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Ashdown

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SISU will have this in the bag I’m sure. If it hasn’t already happened a team of accountants and lawyers will be drawing up the potential financial damages to CCFC for missed revenue and breach of contract etc
Wasps have royally fucked up here…..but I have a feeling that our owners have known they would for a while and will now go all out to press them for compensation they clearly can’t afford to pay……and so we go again.
This would all be fine by me if it got rid of Wasps and CCFC gained exclusivity to the Arena built for them but this is SISU we are talking about and after protracted legal action for months/ years only they will benefit surely.
 
Tommo1993

Tommo1993

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slowpoke said:
Not an expert but how long does it take to lay a pitch working day and night.
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I’m waiting on a text back from Alan Titchmarsh. But I would guess reversing fixtures for now would be just as likely as having an adequate pitch before the Huddersfield game.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Ashdown said:
SISU will have this in the bag I’m sure. If it hasn’t already happened a team of accountants and lawyers will be drawing up the potential financial damages to CCFC for missed revenue and breach of contract etc
Wasps have royally fucked up here…..but I have a feeling that our owners have known they would for a while and will now go all out to press them for compensation they clearly can’t afford to pay……and so we go again.
This would all be fine by me if it got rid of Wasps and CCFC gained exclusivity to the Arena built for them but this is SISU we are talking about and after protracted legal action for months/ years only they will benefit surely.
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Do you honestly think we can make the stadium work when everyone else has failed?

Also I don’t see the rugby club being liquidated and they have a 50 year sun lease on the stadium
 
GaryJones

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lifeskyblue said:
So today off. But realistically how quickly can an unsafe pitch be transformed into a safe one? Are we going to have a month of cancelled home fixtures? The club and efl need to get a joint statement out asap informing fans of an expected timeline.


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I’ve pulled this off the official FA Guide to Professional Football Pitches.
Depending on which way you read it I think it looks like 9 weeks for a new pitch to be playable or 4 days for repairs of existing pitch to be playable.

Renovation
There was a time when the renovation of a pitch was confined to the close season. With many clubs now running various forms of youth set ups and staging other events grounds staff are now finding pitches are required most of the year. This has created problems when scheduling close season works.
Most pitches need at least nine weeks to recover and for new swards to mature ready for play.
Clubs that have youth set ups really need to have a minimum of eight pitches to allow the groundsmen to rotate the pitches. This rotation system can allow pitches to be taken out of use during the close season and be renovated.
With todays equipment renovation time can be shortened to 3 to 4 days and the choice of equipment, that is available to the groundsmen has never been so good.
 
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Ashdown

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Grendel said:
Do you honestly think we can make the stadium work when everyone else has failed?

Also I don’t see the rugby club being liquidated and they have a 50 year sun lease on the stadium
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Most upgrading of facilities has been carried out recently ? One club all revenue ? New owners required though to maximise all potential? Owners who are investors and not looking to turn a vast profit could succeed?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Ashdown said:
Most upgrading of facilities has been carried out recently ? One club all revenue ? New owners required though to maximise all potential? Owners who are investors and not looking to turn a vast profit could succeed?
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I’ve always said the stadium is a white elephant - it’s a loss making disaster in a rubbish location with no parking availability
 
pusbccfc

pusbccfc

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marcusp said:
There is a photo of the pitch a few days before the cwg games started and it looks maculate. Fast forward a few weeks to the shit show we have now
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It looks good but doesn't mean it's great.

Often last season the pitch looked amazing from the pictures before the game but the ball couldn't roll properly on it.

It also proves that the pitch would have deteriorated within a month or so of football.
 
pusbccfc

pusbccfc

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Grendel said:
I’ve always said the stadium is a white elephant - it’s a loss making disaster in a rubbish location with no parking availability
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We'd need to rely on a new train/team line. If that was ever sorted, it could compete with other large concert halls.

You say it's a white elephant, but within 15 years it's been an Olympic, Commonwealth and soon Rugby League World Cup venue. It's also been a go to for stadium sized gigs in the Midlands ahead of the likes of Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Nottingham and Leicester.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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pusbccfc said:
We'd need to rely on a new train/team line. If that was ever sorted, it could compete with other large concert halls.

You say it's a white elephant, but within 15 years it's been an Olympic, Commonwealth and soon Rugby League World Cup venue. It's also been a go to for stadium sized gigs in the Midlands ahead of the likes of Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Nottingham and Leicester.
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Those are loss leaders - sports clubs don’t run hotels casinos concert halls

Concerts make hardly any money, the exhibition hall is small time versus the NEC - the last place you’d locate a complex like this is 15 minutes from the biggest and better rival
 
SkyblueDad

SkyblueDad

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Although I basically agree with you there is potential for it to atleast break even, I often drive by and the car parks can be chocker but as you say it was never going to be the goldmine Bryan Richardson was boasting.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Greggs said:
How many football matches have you been to where parking is easy? Also, what are those huge tarmac areas opposite the stadium?
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Those huge tarmac areas are £230 a go - grounds near city centres are easy as you park in the centre and walk.

there is a huge radius around it that is restricted parking - if the club were allowed to extend the original ground it’s a 15 minute walk to the car parks in the City
 
Sick Boy

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Grendel said:
Those huge tarmac areas are £230 a go - grounds near city centres are easy as you park in the centre and walk.

there is a huge radius around it that is restricted parking - if the club were allowed to extend the original ground it’s a 15 minute walk to the car parks in the City
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It wouldn’t be such an issue if there was a proper train service with a train every 10 minutes to the arena.
 
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£230 for 23 games enabling you to park right next to the stadium is pretty good value At £10 per game.
The only parking in the town Ctr is now pay and display with most car parks in the town charging £2 an hour or more
 
Grendel

Grendel

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marcusp said:
£230 for 23 games enabling you to park right next to the stadium is pretty good value At £10 per game.
The only parking in the town Ctr is now pay and display with most car parks in the town charging £2 an hour or more
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there is one other problem - they are all sold out as they have very limited availability and other then C block you in for over an hour
 
Tommo1993

Tommo1993

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Car parks weren’t sold out as quickly as the website suggested - like a few other things to do with this club, the system is dog shit.
 
Brylowes

Brylowes

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Ashdown said:
SISU will have this in the bag I’m sure. If it hasn’t already happened a team of accountants and lawyers will be drawing up the potential financial damages to CCFC for missed revenue and breach of contract etc
Wasps have royally fucked up here…..but I have a feeling that our owners have known they would for a while and will now go all out to press them for compensation they clearly can’t afford to pay……and so we go again.
This would all be fine by me if it got rid of Wasps and CCFC gained exclusivity to the Arena built for them but this is SISU we are talking about and after protracted legal action for months/ years only they will benefit surely.
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I agree with most of that, but i think this situation could well get rid of MR before wasps.
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Grendel said:
I guess once the new ground is built - I think planning permission was 3 years away when it was announced - so guess it’s being finalised soon - we will be in charge of our own destiny

it’s happening isn’t it?
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Yeah if you believe in fairies.


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Sick Boy said:
It wouldn’t be such an issue if there was a proper train service with a train every 10 minutes to the arena.
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Or official shuttle buses organised from different sites around the city
Other clubs seem to organise these , ( it used to happen a while back. )
A small charge for fans to park and ride, some income for the sites involved
Eg NAC at Stoneleigh, industrial sites with spaces, Bayton road?, other smaller locations not in use at weekends


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fernandopartridge

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pusbccfc said:
We'd need to rely on a new train/team line. If that was ever sorted, it could compete with other large concert halls.

You say it's a white elephant, but within 15 years it's been an Olympic, Commonwealth and soon Rugby League World Cup venue. It's also been a go to for stadium sized gigs in the Midlands ahead of the likes of Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Nottingham and Leicester.
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Yet despite all that it has never made sustainable profit, you could argue that it has never been unecumbered with debt but then again it's not been invested in either

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Grendel said:
Do you honestly think we can make the stadium work when everyone else has failed?

Also I don’t see the rugby club being liquidated and they have a 50 year sun lease on the stadium
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At some point somebody will indeed get it either unencumbered or close to. In that respect, Seppala's demands from back in the day do seem to have been right.
 
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no_loyalty

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Sick Boy said:
It wouldn’t be such an issue if there was a proper train service with a train every 10 minutes to the arena.
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If they did the same they do at Brighton with the free train within a 10 mile radius for season/match ticket holders, that would be ideal.
 
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