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Perryccfc

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It's funny though you never bring up that Grendel said hamer wasn't worth 5m and he ended up going for 15m. Why are you scared of him?
Ahhh yea the good old days when Grendal mocked us for saying Hamer was a very good player. Miss those days.
 

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Really? I think he just got a late offer he couldn't refuse - Mark Robins said as much himself. It is obvious Hamer still loves the club.

The trouble is footballers are doing a job and make decisions around their careers.

Fans just view things through fan loyalty to a club and bias. Fans judgement are often tainted by blind devotion and petulance.
We don't know all of the circumstances in any of these deals and never will. But these days not knowing things doesn't seem to stop people expressing their opinions or feeling it's fine to criticise players unjustly.

It's strange how any player leaving us or not signing is just greedy and entirely motivated by money, even when they sign for a team in a higher division or one with much better prospects. And even if they do go for financial reasons, I am sure most of us have changed jobs for a higher salary.
 
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Grendel

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Ahhh yea the good old days when Grendal mocked us for saying Hamer was a very good player. Miss those days.

Glowing positivity all round here

 

Grendel

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Even better!

 

Grendel

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It's funny though you never bring up that Grendel said hamer wasn't worth 5m and he ended up going for 15m. Why are you scared of him?

To be fair you did at least think he and Gyokeres would start bids at £5 million

 

covcity4life

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To be fair you did at least think he and Gyokeres would start bids at £5 million

Don't even know what you think your achieving here. Id rather be 5m(hamer) and 10m(gyok) off 6 months before they left rather than laugh at posters who said we could get 5m for him.
 

Grendel

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Don't even know what you think you’re ell it’s youachieving here. Id rather be 5m(hamer) and 10m(gyok) off 6 months before they left rather than laugh at posters who said we could get 5m for him.

Well it’s you who claims to be always right - you didn’t claim £10 million either
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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We keep going on about the past, move on. Cal O'Hare whether he stays or not won't be the determining factor that gets us promoted, and the proof is in the pudding, just look at the closest we came 2 seasons ago, we did it without O'Hare.

We got to a play off final because of 5 players, Doyle, Mcnally, Sheaf, Hamer and Gyok.


The defensive capabilities of Doyle, Mcnally and Sheaf, coupled with Hamers ability to drive us forward and find Gyok was a simple but effective style we adopted and teams just couldn't find an answer.

O'Hare has never, ever been Coventry City's standout player. We like to romanticise about the way he plays but, yes he passes the eye test but the guy is a mile off Premier League standards.

Hamer was levels above O'Hare ability wise, did Hamer have a stand out season in the Premier Legaue? No.

Cal isn't worth 20/30 grand a week, so if a Leeds United, Burnley, Sheffield United or Luton are silly enough to offer that sort of money for him then my advice to him would be take the money lad. Enjoy trebling your salary, playing half the amount of games and predominantly warming the bench.

This is another Sheaf myth.

During our onslaught to the playoffs, Sheaf was injured for most of it and didn't play. The majority of the games he was out actually coincided with our good form. This was, as you say, also alongside COH being out of the team and Hamer getting further forward, providing a better level of end product.

In the last two seasons our best form has come around a lot when both of the players I have mentioned have been out of the team.
 

ProfessorbyGrace

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This is another Sheaf myth.

During our onslaught to the playoffs, Sheaf was injured for most of it and didn't play. The majority of the games he was out actually coincided with our good form. This was, as you say, also alongside COH being out of the team and Hamer getting further forward, providing a better level of end product.

In the last two seasons our best form has come around a lot when both of the players I have mentioned have been out of the team.
Funnily enough, I can actually see where you’re coming from.

The stats would be interesting to compare. I know that the win percentage with/without Sheaf last season was literally a fine margin.
 

HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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This is another Sheaf myth.

During our onslaught to the playoffs, Sheaf was injured for most of it and didn't play. The majority of the games he was out actually coincided with our good form. This was, as you say, also alongside COH being out of the team and Hamer getting further forward, providing a better level of end product.

In the last two seasons our best form has come around a lot when both of the players I have mentioned have been out of the team.
See id argue that the reason Hamer got forward more was because Gyokeres occupied 2/3 players a game, rather than O’Hare and Sheaf being missing.

we’d have been a lot stronger with them in the team though
 

Grendel

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He's triggered tonight!

It’s not me calling people dumb cunts and frothing - I just think you are funny as you trip yourself up than get angry then look just ridiculous. sarcasm I suppose is better then a pretend cousin.
 

covcity4life

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It’s not me calling people dumb cunts and frothing - I just think you are funny as you trip yourself up than get angry then look just ridiculous. sarcasm I suppose is better then a pretend cousin.
I don't trip up. It's hilarious that you think a catchphrase is so serious.
 

Grendel

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I don't trip up. It's hilarious that you think a catchphrase is so serious.

I assumed your claim Dabo was worth £10 million was the sarcasm. So you actually meant that.

it gets worse.
 

blunted

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You never know, but I'm pretty sure O'Hare will be leaving because a football career is short and doubling your money is a no brainer. That is why we have been buying players from League 1 and abroad increasing their salaries. That's one of the reasons why we lost out to Forest recently.
MR has always said he wants Callum to stay and that indicates his value to the team in the eyes of the manager. Apparently we offered to make him one of the highest earners at the club. We cannot compete with Prem wages or teams with parachute payments. Doesn't mean Callum is suddenly a bad player who has no loyalty. The club would love to keep him.
Like Hamer, I think Callum loves the club but money will always win out for most players.
Incidentally, Hamer was voted Sheff Utd player of the season and they have indicated they want him to stay. Here's hoping he moves on and we earn more money.
 

Grendel

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covcity4life

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These are the specific four words the psychiatrists report will identify as beginning of my slide into madness.

You. Can’t. Take. A. Team. Statistic. And. Apply. It. To. An. Individual.
Harry kane cost Bayern the bundesliga mate didn't you know?
 
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This is another Sheaf myth.

During our onslaught to the playoffs, Sheaf was injured for most of it and didn't play. The majority of the games he was out actually coincided with our good form. This was, as you say, also alongside COH being out of the team and Hamer getting further forward, providing a better level of end product.

In the last two seasons our best form has come around a lot when both of the players I have mentioned have been out of the team.
This is actually true.

I rate Sheaf and always have done but it does seem true that we tend to have done better when he has been injured. It is a strange phenomenon.
 

fatso

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We don't know all of the circumstances in any of these deals and never will. But these days not knowing things doesn't seem to stop people expressing their opinions or feeling it's fine to criticising players unjustly.

It's strange how any player leaving us or not signing is just greedy and entirely motivated by money, even when they sign for a team in a higher division or one with much better prospects. And even if they do go for financial reasons, I am sure most of us have changed jobs for a higher salary.
Yep, funny how we are more than happy to sign players from lower league teams and offer them more money. That's totally fine.

If we sign EMC or Rudoni etc because they want a step up and more money, then we can hardly criticise if O'hare or Sheaf do the same.

That's football, every player is looking to maximise their earning potential, and that means climbing the ladder to the Premier league.

In the case of O'hare, he played his part in getting us back into the championship, he cost us nothing, and we had a chance (allegedly) to extend his contract when he came back from injury. But We've moved on now, i believe weve improved, so good luck to the lad wherever he ends up.
 

Deity

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Yep, funny how we are more than happy to sign players from lower league teams and offer them more money. That's totally fine.

If we sign EMC or Rudoni etc because they want a step up and more money, then we can hardly criticise if O'hare or Sheaf do the same.

That's football, every player is looking to maximise their earning potential, and that means climbing the ladder to the Premier league.

In the case of O'hare, he played his part in getting us back into the championship, he cost us nothing, and we had a chance (allegedly) to extend his contract when he came back from injury. But We've moved on now, i believe weve improved, so good luck to the lad wherever he ends up.
From the moment he came back COH has deflected questions about signing a new deal …. He had no desire to stay.
 

fatso

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From the moment he came back COH has deflected questions about signing a new deal …. He had no desire to stay.
That's his perogative. I'm sure his agent has been advising him to keep his options open.

Funny thing is, he wouldn't be guaranteed a start here now.
 

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