No, that would have been: not you, of course..;-)
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No, that would have been: not you, of course..;-)
Really..... Every time I point something out to you and co., you come screaming out of the internet. Some people who are out come in and go out, then come in again to say that they are definitely out.....
Astute
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Screaming?
Mainly pointing out where you are wrong. You seem to think that you know more about the UK than people living in it. You constantly accuse people of being racist for being worried about the people already here and homeless.
I keep coming onto this thread each time I get an alert telling me that you have made another uneducated/EU biased comment. And you haven't let me down once yet.
Yes, really uneducated...... No I don't know more than someone living in the UK, but I am there several times a year and I can read articles........no I haven't called you racist although you keep trying to twist "not you" into "yes you". I don't get that, but maybe it helps your argument.
Sky Blue Kid
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Fuck it! I'm definately in now. All you've done is spout shit! you've NOT lived in this Country for over 15 years(Hence can't vote) yet know what's best for us Brits that ACTUALLY live here. You are only concerned that it might cost you and your business more money without us by paying a bigger share into the "Gravy Train" called the EU. I would hazzard a guess that is the only reason "Sickboy" is batting his gums about the UK staying in the EU! he's made it clear he doesn't want to live in the UK anymore. Could it be you're worried that a "Brexit" might damage your "European rights" to stay in Germany/Italy/Spain/France? A lot of grumbling going on especially in Spain and France about it.
Sky Blue Kid
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I go to the shitter every day but don't claim to know how a sewage system works... Although I can read articles about it!
Do you know how to flush it?
Sky Blue Kid
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I am applying for German citizenship anyway. My family live in England and my daughter is at school in England. I still go to City games now and again... even though the owners are unpopular. I didn't stop being a Brit when I left England. As regards spouting shit, you seem to be an expert in it. Might learn something from you after all.
Astute
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He gives the EU 130m a week so they can tell him how to do it.
Sky Blue Kid
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Give Aunty Angela(Merkel) a big kiss from all of us Brits...Oh! btw when you get your German Citizenship...Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out
Astute
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Fair play to you.
You had better start grafting so you can make up for the money that the UK won't be putting into the EU in the next couple of years
Fair play to you.
You had better start grafting so you can make up for the money that the UK won't be putting into the EU in the next couple of years
No, I will just spend my euros in England. I am 20% richer now in pounds.....
Just by your own admittance then Mart perhaps you haven't noticed the amount of people on ridiculous low wages, zero hours contracts, small firms competing with Eastern Europeans for plumbing, building and other household type work. Perhaps you haven't noticed the spiralling rates of knife crime, drug use and supply and other criminality. Foreigners stealing and butchering livestock in the backs of transit vans straight from their fields. Perhaps you haven't noticed school places being squeezed, class sizes rising, hospitals at breaking point, ridiculous road congestion and a rise in RTC's, not to mention house building everywhere, growing pollution and councils pleading poverty and cutting back on street cleaning, lighting, grass cutting , social care etc.
This is far from all the fault of the 250,000 new people we receive every year but by God they don't ease the issues.
This is far from all the fault of the 250,000 new people we receive every year but by God they don't ease the issues.
I agree they don't help matters, but it is not as simple as blaming them for everything. At the weekend, I had a team of 1 Pole, 1 Rumanian, 1 German and 1 Irish person. I pay everyone the going rate - they all do a good job. All above the minimum wage. Unfortunately, not every employer thinks like that.
Sky Blue Kid
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Genuine question here... Does you or your wife claim "Child tax credits"... "Working Family Tax Credits"... Do you claim "Married Tax relief" in Germany though your family don't live with you?
I don't blame any of them individually either, but collectively we cannot cope with these numbers being uncontrolled. We need to sift through, to look for genuine refugees and introduce a points system for all the others to ensure they will not become a drain, or pose a risk.
Sky Blue Kid
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You've made another fabulous save there Mart... Championship Clubs are now chasing you!
I would have thought that if I had the balls to squabble with you lot, that I wouldn't be looking for extras. I am self employed and don't get anything apart from over expensive tax assessments ..... and child allowance. I don't get that actually, the child's mother gets my share because the child is registered living at her house - although I pay her keep in the UK. She is counted as living in Germany as she is at school and intends coming home at the end of the school year. The mother ( my ex girlfriend) hasn't sent a penny to England yet and I cannot force her to pay anything- although when my kid was in Germany my ex could force me to pay maintenance. At 18, my daughter can force her mother to pass on the child benefit whilst she is at school in the UK. I am not married to the mother or my partner, so as I say, I get nothing.
Astute
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Who has blamed who for everything?
Germany is a massive country compared to the UK. But you want us to magic the full infrastructure to take everyone who wants to come here and build everywhere. It is going to take a very long time just to catch up with what we already have. And the house builders are just sitting on land banks watching the value go up whilst building the minimum amount of houses to keep the prices high. If they built them they would sell. But prices are so high because of the demand.
It would be easy for me to go to Germany and not see any problems. Would I then think everything is perfect and that they have room for millions more people?
House prices are high here. They are building high end properties because that is where the money is. Are you saying I am unaware of what is going on in the U.K.? I have family there and do see some things when I am there. I am not totally living in a bubble..
Sky Blue Kid
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So you are not paying what you would legally be obliged to pay(Maintenance) Therefore the mother is allowed to claim "Child Benefit"..."Child Tax Credits" over here in the UK?
clint van damme
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what do you do to help your own people?
How do you get there? I have to pay maintenance for my child as she lives at her mother's - normally. And I do pay.
My child (16) is living in the UK whilst she is at school. I pay her keep - board, lodging, pocket money, clothing etc etc.. I have receipts for all that. In effect the mother should be paying a share of the keep to me. She doesn't, but she pockets the child allowance which everone gets. It is calculated as 97,00€ per parent and goes to the parent with the child ( where the child is registered ) if the parents are separated. She gets 194,00€ a month towards the upkeep of the child.
Yes, I am not paying maintenance, but I have the receipts to prove that I am keeping the child in the UK. That costs more than the maintenance and if we went to court, I would claim a share from the mother - won't happen though. She should give some of the 194,00 € towards the costs, but I cannot force her to. I just want her to contribute in some way e.g. extra pocket money for clothing.
The mother lives in Germany and gets child allowance whether she works or not.
Sky Blue Kid
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Nick
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Depends if they are eligible though surely?
He has said the mum keeps the allowance.
Astute
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Most of what you are saying on here points towards you not knowing how bad it is. Just like a lot of people who come from the EU thinking it will be easy to find somewhere to live. But if they come here with young kids they get priority over people born here. It is debatable on if it is right or wrong.
Well I ran a small business and employed people for 14 years and gave them a start and in over 30 years working so far I've contributed lots of tax. I'm no hero I don't pretend to be, we're law abiding, we take care of our elderly neighbours and we give to charities. My wife works in the NHS full time but she has also helped with HCPT in her spare time taking mentally handicapped kids out on trips and holidays through the catholic church. My kids have completed NCS summer schemes, building and improving public spaces etc. We all care passionately about wildlife and nature and do our bit there too.
Sky Blue Kid
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If the child is British, and resident in the UK "Child Benefit""Child tax credit""Working tax credit" is available to the Parent/Guardian of that child. infact IIRC any child resident in the UK.
? How do I get those? I get the child tax credit ( I call it child allowance ) in Germany as I have explained - or rather the mother does. I cannot see how I would get a UK child tax credit if I live and work in Germany.
I and the mother live and work in Germany and get € 194,00 a month tax credit in total. Explain yourself?
Nick
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Doesn't it depend on circumstances etc?
I'm not eligible for anything apart from the £20 a week or whatever it is that everybody gets.
We both live and work in Germany.
clint van damme
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No offence, but I often find people who come out with some of the rhetoric you've been coming out with actually contribute very little themselves.
I have been a long time contributor to a charity that helps children overseas and I have often been told you should help your own first by people who contribute fuck all to anyone but themselves.
Good on you and your family for all of the above.
Sky Blue Kid
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So his daughter lives on her own in the UK then Nick?
The child has dual nationality. If the child is at school in the UK, the Germans count it as temporary residency for education purposes. She is a minor and officially resident with the mother. If she was there permanently, then she wouldn't be registered in Germany and we wouldn't get a child tax credit from Germany.
I am sure one could probably blag something illegally, but I haven't even thought about that. It would be criminal and hardly worth the risk anyway.
Oh, and before you go on about the education, the school/ college gets EU funding for EU students.