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Breaking News - Judge kicks out SISU's judicial review against CCC / ACL (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Aug 6, 2013
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Nsgdm1

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #71
covcity4life said:
yeah fuck coventry city f.c!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Haven't SISU already done that ????????????????????????????????????????????

We are a.c.l say we are a.c.l!
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no one is saying fuck Coventry City FC it would be great if they came back to the Ricoh, but why would anyone bend over backwards to help SISU the way they conduct business , a judge has confirmed that they tried to distress ACL and get the Ricoh on the cheap, don't think SISU have CCFC any more a priority in their interests any more than ACL
 

The Penguin

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #72
Nsgdm1 said:
If I was ACL I would be hard in negotiations now see how SISU like it, SISU were offered £150000 a year on condition of signing CVA and dropping court case ,now CVA hasn't been signed(loosing ACL £590000) and court case has been thrown out I would say to Timmy and Joyless when they come begging ,sorry the price just doubled with 5 years in advance.
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Though I understand the sentiment, that doesn't really benefit the football club, does it?

I'd like the rent to be as low as possible myself.
 

WiganSkyBlue

Member
  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #73
jesus-wept said:
I could never see the grounds for the case. I am no legal eagle by any means but the £14million is a loan at a cheaper rate than the Yorkshire Loan, so it is a win win situation ACL save money and in time ccc earn money and this is allowed by central Government.
If sisu do appeal it will be interesting on what grounds.
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I think it has to be on points of law, ie that the Judge has overlooked some aspect of relevant legislation. Given the publicity locally that I am sure would have been brought to his attention, I would expect that he will have ensured that all i's have been dotted and t's crossed.

Additionally, the statement released by CCC is made by both parties so this shows that the whole council is united in their opposition to these asset strippers.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #74
torchomatic said:
Doubt it means anything has changed in respect of us returning to the Ricoh. I await the next ridiculous Fisher statement.
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It is going to be interesting what Fishtwat is going to say. Properly blame the judge for the liquidation of the club. But on a serous note our owners must really starting to worry. ACL/CCC can really go after our owners now. They are no longer gaged and can put a lot more evidence into the public domain.
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #75
I think the chances of ACL getting the lost rent have gone with the Administration.

FWIW, and just mho etc., I think rather than crowing this is where ACL should offer the olive branch.

Come back home, take the £150k deal (which must mean ACL making a loss), and let's talk slowly and calmly about what you need in terms of access to revenue streams, what you can afford, and what we can give you.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #76
torchomatic said:
Or use that as a means to get the Club back at the Ricoh. On ACLs terms.
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Would push like button, but on my pad.
 

skybluepm2

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #77
It was a straw clutch in the 1st place if ever I've seen one...I wonder what Tim 'Let's be absolutely clear' Fishcake will be conjuring up now as his next avenue of bollocks.

'Hmm, that didn't work, but those idiots at the Football League still believe that we are going to return to Coventry in 3 years...oops sorry I extended it to 5 on the sly.'
 
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jesus-wept

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #78
WiganSkyBlue said:
Additionally, the statement released by CCC is made by both parties so this shows that the whole council is united in their opposition to these asset strippers.
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This seems to be constantly ignored by those bitter against ACL/and the Council. I am not saying there is no case to answer regards acl or ccc but this has consistently been an all party stance
 
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valiant15

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #79
How many olive branches do they need to give sisu for god sake?? Sisu don't want to play at the Ricoh,end of story. Im even starting to feel that i dont want ccfc back if sisu are still in charge.
 
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valiant15

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #80
It just doesn't feel like ccfc for me anymore. When sisu go I'm sure the love will return.
 

The Penguin

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #81
skybluehugh said:
They are no longer gaged and can put a lot more evidence into the public domain.
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I would love for that to happen. Get everything out there, even if it implicates ACL/CCC in any way.

We deserve to know the full extent of what exactly has been happening at our football club.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #82
oldskyblue58 said:
even awarded costs to Council & ACL I believe - so SISU get to pay for the experience

Assuming they dont get leave to appeal by Thursday
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I think that the strength of the judgement may well but a block on them appealing it. And as you say the costs to them will get huge, do they have the money to keep dragging it out?
 

The Penguin

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #83
valiant15 said:
How many olive branches do they need to give sisu for god sake?? Sisu don't want to play at the Ricoh,end of story. Im even starting to feel that i dont want ccfc back if sisu are still in charge.
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To play devil's advocate, I think all anyone who is suggesting this as a course of action really wants is CCFC back in Coventry. I agree with you that they have had plenty of chances to do the right thing by CCFC, and have failed at almost every turn (though, and I don't care what flak I cop for this, I completely agree with their desire to have the club run sustainably and sensibly.)

All many of us really want though is Cov in Cov.

Respect your feelings though and, to some degree, I share them.
 

WiganSkyBlue

Member
  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #84
True Sky Blue not posting as she is currently in America seething that her puppy, Timmy, has fued up the JR.
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #85
valiant15 said:
How many olive branches do they need to give sisu for god sake?? Sisu don't want to play at the Ricoh,end of story. Im even starting to feel that i dont want ccfc back if sisu are still in charge.
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Mate, I know where you're coming from. No one hates SISU more than I do, but if there's a chance of getting the team back to Coventry and having an honest negotiation I'd urge everyone to go for it.

SISU must know they're done now. They're not going to get the Ricoh for nowt. Getting the team on a stable footing and back on reasonable terms with ACL would give them a half-decent chance of selling up and moving on and cutting their losses. Better for everyone, especially us, surely.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #86
duffer said:
Mate, I know where you're coming from. No one hates SISU more than I do, but if there's a chance of getting the team back to Coventry and having an honest negotiation I'd urge everyone to go for it.
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Have to keep pushing for them all to talk to each other anyway.

if they don't, what's lost in trying?
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #87
RogerH said:
Wonder if ACL will sue SISU for the "unlawfully withheld rent" ?

Time somebody put SISU on the back foot and tried to distress them. Might force them out.
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I bloody hope they do. It would be nice to see the shoe on the other foot. And as the judge has said the rent was lawful it shouldn't take hat long.
 

duffer

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #88
skybluehugh said:
I bloody hope they do. It would be nice to see the shoe on the other foot. And as the judge has said the rent was lawful it shouldn't take hat long.
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I take your point, but I think they've done it Hugh. That was the point of the administration.

It was always accepted that there was a debt, it was just that CCFC Ltd apparently didn't have enough money to pay it, having mysteriously run up debts of £60m and having (seemingly) no assets.
 

Danceswithhorses

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #89
Much as i want ccfc at the ricoh, the situation is frankly bizarre.
In any other environment, would any reasonable landlord, having been screwed over by a tenant, and still owed a shed load of money, give them a new rental contract ?
Hats off to ACL if they can forgive and forget SISU's appalling behaviour.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #90
Deleted member 5849 said:
Seriously...

READ WHAT I SAY BEFORE DECIDING ON MY BEHALF OR STFU WITH THE STUPID PETTY COMMENTS!
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I have read and been slagged of in plenty of what you have written. It is just nice to have my and others views that ACL/CCC acted lawfully in what they have done.

YOU HAVE CONSTANTLY STATED THAT ACL/CCC WERE IN THE WRONG, WELL THE HCJ DISAGREES WITH YOU AND THEM.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #91
Nsgdm1 said:
no one is saying fuck Coventry City FC it would be great if they came back to the Ricoh, but why would anyone bend over backwards to help SISU the way they conduct business , a judge has confirmed that they tried to distress ACL and get the Ricoh on the cheap, don't think SISU have CCFC any more a priority in their interests any more than ACL
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Where does this leave our move to NT. Their chairman must be a worried man this morning.
 
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valiant15

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #92
duffer said:
Mate, I know where you're coming from. No one hates SISU more than I do, but if there's a chance of getting the team back to Coventry and having an honest negotiation I'd urge everyone to go for it.

SISU must know they're done now. They're not going to get the Ricoh for nowt. Getting the team on a stable footing and back on reasonable terms with ACL would give them a half-decent chance of selling up and moving on and cutting their losses. Better for everyone, especially us, surely.
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I agree.
 
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valiant15

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #93
The Penguin said:
To play devil's advocate, I think all anyone who is suggesting this as a course of action really wants is CCFC back in Coventry. I agree with you that they have had plenty of chances to do the right thing by CCFC, and have failed at almost every turn (though, and I don't care what flak I cop for this, I completely agree with their desire to have the club run sustainably and sensibly.)

All many of us really want though is Cov in Cov.

Respect your feelings though and, to some degree, I share them.
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I agree.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #94
skybluehugh said:
I have read and been slagged of in plenty of what you have written. It is just nice to have my and others views that ACL/CCC acted lawfully in what they have done.

YOU HAVE CONSTANTLY STATED THAT ACL/CCC WERE IN THE WRONG, WELL THE HCJ DISAGREES WITH YOU AND THEM.
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NO I HAVEN'T!

Christ, seriously, given you appear determined to further this personal campaign, you really are a thick twat if you can't even be bothered to read the words I write.

stfu until you're prepared to, so just ignore me and just sod off please instead of making it personal for reasons best known to yourself.

Turning against your own! Moron.

It's idiots like you determined to get a game of one-upmanship who kill the club!

SHITZU!!!!!!!!!
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #95
duffer said:
I think the chances of ACL getting the lost rent have gone with the Administration.

FWIW, and just mho etc., I think rather than crowing this is where ACL should offer the olive branch.

Come back home, take the £150k deal (which must mean ACL making a loss), and let's talk slowly and calmly about what you need in terms of access to revenue streams, what you can afford, and what we can give you.
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I would love to see OUR club back in the City of Coventry but ACL/CCC should give no ground to our owners. Coventry City can only get back on it's feet with new people at the helm. The only way that will happen is by ACL now distressing Shitsu by making them continue to haemorrhage money in Northhampton.
 
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Dhinsa's_Millions

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #96
deanocity3 said:
Quantim of Sisu
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Casino Joyale.
 
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CovFan

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #97
Statement from the club http://mobile.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-060813-971908.aspx?pd=635113872830000000
Might need your reading glasses for this one, it is long.
 

deanocity3

New Member
  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #98
CovFan said:
Statement from the club http://mobile.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-060813-971908.aspx?pd=635113872830000000
Might need your reading glasses for this one, it is long.
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Cheers COVFAN
Short statement following this morning's Judicial Review ruling

Coventry City Football Club has noted the ruling by Mr Justice Males on the Judicial Review and will consider the decision before taking its next steps
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #99
duffer said:
I take your point, but I think they've done it Hugh. That was the point of the administration.

It was always accepted that there was a debt, it was just that CCFC Ltd apparently didn't have enough money to pay it, having mysteriously run up debts of £60m and having (seemingly) no assets.
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But and I know it is a big BUT, if it can be proven hat our owners DID move assets from one to the other then ACL/CCC can go after Shitsu not just the club company's . Well I hope so anyway.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #100
Deleted member 5849 said:
NO I HAVEN'T!

Christ, seriously, given you appear determined to further this personal campaign, you really are a thick twat if you can't even be bothered to read the words I write.

stfu until you're prepared to, so just ignore me and just sod off please instead of making it personal for reasons best known to yourself.

Turning against your own! Moron.

It's idiots like you determined to get a game of one-upmanship who kill the club!

SHITZU!!!!!!!!!
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Temper, temper.

Please review your replies to my posts and THEN tell me who made this personal. Thank you.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #101
Dhinsa's_Millions said:
Casino Joyale.
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Moneyracker
 

skyblueinBaku

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #102
torchomatic said:
Doubt it means anything has changed in respect of us returning to the Ricoh. I await the next ridiculous Fisher statement.
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I'm sure you won't have too long to wait, Torchy. Because he makes so many of them, it seems to me that Mr Fisher actually enjoys making ridiculous statements.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #103
CovFan said:
Statement from the club http://mobile.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-060813-971908.aspx?pd=635113872830000000
Might need your reading glasses for this one, it is long.
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You little liar you
 

Sisued

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  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #104
skybluehugh said:
Moneyracker
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goldsharer
 
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skybluehugh

New Member
  • Aug 6, 2013
  • #105
Sisued said:
goldsharer
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If only she was, we wouldn't be in this mess
 
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