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He was going for a lot of flair passes and touches which just weren’t happening. Less is more, but this refusal to shoot in good positions was more frustrating.
He was going for a lot of flair passes and touches which just weren’t happening. Less is more, but this refusal to shoot in good positions was more frustrating.Could say the same for Palmer with the chance where Milan cut it back to him. Why he wanted 47 touches i dont know
My honest thoughts are Palmer on his day is top 2 championship. When hes off form he's bottom 6. His inconsistency is why he never stayed in the top flight and never will
But il say the same for O'Hare. He on top form i feel could probably make a career at a yo yo club, a Burnley, a Leicester etc. But again, his inconsistency for me is why he will never forge a proper premier league career
If we're honest and we really want to give it a shot at autos next season, we need better than both of them
Torp looked good didn’t he, put in that one absolute beaut of a cross. Excited to see how he progresses next year as I think he’s a technically excellent player, just needs to get fully up to speed with intensity of league and role in teamThought he did ok
Torp best sub
Was shouting for him to come on at 55 not 70. Furious he wasnt tbh
But then he came on and did fuck all again so i suppose it didnt matter
He didn't.
But there's a difference between playing poorly and phoning it in. Only an idiot watched that today and thought the latter.
Could say the same for Palmer with the chance where Milan cut it back to him. Why he wanted 47 touches i dont know
My honest thoughts are Palmer on his day is top 2 championship. When hes off form he's bottom 6. His inconsistency is why he never stayed in the top flight and never will
But il say the same for O'Hare. He on top form i feel could probably make a career at a yo yo club, a Burnley, a Leicester etc. But again, his inconsistency for me is why he will never forge a proper premier league career
If we're honest and we really want to give it a shot at autos next season, we need better than both of them
Well out of order.
It’s a difficult game whether or not COH starts or not. He hasn’t done much to earn a start to be honest.If we play the same formation against Leeds I hope common sense prevails and o hare starts or could be a difficult game
Agreed - COH has lost his place because he isn’t impacting games like he was in Dec-Jan. Even then, a few of my mates who are neutrals said the same thing: if he isn’t scoring, he generally isn’t playing that well.
As for Palmer, overplayed a lot today and as good as he can be, he’s probably never going to be a top end Championship AM.
Likewise, I thought our midfield struggled today too. Our passing flickered between being was too cautious and too careless. Thomas and Lati were guilty of this too.
If we play the same formation against Leeds I hope common sense prevails and o hare starts or could be a difficult game
It’s a difficult game whether or not COH starts or not. He hasn’t done much to earn a start to be honest.
MR said Matty Godden picked up a calf injury at Huddersfield, that’s why he wasn’t on the bench today. Doesn’t know how long he will be out.So he's putting him on the bench, bringing him on and bumping Godden, fucking hell.
You're channelling your inner Saddlebrains
If we play the same formation against Leeds I hope common sense prevails and o hare starts or could be a difficult game
A number of passes today were so obvious even Mrs BSB called the interceptions and she’s got nystagmus. We are so much more threatening moving the ball at pace and it’s the antidote to teams wanting to camp in front of the ball.Agree but you missed out one of the biggest offenders Sheaf.
We struggle against sides who are well organised and sit deep. We lack tempo in our passing and telegraph the next pass. When we work it wide we pass up opportunities to cross and force issues (I'm not talking about hoof ball). We seem to lack players who can take on a cross when the ball comes to them for a first time delivery?
He played well against Huddersfield and Wolves so one disappointing performance doesn’t mean we should drop him.Palmer does then?
Agree but you missed out one of the biggest offenders Sheaf.
We struggle against sides who are well organised and sit deep. We lack tempo in our passing and telegraph the next pass. When we work it wide we pass up opportunities to cross and force issues (I'm not talking about hoof ball). We seem to lack players who can take on a cross when the ball comes to them for a first time delivery?
Agreed, I think this remains our weakness. Games feel too open at the moment, especially against poor sides.Agreed on being unable to break organised sides down. I’ve been consistent on this point all season, but we struggle to play through midfield at times. Sheaf was guilty of some poor passing today but at least he went for it. My frustration is that we often dawdle on the balls without causing issues for teams.
Torp had that one promising cross and we need more of that imo.
He doesn't play anymore!It's simple really, Mark Robins is picking Palmer over O'HARA because Callum hasn't signed the contract.
MR said Matty Godden picked up a calf injury at Huddersfield, that’s why he wasn’t on the bench today. Doesn’t know how long he will be out.
I personally don’t see any reason why O’Hare should start in Palmer’s place, he had over 20 minutes against tired legs, and I’m not sure I remember him doing anything of note other than being in and around the box a bit….O'Hare should've been on much earlier. It's hardly fair to judge him on 15 minutes against a side playing 11 behind the ball.
Well, aside from the fact he would be blowing out his arse after 30 minutes and struggled to play 2 games in a row, no.
Agreed on being unable to break organised sides down. I’ve been consistent on this point all season, but we struggle to play through midfield at times. Sheaf was guilty of some poor passing today but at least he went for it. My frustration is that we often dawdle on the balls without causing issues for teams.
Torp had that one promising cross and we need more of that imo.
I was shouting too I can’t believe robins didn’t do it earlier. Turns out it didn’t matterWas shouting for him to come on at 55 not 70. Furious he wasnt tbh
But then he came on and did fuck all again so i suppose it didnt matter
Spot on although Palmer has a higher ceiling than Ohare and id rather keep Palmer as a squad player, but we definitely need to upgrade on Ohare,as fantastic as he has been for us. Ohare is too small (FFS i hope nobody says Messi..) and while i think he is top draw for a top 10 Championship side, i think for clubs with premier League aspirations he is just a squad player in the no.10 role like Palmer is. As you correctly say we now need a no.10 who would be good enough to play regularly in the PL. I know people will say getting that no10 is hard unless you are in the PL, but thats the point, if we want to get there and stay there, this summer we need that player which means spending a bit. There was some talk i think (not sure how accurate it was) in the summer last year linking us with Evander at Portland Timbers.Could say the same for Palmer with the chance where Milan cut it back to him. Why he wanted 47 touches i dont know
My honest thoughts are Palmer on his day is top 2 championship. When hes off form he's bottom 6. His inconsistency is why he never stayed in the top flight and never will
But il say the same for O'Hare. He on top form i feel could probably make a career at a yo yo club, a Burnley, a Leicester etc. But again, his inconsistency for me is why he will never forge a proper premier league career
If we're honest and we really want to give it a shot at autos next season, we need better than both of them
Palmer also gives us a threat aerially. Palmer if he adds consistent end product to his game and consistency is definitely PL standard. Ohare i dont think is, not quite.I personally don’t see any reason why O’Hare should start in Palmer’s place, he had over 20 minutes against tired legs, and I’m not sure I remember him doing anything of note other than being in and around the box a bit….
Palmer played a large part in our goal with his perfectly weighted through ball to MVE, and in the first 20 minutes or so played some great passes through their defence and has recently had a much better link up with Simms and Wright, playing balls they can actually get on the end of and do something with
Also, just a separate point, KP definitely can’t play against Man Utd, and what would we do if COH gets injured before that match too? Aware that’s not a reason to not play him, but a consideration in the mix surely…
He’s 27!Spot on although Palmer has a higher ceiling than Ohare
Agreed, I think this remains our weakness. Games feel too open at the moment, especially against poor sides.
Yes at times need more tempo in our passing and we have a reluctance to cross and work defenders
Not talking hoof ball, just we work it wide and players can't put a first time cross in? Too many touches chance gone go back to half way line. It's frustrating.
So if he turns into a completely different player, who’s consistent and has end product then he’s PL standard? Good to know. Not sure why it’s relevant to us thoughPalmer also gives us a threat aerially. Palmer if he adds consistent end product to his game and consistency is definitely PL standard. Ohare i dont think is, not quite.
Palmer also gives us a threat aerially. Palmer if he adds consistent end product to his game and consistency is definitely PL standard. Ohare i dont think is, not quite.
I wish he’d stop with his weak placed shots that end up with a pass to their keeper like he did in the first half and numerous other occasions. Place it but with some power. His efforts are so weak
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