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chiefdave

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So lets say we sell a player to be able to buy this £500K lay and play pitch. What happens if the pitch is destroyed during the World Cup break where instead of the pitch getting some rest and being looked after it will not only have Wasps playing on it but the Rugby World Cup. Do we come up with another £500K?

Does this £500K every get paid back given Wasps have no money or are we just gifting it to them?
 

Liquid Gold

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It’s also no surprise someone from ‘brizzle’ is happy for us to leave Coventry again. I’ve had nothing but a reasonable conversation with you and you turn condescending and agressive? We are literally saying the same thing except you would rather play away and distress wasps in the hope they go bust, I would rather ease the pressure on wasps with the upside being we stay. I hope you’re right and us playing away forces them into the oblivion. I just don’t think it will and even if it does, where does it leave us? But I really hope you’re right
I travel 100 miles to watch home games in Coventry and am happy to do so.

I would bet my life savings you've never sat through 90 minutes of a ccfc game.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Also not as simple as paying for the pitch and all being hunky dory.

If we could get it in the press now that we would pay for it and it comes straight off all our obligations to them until it's paid back then it would be a step to see what the response is.

We haven’t got time, money or resources on our side. Already by the end of this weekend we’ll be 3 games down on the rest of the league and it’s not even September. The question here is which is the lesser evil needed for us to get a playable surface in the quickest time. Already the 3 postponements and 1 cup game moved to another ground have cost us likely more than a new pitch.

Hard to see what the right answer is.
 

chiefdave

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Where has this £500k figure come from FFS. Only about 10% of that pitch is likely unplayable ?
More total speculation methinks.
Just another thought as well, when we signed up for the 10 year deal didn’t that state no more court cases or was that no more ‘ state aid’ court cases ?
Obviously with the huge caveat that we haven't seen the report and only have what Boddy says to go off but he claims that the specialist said that if its patched up now we'll be back in the same situation when the weather turns and Wasps start using it. That makes a new pitch the only option and unless we're getting a 6 - 8 week window somehow to lay that we're looking at 'lay and play' which seems to be in the region of £500K
 

fatso

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Well in June we were told the pitch wasn’t being relaid and the fixtures were announced with us playing at home first weekend in august. Are you suggesting that the club didn’t know then that the pitch would be in poor condition or did they still think it would be playable?

I agree about the 10 days feels like it’s been 10 years lol
I'm sure the club did know they'd be issues, but as tenants it's the landlords responsibility. You can't force a landlord to act, unless you take them to court.
Which is exactly where I see this ending up.
SISU have already gathered independent reports to support their case.

Just give Wasps enough rope and they will hang themselves.
 

Liquid Gold

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We haven’t got time, money or resources on our side. Already by the end of this weekend we’ll be 3 games down on the rest of the league and it’s not even September. The question here is which is the lesser evil needed for us to get a playable surface in the quickest time. Already the 3 postponements and 1 cup game moved to another ground have cost us likely more than a new pitch.

Hard to see what the right answer is.
The reality is we have 3 options

1. undersell Gyokeres to pay for it, make ourselves instant relegation candidates and prop up the failing landlords.
2. move to somewhere else, take a massive hit on refunded season tickets and become instant relegation candidates.
3. find a way to make Wasps pay for it, and if we have to put the money up first it's within an agreement that it comes off out obligations.

Wasps have, according to our CEO, refused the most sensible option (3) and now we have a load of dodgy social media posts and dodgy councillors suggest we take one of the other two options which instantly threaten the club.

It fucking stinks.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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We haven’t got time, money or resources on our side. Already by the end of this weekend we’ll be 3 games down on the rest of the league and it’s not even September. The question here is which is the lesser evil needed for us to get a playable surface in the quickest time. Already the 3 postponements and 1 cup game moved to another ground have cost us likely more than a new pitch.

Hard to see what the right answer is.
Stay patient
 

Sky Blue Pete

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The reality is we have 3 options

1. undersell Gyokeres to pay for it, make ourselves instant relegation candidates and prop up the failing landlords.
2. move to somewhere else, take a massive hit on refunded season tickets and become instant relegation candidates.
3. find a way to make Wasps pay for it, and if we have to put the money up first it's within an agreement that it comes off out obligations.

Wasps have, according to our CEO, refused the most sensible option (3) and now we have a load of dodgy social media posts and dodgy councillors suggest we take one of the other two options which instantly threaten the club.

It fucking stinks.
3 is really the only solution
 

rexo87

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The reality is we have 3 options

1. undersell Gyokeres to pay for it, make ourselves instant relegation candidates and prop up the failing landlords.
2. move to somewhere else, take a massive hit on refunded season tickets and become instant relegation candidates.
3. find a way to make Wasps pay for it, and if we have to put the money up first it's within an agreement that it comes off out obligations.

Wasps have, according to our CEO, refused the most sensible option (3) and now we have a load of dodgy social media posts and dodgy councillors suggest we take one of the other two options which instantly threaten the club.

It fucking stinks.
We have to do all we can for option 3 and I'm sure we currently are pushing as hard as possible for this option (threatening legals etc). Out of 1 and 2 I'd rather 2 tbh. Absolutely no way should we be bailing Wasps out at all. Somehow manage to survive this season in champ and surely Wasps will be gone by next season when we can re-assess

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Ashdown

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Obviously with the huge caveat that we haven't seen the report and only have what Boddy says to go off but he claims that the specialist said that if its patched up now we'll be back in the same situation when the weather turns and Wasps start using it. That makes a new pitch the only option and unless we're getting a 6 - 8 week window somehow to lay that we're looking at 'lay and play' which seems to be in the region of £500K
I find that astonishing. For a start we have a month to play with before Wasps play on it ? Someone needs to be a little economical with their purchasing options here.
 

Liquid Gold

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3 is really the only solution
We have to do all we can for option 3 and I'm sure we currently are pushing as hard as possible for this option (threatening legals etc). Out of 1 and 2 I'd rather 2 tbh. Absolutely no way should we be bailing Wasps out at all. Somehow manage to survive this season in champ and surely Wasps will be gone by next season when we can re-assess

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Agreed.

Which is why all this CCFC should pay narrative from dodgy accounts needs shutting right down.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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The reality is we have 3 options

1. undersell Gyokeres to pay for it, make ourselves instant relegation candidates and prop up the failing landlords.
2. move to somewhere else, take a massive hit on refunded season tickets and become instant relegation candidates.
3. find a way to make Wasps pay for it, and if we have to put the money up first it's within an agreement that it comes off out obligations.

Wasps have, according to our CEO, refused the most sensible option (3) and now we have a load of dodgy social media posts and dodgy councillors suggest we take one of the other two options which instantly threaten the club.

It fucking stinks.

We may well force Wasps to pay but it’ll take too long. Maybe doing a fundraiser among the fan base isn’t as ludicrous an idea as I thought
 

Grendel

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We may well force Wasps to pay but it’ll take too long. Maybe doing a fundraiser among the fan base isn’t as ludicrous an idea as I thought

People are fixating on the £500k far too much - the option of repair is far cheaper
 

Nick

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We may well force Wasps to pay but it’ll take too long. Maybe doing a fundraiser among the fan base isn’t as ludicrous an idea as I thought

So as a fan I put in £100.

Wasps go bust.

What happens to my £100? CCFC fans really crowd funding to pay Wasp's bills?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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So as a fan I put in £100.

Wasps go bust.

What happens to my £100? CCFC fans really crowd funding to pay Wasp's bills?

I wasn’t being entirely serious but we are losing out on a lot of money with each postponement. What’s the answer?
 

Grendel

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I don’t personally think they can hand on heart say that’s what they think should happen.

No one has said should its a case of what is best for revenue mitigation - if its £100k we have already lost more by not paying it - from a cost perspective we are worse off

The irony is most of the people adamant Wasps are going bust soon don't accept in that instance we'd be paying anyway as no one else would
 

Dominic H

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Believer said the Wigan game would be on.

I don’t think anybody knows. It would be helpful if they released a bit more info.

Don't think they know what's going on themselves, Boddy come out saying that wasps never told them that they wouldn't be laying a new pitch, then come out and said they knew the new pitch wasnt going down back in june so whatever information they release should we really believe it
 

Grendel

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Hopefully done properly not before the end of the season

Well let’s hope so. It now appears Mr Richardson has sold his shareholdings in the training ground…on the day of the bond defaulting
 

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