toxic and terminal.
Which is why a partnership with Warwick Uni (or even Coventry Uni) is a great idea.
Huge institutions, with huge amounts of land, with ambitions to develop.
The situation has changed materially from 2008.
For arguments sake, let’s work on the following assumptions:
1) new stadium plans yet another ruse
2) EU complaint successful
3) resulting in Wasps leaving Coventry
In this scenario, the RICOH reverts back to CCC control. No progress has been made on this ‘partnership’ with UoW. How does Coventry come to own the RICOH?
We would still have to negotiate with CCC, and in this scenario, it’s inconceivable the relationship between CCFC and CCC would be better off. How do we agree a price for the RICOH? The CCC showed no willingness to sell their share to CCFC before all this kicked off.
Regardless of their intentions in 2008. Since the the sale of the RICOH to Wasps, it makes the most sense to give up on the aspiration of owning the RICOH and building our own stadium.
Even if the EU complaint is successful, I can’t see how SISU would be able to buy the RICOH. The relationship between the CCC and CCFC is completely broken.
Factor in the desire for the CCC to make the Wasps project successful. It would probably be easier for the club to build a new stadium.
The situation has changed since 2008, but also hasn't changed materially since 2014 and Wasps coming in! If SISU saw that as the death knell for any deal with the council, we should be a lot further along with a new stadium - after all, what hope would there be for anything else?
SISU thought they could wear down the council and get control of the Ricoh. They almost managed it, but now it turns out they have to wear down Wasps as well. That's fine, they're up to the fight, even if it takes longer than expected. They'll continue to negotiate and wait for someone to cave. Suggesting that we are making plans for a new stadium is a key part of making sure that process continues. Actually going ahead and building the damn thing is a surefire way of ensuring it doesn't.
Straight answer please:
Do you think CCC would allow Coventry City to build another stadium in their jurisdiction?
Again, we know the club has been in talks with UoW regarding a potential partnership since 2014.
If progress is made on this project over the next year, we could safely say SISU have almost certainly given up on the RICOH as a first choice option.
They haven't exactly rushed if that was the case...Again, we know the club has been in talks with UoW regarding a potential partnership since 2014.
Yes.
If progress is made, then I agree the Ricoh appears to be Plan B. But I'll believe it when I see it. Joint statements don't cut it.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that after six years (!) of talks with UoW, we only got news of this latest new stadium project a few days before we learned the latest round of Ricoh negotiations were collapsing.
Yes.
If progress is made, then I agree the Ricoh appears to be Plan B. But I'll believe it when I see it. Joint statements don't cut it.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that after six years (!) of talks with UoW, we only got news of this latest new stadium project a few days before we learned the latest round of Ricoh negotiations were collapsing.
Absolutely no way CCC will allow City to build a Stadium in their jurisdiction,Yes.
If progress is made, then I agree the Ricoh appears to be Plan B. But I'll believe it when I see it. Joint statements don't cut it.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that after six years (!) of talks with UoW, we only got news of this latest new stadium project a few days before we learned the latest round of Ricoh negotiations were collapsing.
They haven't exactly rushed if that was the case...
You're seriously suggesting, six years and this statement is as far as they've got?We don’t know of any sticking points in negotiations and so on, but it’s out there now.
You're seriously suggesting, six years and this statement is as far as they've got?
Best look forward to an ground in 2045 then.
Seemingly nor is making a statement about how they'd like some land.Planning a stadium isn’t exactly an easy task that can be completed overnight.
You're seriously suggesting, six years and this statement is as far as they've got?
Best look forward to an ground in 2045 then.
Seemingly nor is making a statement about how they'd like some land.
How about Rotherham's ground taking for years?The site for Brighton’s AMEX stadium was found in 1998-99. The stadium was completed in 2011.
I’ve not said it’s acceptable that it’s taken this long. We are where we are and looking at the past doesn’t really do anything for us.
Sarcastic comments are one thing, but at least there’s something out there we can scrutinise.
We’ll know more later when there is progress or lack thereof.
How about Rotherham's ground taking for years?
Brighton had also applied for planning permission after three years.
We've released a statement in twice that time. So if you want a comparison...
Like Lewes District Council you mean?It’s not exactly like we’ve got a supportive local council to help us in the pursuit of building a new stadium though, is it?
Just a couple of points, Wasps say they weren't consulted before the UoW announcement by the Club, but what the fuck was it to do with them?
Same amount of time for the trust to do anything useful but you'll still go to meetings and tell us to wait and see.You're seriously suggesting, six years and this statement is as far as they've got?
Best look forward to an ground in 2045 then.
Ah, beautiful whataboutery whereas I did, not talked. I went to try and enact change, same as the Wasps protest. Both failed but at least I wasn't empty hot air bitching into a void. Must be doing something right when I'm SISU sympathiser to some, Trust stooge to others.Same amount of time for the trust to do anything useful but you'll still go to meetings and tell us to wait and see.
Thmm
Hang on, you think that CCC would let sisu build another stadium within their boundaries? If so can I please have some of what you are smoking, there is no chance in hell that CCC will allow another stadium to be built whilst the Ricoh still stands, that's why sisu have had to go to Warwick council for the land, please keep up
Look a man with a touched nerve.Ah, beautiful whataboutery whereas I did, not talked. I went to try and enact change, same as the Wasps protest. Both failed but at least I wasn't empty hot air bitching into a void. Must be doing something right when I'm SISU sympathiser to some, Trust stooge to others.
You know the argument's lost when people are residing to dog=cat.
Seriously, this place is going mental over a statement when we've had loads of those over the years. It's like groundhog Day and the onus is to give something substantive more than we've had before. It's not asking much after seven years.
THIS is my worry. I am not sure they will allow a Warwick stadium to go aheadAbsolutely no way CCC will allow City to build a Stadium in their jurisdiction,
They will try their absolute hardest to put any spanner in the works of a potential Stadium in the warwick District Council area too....
Ah, beautiful whataboutery whereas I did, not talked. I went to try and enact change, same as the Wasps protest. Both failed but at least I wasn't empty hot air bitching into a void. Must be doing something right when I'm SISU sympathiser to some, Trust stooge to others.
You know the argument's lost when people are residing to dog=cat.
Seriously, this place is going mental over a statement when we've had loads of those over the years. It's like groundhog Day and the onus is to give something substantive more than we've had before. It's not asking much after seven years.
They can't stop it, ultimately. First it needs some plans to object to, however...THIS is my worry. I am not sure they will allow a Warwick stadium to go ahead
If SISU don't know that the best way of getting people to believe is to do rather than say, they never will. It doesn't need a polite email for that to be obvious.We’re ALL guilty of not doing anything to make ANYONE good on their word.
The Trust was/is tilted and burned their bridges long ago. But we, as a forum, now have a voice and a line of communication with ownership. Rather than quibble about the validity of the latest stadium ‘project’, let’s use our collective voice to let SISU know that we will need to see what tangible progress they are (or aren’t) making.
SISU have put themselves at the plate. This time we need to apply whatever pressure we can to make them accountable for their words.
I agree sisu need to show us substantial evidenceThey can't stop it, ultimately. First it needs some plans to object to, however...
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