CCFC- what do we want on Match-days? (6 Viewers)

Nick · Jun 14, 2015

Otis said:
Nick, you're still not getting it.

You telling me that a child who doesn't care for football much will never care for football ever?

Seriously?

My brother didn't like football at all until he was about 12 and then he became a confirmed City fan!

So you're saying with my daughter I should just totally give up with her?

I'm not talking about people who HATE football. You seem to have it in your mind you are either one or another.

We can all grow to love things we didn't think we would.

I think sign her up to the JSB's, take her to the parties.

As I said earlier, CCFC related stuff will help if they do the stuff they do at the parties before games and promote it more. They do usually do crafts and stuff before the games at the Ricoh.

I am not saying they won't ever like football, but if the only way to make them go is to offer them something non football related as a sweetener then they will just expect the sweetener and still not be fussed about the football. If the sweetener then stops, they won't be interested.

Otis · Jun 14, 2015

Nick said:
I think sign her up to the JSB's, take her to the parties.

As I said earlier, CCFC related stuff will help if they do the stuff they do at the parties before games and promote it more. They do usually do crafts and stuff before the games at the Ricoh.

I am not saying they won't ever like football, but if the only way to make them go is to offer them something non football related as a sweetener then they will just expect the sweetener and still not be fussed about the football. If the sweetener then stops, they won't be interested.

Had no idea you were a child psychologist, Nick.

When the team lose and it's a crap match, most of us don't feel like returning any time soon. With kids, losing can hurt more. I know it did for me when I was a kid. I used to cry every time we lost.

All I am saying is, if there is other stuff going on, the kid may well be keener to return to another game, whatever the outcome.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jun 14, 2015

Otis said:
Had no idea you were a child psychologist, Nick.

When the team lose and it's a crap match, most of us don't feel like returning any time soon. With kids, losing can hurt more. I know it did for me when I was a kid. I used to cry every time we lost.

All I am saying is, if there is other stuff going on, the kid may well be keener to return to another game, whatever the outcome.

Firmer parenting would also help.

Nick · Jun 14, 2015

Otis said:
Had no idea you were a child psychologist, Nick.

When the team lose and it's a crap match, most of us don't feel like returning any time soon. With kids, losing can hurt more. I know it did for me when I was a kid. I used to cry every time we lost.

It probably won't bother them if they are only there to see a juggler or to have a hot dog though?

Of course losing isn't good, as a kid or even a grown up but it is part of football isn't it?

It's all well and good people moaning and saying their kids don't support CCFC (not aimed at you btw) but the parents do have to make a little bit of an effort too. No reason not to make them a JSB, no reason not to take them to parties where they can meet the players etc.

Otis · Jun 14, 2015

CCFC said:
Firmer parenting would also help.

Yeah. Next time I will drag my daughter kicking and screaming and insist she attends games

No idea what your comment means. What firmer parenting? You won't find many firmer parents than me for sure.

Guessing you must be joking, right?

Sick Boy · Jun 14, 2015

Some of the comments on here are ridiculous. It is a football match. I'd much rather look towards Europe where they focus on the football and the day out rather than this Americanised crap.

Maybe Italia can put together a fun fair in his car park for all of those who need that something else rather than just the football.

Otis · Jun 14, 2015

Sick Boy said:
Some of the comments on here are ridiculous. It is a football match. I'd much rather look towards Europe where they focus on the football and the day out rather than this Americanised crap.

Maybe Italia can put together a fun fair in his car park for all of those who need that something else rather than just the football.

A lot of comments on here are indeed ridiculous, but just about no-one has suggested a funfair or jugglers and are merely making a point.

I just go for the game and already gave my idea, that of classic game highlights on the scoreboard.

People are only bandying about ideas on here and I see nothing wrong in that at all.

Some can be dismissed almost straight away, but let's at least put them out there.

I'm sure every brainstorming session in history known to mankind came up with some silly ideas before the great ones came to fruition.

ccfcway · Jun 14, 2015

Otis said:
A lot of comments on here are indeed ridiculous, but just about no-one has suggested a funfair or jugglers and are merely making a point. People are only bandying about ideas on here and I see nothing wrong in that at all. Some can be dismissed almost straight away, but let's at least put them out there. I'm sure every brainstorming session in history known to mankind came up with some silly ideas before the great ones came to fruition.

agreed

Otis · Jun 14, 2015

ccfcway said:
agreed

Awesome! Where can I get it?

ccfcway · Jun 14, 2015

Otis said:
Awesome! Where can I get it?

the shoppy shop

stupot07 · Jun 14, 2015

Otis - the trick is good chewy sweets and angry birds. Keeps by 4 year old quiet for 90 mins.

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Otis · Jun 14, 2015

stupot07 said:
Otis - the trick is good chewy sweets and angry birds. Keeps by 4 year old quiet for 90 mins.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors

Yeah, well I could have let me daughter play on her PS Vita for the 90 mins, but what's the point of that? Would rather the 'bribery' option to be honest. If I just let her go on her gaming device then there is absolutely no point of her going to the game whatsoever.

It's a balance isn't it. We want our kids to watch the game, but also know it is hard to keep them onboard for the entire match.

Sick Boy · Jun 14, 2015

If you are youngster into football then you don't need all that other crap. I started going up to HR when I was about 6 or 7. The atmosphere, the smells and the passion where better than any fireworks or a fairground ride.

Sky sports has got a lot to answer for. The passion has all but gone from the game and we are turning into a nation of Yanks. How utterly depressing.

Sick Boy · Jun 14, 2015

Otis said:
Yeah, well I could have let me daughter play on her PS Vita for the 90 mins, but what's the point of that? Would rather the 'bribery' option to be honest. If I just let her go on her gaming device then there is absolutely no point of her going to the game whatsoever.

It's a balance isn't it. We want our kids to watch the game, but also know it is hard to keep them onboard for the entire match.

If they aren't that interested then why bother taking them? Maybe they aren't that into football and would rather do something else?

Otis · Jun 14, 2015

Sick Boy said:
If they aren't that interested then why bother taking them? Maybe they aren't that into football and would rather do something else?

Well, if you read my posts you would see that I took her 3 times and then gave up.

The whole point is that maybe in time she might have gotten into it if she looked forwards to the day more, rather than just going to the game.

To answer your question, she wasn't that bothered so I stopped taking her.

Samo · Jun 14, 2015

I went to the cinema this evening and noticed a very strange phenomenon... They have filled the waiting area with all sorts of machines and games, and none of them have anything to do with movies! They must be very silly and have zero business sense as these will never be used as they are not connected to the main business. Weird! Why do you think they might have made this schoolboy error?

Samo · Jun 14, 2015

Sick Boy said:
If you are youngster into football then you don't need all that other crap. I started going up to HR when I was about 6 or 7. The atmosphere, the smells and the passion where better than any fireworks or a fairground ride.

Sky sports has got a lot to answer for. The passion has all but gone from the game and we are turning into a nation of Yanks. How utterly depressing.

Who said anything about fairground rides?

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jun 14, 2015

Samo said:
I went to the cinema this evening and noticed a very strange phenomenon... They have filled the waiting area with all sorts of machines and games, and none of them have anything to do with movies! They must be very silly and have zero business sense as these will never be used as they are not connected to the main business. Weird! Why do you think they might have made this schoolboy error?

The two are not comparable

Samo · Jun 14, 2015

CCFC said:
The two are not comparable

Why?

Mild-Mannered Janitor · Jun 14, 2015

What could hav been a good thread is now degenerating into pathetic arguments.

we all got into football at some stage, the problem now for adults and more importantly, the children, is that they generally have far more choice and less patience so the club has to compete with many other leisure based opportunities. It can do this and continue to improve the fan base or it can dwindle.

Fundamentally though, we all agree that a successful team Ie the top 2 would mean we don't need anything but we have failed at that for too long, let's hope this year changes that, if not, then maybe the other experiences will help hold onto those fans for another year until we do get success.

ccfcway · Jun 14, 2015

Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
What could have been a good thread is now degenerating into pathetic arguments.

thats every thread isn't it ?

Football today is so different to what it was 30 years ago. Appealing to children in 2015 is different to 1985. Some can take that on board, some can't.

Samo · Jun 14, 2015

Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
What could hav been a good thread is now degenerating into pathetic arguments.

we all got into football at some stage, the problem now for adults and more importantly, the children, is that they generally have far more choice and less patience so the club has to compete with many other leisure based opportunities. It can do this and continue to improve the fan base or it can dwindle.

Fundamentally though, we all agree that a successful team Ie the top 2 would mean we don't need anything but we have failed at that for too long, let's hope this year changes that, if not, then maybe the other experiences will help hold onto those fans for another year until we do get success.

It is/was a good thread which should be full of positive ideas but as usual has been hijacked by curmudgeonly negative types who are only interested in problems but offer no solutions and could not agree with their own arse.

Nick · Jun 14, 2015

Samo said:
It is/was a good thread which should be full of positive ideas but as usual has been hijacked by curmudgeonly negative types who are only interested in problems but offer no solutions and could not agree with their own arse.

I guess a fair few agree as I've never seen waltzers, magicians or jugglers at a league one football match.

I have also offered solutions and have been saying it for months about the kids / oap stuff the club should be doing.

Samo · Jun 15, 2015

Nick said:
I guess a fair few agree as I've never seen waltzers, magicians or jugglers at a league one football match.

I have also offered solutions and have been saying it for months about the kids / oap stuff the club should be doing.

God this place is depressing

Shakeitup · Jun 15, 2015

Basically I think the problem is lack of atmosphere. Be it before, during or after a game.

Don't shoot me, I'm going to talk rugby (using an anecdote!)

Last year I went to an international rugby match, taking along a friend who is Spanish, has had a season ticket for his (fairly successful) team for about ten years, he follows his team like mad, is involved with putting on the displays that the club does against rivals etc.

We went to the rugby and turned up an hour or so before. Around the ground there was lots of things going on, food stalls, beer tents, games (connected to rugby) for kids, a little bit of music and it generally created a positive, feel good atmosphere.

People had turned up early and made a real day of it.

Now without going too overboard, I'm sure the club could do some of this on a smaller scale before, during and after a match (especially in warmer months) and make it a real event.

Going back to my Spanish friend...he said that the rugby was amazing, that he felt he'd missed out on that kind of atmosphere and that the whole positivity was very different from football. Moreover, if he had children he'd love to bring them/his family to rugby matches rather than football!

ajsccfc · Jun 15, 2015

I don't see a problem with adding non-football things to help keep kids entertained in particular, they could end up looking forward to the day out which can easily become looking forward to the football match as time goes on. I personally remember being more fascinated by the animations on the scoreboard during some of my first games.

Otis · Jun 15, 2015

ajsccfc said:
I don't see a problem with adding non-football things to help keep kids entertained in particular, they could end up looking forward to the day out which can easily become looking forward to the football match as time goes on. I personally remember being more fascinated by the animations on the scoreboard during some of my first games.

Exactly! Well said. Whatever it takes to get them through the door!

Kids go to stuff and if it becomes routine and they have a good time doing other things, they can grow to love things like a game of football too in time.

I know my daughter doesn't hate football. She just finds it a little boring at times, but then in saying that, don't we all? There will be a game out there that will be thrilling and bring kids to their feet and then they can be hooked.

When there's a game on TV my daughter will say 'Ooh, that's good goal,' or will ask about players etc., so I know she is not a completely lost cause.

The only way I think I could get her back though would be if there was other stuff on, on the day too.

fernandopartridge · Jun 15, 2015

Can the club ask ACL to open the real ale bar(s)? It isn't only rugby supporters who want something better than bottles of Carlsberg

Ashdown · Jun 15, 2015

I think they should make a little more of the concourses, they're too bland, cold and without anywhere at all to park your ass !

Otis · Jun 15, 2015

Ashdown said:
I think they should make a little more of the concourses, they're too bland, cold and without anywhere at all to park your ass !

Yes, totally agree. They want people in the ground and on the concourses spending money, but when you get in it is all so cold and depressing, with nowhere to sit.

Skyblueweeman · Jun 15, 2015

Not read all 17 pages but has anyone mentioned Monkey Butlers yet?

Terry Gibson's perm · Jun 15, 2015

We could have the Sky Blue Stocks and pay £1 to throw rotten fruit at somebody, Tim Fisher would be my first choice but I am not sure there would be enough fruit in the market for the queue, there are also plenty on here who could go in them

Otis · Jun 15, 2015

Skyblueweeman said:
Not read all 17 pages but has anyone mentioned Monkey Butlers yet?

Monkey butlers with crashing cymbols, who can juggle and operate the fairground rides, would be great!!

torchomatic · Jun 15, 2015

Personally: WiFi, more outlets open and outlets where you can buy everything in one go. Not the situation where you have to queue at one outlet for a coffee and queue separately for a hot dog or whatever. Programme sellers on the concourse. Clean toilets

Overall, lots for kids to do. Half time entertainment such as five-a-sides, etc. A text MOTM thing.

Otis · Jun 15, 2015

torchomatic said:
Personally: WiFi, more outlets open and outlets where you can buy everything in one go. Not the situation where you have to queue at one outlet for a coffee and queue separately for a hot dog or whatever. Programme sellers on the concourse. Clean toilets

Overall, lots for kids to do. Half time entertainment such as five-a-sides, etc. A text MOTM thing.

Free wifi would be excellent. Good shout that, Torch.

If there was free wifi they could then get fans to vote for their MOTM during the game, as it draws to the close. Open lines on say 80 mins and maybe have a raffle prize drawn from all the numbers who voted. A signed shirt or something.

Might get people staying in their seats a while longer and not leaving on 75 minutes.

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