Can / will anybody stop them? (1 Viewer)

bluesky88

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So for SISU everything seems to be going to plan.
Refuse to talk to ACL unless they sign the CVA (which will stop any further investigations into the murky waters that is CCFC Ltd).
If ACL sign the CVA SISU will agree to a meeting but with no intent on sorting anything out and continue the Northampton fiasco.
The new stadium is pie in the sky - they will wait 3 to 5 years for ACL to go into admin and then purchase the Ricoh at a knock down price.
They will cream off all the profits from concerts etc for their own pockets.
The football team will be back in Coventry playing at the Ricoh probably playing in League 1 / 2 but with everything run on a shoestring budget.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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Football is secondary now and always has been. This has always been a strategy to get the Ricoh at a knock down price, while they engineered this they have taken money out from the club to keep them going whilst their long term plan hatches. A forensic investigation of the accounts has to be undertaken at the earliest possible time so sharks like SISU don't get away with it, after all you work hard to afford to support our club. That money, as a supporter, you would hope is being used wisely to give you back the best possible team on the pitch, not to keep faceless entities in a lifestyle they have become accustomed too.
 

TheOldFive

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Sounds about right to me.
Can't see a way it can be stopped.
And it's a more acceptable end game than most I can imagine right at the moment.
So why don't we let them get on with it and get behind them? That surely means the quicker ACL go down the better, saves more investment in this distraction play about building a new ground, brings the club back to the Ricoh in the shortest space of time - happy days all round.
In all seriousness probably the most realistic and quickest way to bring Coventry City back to playing in Coventry. Can anyone suggest otherwise?
 

Samo

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Sounds about right to me.
Can't see a way it can be stopped.
And it's a more acceptable end game than most I can imagine right at the moment.
So why don't we let them get on with it and get behind them? That surely means the quicker ACL go down the better, saves more investment in this distraction play about building a new ground, brings the club back to the Ricoh in the shortest space of time - happy days all round.
In all seriousness probably the most realistic and quickest way to bring Coventry City back to playing in Coventry. Can anyone suggest otherwise?

You're the kind of spineless tool who'd have been right behind the Germans had they won the war right? Always in bed with the winner. Shit like this is the reason SISU can win.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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I'm sorry to say this guys(and girls), but, anyone who thinks this is to do with football, has got rocks in their head! whilst some posters have hinted, and one or two have put scenarios in place, there are a lot stating "Dodgy goings on" are afoot. I'm resigned to never watching CCFC play in Coventry again, unless that is, there is major intervention from Government officials, FA and FL. Why else would a business be £70m+ in debt, and yet still hold on to a major loss making venture. Unless that venture is either a) making money, b) have a business similar to Mr Papadopolus(Eastenders) allegedly!
 

shy_tall_knight

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Having worked for a company taken over by a hedge fund, I find it so strange that their due diligence seemed so incompetent, they paid money for a club with debts and who had negotiated the lease from hell £1.2m plus limited access to matchday funds. Would negotiation of the lease as part of the due diligence highlighted to ACL of SISU's true intentions and probably stopped them from getting the club.
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
Sounds about right to me.
Can't see a way it can be stopped.
And it's a more acceptable end game than most I can imagine right at the moment.
So why don't we let them get on with it and get behind them? That surely means the quicker ACL go down the better, saves more investment in this distraction play about building a new ground, brings the club back to the Ricoh in the shortest space of time - happy days all round.
In all seriousness probably the most realistic and quickest way to bring Coventry City back to playing in Coventry. Can anyone suggest otherwise?


cant see how or why ACL should go down they don't deserve to :blue::blue:
 

dadgad

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Yes, WE can stop them, with a complete boycott!

The supporters have the power!

I think today the PROTEST has defined the principle at stake.
Sisu are riding rough shod over our traditions and sensibilities.
Whatever we do now we should do together, whether we support the team or embrace NOPM.
Whatever, please stick together!
Pusb
 

Sba180

Member
So for SISU everything seems to be going to plan.
Refuse to talk to ACL unless they sign the CVA (which will stop any further investigations into the murky waters that is CCFC Ltd).
If ACL sign the CVA SISU will agree to a meeting but with no intent on sorting anything out and continue the Northampton fiasco.
The new stadium is pie in the sky - they will wait 3 to 5 years for ACL to go into admin and then purchase the Ricoh at a knock down price.
They will cream off all the profits from concerts etc for their own pockets.
The football team will be back in Coventry playing at the Ricoh probably playing in League 1 / 2 but with everything run on a shoestring budget.

well. thank you Mr visionary!!
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
So for SISU everything seems to be going to plan.
Refuse to talk to ACL unless they sign the CVA (which will stop any further investigations into the murky waters that is CCFC Ltd).
If ACL sign the CVA SISU will agree to a meeting but with no intent on sorting anything out and continue the Northampton fiasco.
The new stadium is pie in the sky - they will wait 3 to 5 years for ACL to go into admin and then purchase the Ricoh at a knock down price.
They will cream off all the profits from concerts etc for their own pockets.
The football team will be back in Coventry playing at the Ricoh probably playing in League 1 / 2 but with everything run on a shoestring budget.

I'm all for wanting my club settled at the Ricoh but I don't want them merely renting the pitch and nothing else. if that couldn't change then eventually I would expect them to try and build our own stadium then.
Look the point is what you are saying here is just your take on it...you have no facts.
Why is it that so many just take the side of the ACL driven council of this town as right and good and all that SISU as bad? If I am to support my football club then by default I have to support SISU in their stance even if I think large sways of it are bad....because I don't see ACL coming up with anything acceptable yet? So why al this support for ACL? They in my opinion are stopping the club from playing in Coventry as much as SISU.
 

shropshirecov

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I'm all for wanting my club settled at the Ricoh but I don't want them merely renting the pitch and nothing else. if that couldn't change then eventually I would expect them to try and build our own stadium then.
Look the point is what you are saying here is just your take on it...you have no facts.
Why is it that so many just take the side of the ACL driven council of this town as right and good and all that SISU as bad? If I am to support my football club then by default I have to support SISU in their stance even if I think large sways of it are bad....because I don't see ACL coming up with anything acceptable yet? So why al this support for ACL? They in my opinion are stopping the club from playing in Coventry as much as SISU.

Dunno why anyone is supporting ACL.
 

Grendel

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Dunno why anyone is supporting ACL.

That ultimately has proved our undoing. If everyone had sided with the club at the beginning of this we may have been ok.

Any footballer supporter would not flinch if they went bankrupt tomorrow. I know I wouldn't. Ill never set foot in there again. We used to book meetings there once a quarter. I've cancelled them and have booked elsewhere. If anyone contacts me regarding concerts there I tell them its a dump go somewhere else.

If we end up playing at Northampton. I hope sisu go into financial meltdown and the same happens to the equally greedy ACL.
 

Paxman II

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The council own the stadium. What are they doing for the supporters and people of Coventry? A council that formed a company (ACL) to operate the stadium, never ever considered offering the stadium to the football club in part or whole and then supported the said ACL with money to continue and charge crazy rent levels to the football club?
I accept that if it were not SISU there may have been a bit more sympathetic view and a way forward perhaps but I doubt it somehow whoever the owners of the football club were.
 

Otis

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That ultimately has proved our undoing. If everyone had sided with the club at the beginning of this we may have been ok.

Any footballer supporter would not flinch if they went bankrupt tomorrow. I know I wouldn't. Ill never set foot in there again. We used to book meetings there once a quarter. I've cancelled them and have booked elsewhere. If anyone contacts me regarding concerts there I tell them its a dump go somewhere else.

If we end up playing at Northampton. I hope sisu go into financial meltdown and the same happens to the equally greedy ACL.

Be better if we had two complete new entities at the table.

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Grendel

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Be better if we had two complete new entities at the table.

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Yes it would. It would be better if the club was owned by someone else and they were given the management company.

When you look at what stoke ended up paying for the management company and the whole Brittania it beggars belief.

I can't believe that after all these years I will not any more see a game. Don't believe it.
 

shmmeee

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I know its cool and edgy to talk about how ACL are just as bad and hate the club blah blah blah. But surely the evidence from the negotiations and the very fact that there's been a deal on the table for the Ricoh all along suggest otherwise?

I'd genuinely like to know why they're done wrong. Is it really about the original rent agreement? I thought ben that had been proven to be te clubs fault as they turned down a sliding scale?

Happy to be corrected.
 

James Smith

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cant see how or why ACL should go down they don't deserve to :blue::blue:
We're the ones that are sadly more likely to go down if we move to Sixfields.
 

Paxman II

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shimmee what deal on the table was that exactly? If you owned the football club would you have said OK happy to oblige?
 

Grendel

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I know its cool and edgy to talk about how ACL are just as bad and hate the club blah blah blah. But surely the evidence from the negotiations and the very fact that there's been a deal on the table for the Ricoh all along suggest otherwise?

I'd genuinely like to know why they're done wrong. Is it really about the original rent agreement? I thought ben that had been proven to be te clubs fault as they turned down a sliding scale?

Happy to be corrected.

It's statements like this that give me little hope the club will survive.

The club was on its knees and took a deal. Ask yourself this. You are in a desert and a man offers you a bottle of water. For this he says you give him your house at home and your family. You are dying and you accept. I assume in this scenario the man has done no wrong?
 

shropshirecov

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I know its cool and edgy to talk about how ACL are just as bad and hate the club blah blah blah. But surely the evidence from the negotiations and the very fact that there's been a deal on the table for the Ricoh all along suggest otherwise?

I'd genuinely like to know why they're done wrong. Is it really about the original rent agreement? I thought ben that had been proven to be te clubs fault as they turned down a sliding scale?

Happy to be corrected.

ACL don't hate the club they love them, they've been making good from them for years, charged huge rent, sold the catering contract for millions, took loads from sponsors, made Money for old rope for car parking. Sold off part of the stadium. A stadium that wouldn't excist if not for the football club. Some people have done very well while the football club has floundered. The fact sisu are clowns has muddied the water and allowed if not encouraged this disgrace.
 

Astute

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If ACL are as bad as a few of you are trying to make out why don't you organise an anti ACL march. See how many thousands you don't get.
 

shropshirecov

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If ACL are as bad as a few of you are trying to make out why don't you organise an anti ACL march. See how many thousands you don't get.

Today's march was about keeping Coventry city in Coventry you div. ACL are the reason we're having to move as the boos outside the council house proved.
 

cloughie

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Having worked for a company taken over by a hedge fund, I find it so strange that their due diligence seemed so incompetent, they paid money for a club with debts and who had negotiated the lease from hell £1.2m plus limited access to matchday funds. Would negotiation of the lease as part of the due diligence highlighted to ACL of SISU's true intentions and probably stopped them from getting the club.


yes why the hurry when new money laundering laws came into effect the very next day after the sisu deadline
 

Samo

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It's statements like this that give me little hope the club will survive.

The club was on its knees and took a deal. Ask yourself this. You are in a desert and a man offers you a bottle of water. For this he says you give him your house at home and your family. You are dying and you accept. I assume in this scenario the man has done no wrong?

Oh dear! Poor Grendel... desperate stuff! You used to sound like you had a legitimate point of view and at times fairly bright. I don't like to see you like this.
 

magic82ball

New Member
Sounds about right to me.
Can't see a way it can be stopped.
And it's a more acceptable end game than most I can imagine right at the moment.
So why don't we let them get on with it and get behind them? That surely means the quicker ACL go down the better, saves more investment in this distraction play about building a new ground, brings the club back to the Ricoh in the shortest space of time - happy days all round.
In all seriousness probably the most realistic and quickest way to bring Coventry City back to playing in Coventry. Can anyone suggest otherwise?

You make me sick...
 

magic82ball

New Member
It's statements like this that give me little hope the club will survive.

The club was on its knees and took a deal. Ask yourself this. You are in a desert and a man offers you a bottle of water. For this he says you give him your house at home and your family. You are dying and you accept. I assume in this scenario the man has done no wrong?

I used an analogy here akin to "I wouldn't go into a shop, ask how much a mars bar was, eat the bar, and then refuse to pay" when comparing SISU's actions and was absolutely vilified for it. But you my friend have just taken the crown in ridiculous analogies. Thank you, thank you... I can sleep again.
 

Grendel

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I used an analogy here akin to "I wouldn't go into a shop, ask how much a mars bar was, eat the bar, and then refuse to pay" when comparing SISU's actions and was absolutely vilified for it. But you my friend have just taken the crown in ridiculous analogies. Thank you, thank you... I can sleep again.

Does the number 8 on your Avatar signify your IQ or the number of brain cells floating in your head. Either way I think it's way too ambitious.
 
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Flying Fokker

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Ignore all the press about ACL offering concession after concession. The rent was high. SISU were a tad late to the negotiating table on that one. 5 years too late.

Incompetence on SISU's part to let it get to the strategy of paying nothing.
 

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