CET: Forest welcome offers for McG and players back from injury (1 Viewer)

skyblu3sk

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FOREST DROP McGOLDRICK HINT

NOTTINGHAM Forest boss Sean O'Driscoll has dropped a heavy hint that he will be open to offers for striker David McGoldrick in January.
The 24-year-old striker has made a big impact since joining the Sky Blues on loan last month prompting speculation that he could get a fresh start at the City Ground.

But O'Driscoll said yesterday: “At the minute, he is better off where he is. His confidence will be high and, if he can put himself in the shop window, that would benefit everyone.“

He added: “David worked really hard here and got himself fit but he needed games.
The fact that he is scoring goals will boost his confidence and that is an on-going thing. When you score more, you get more confidence and then things spiral. “League One is not the greatest division from what I have seen this season but you still have to score the goals.

“If he can get into a routine of scoring goals then he can be an asset.

“When a player is out of contract at the end of a season, they have a choice. The idea was for him to go and get some games, then we would review the situation as and when.“

City could face stiff competition for the player who can talk to other clubs from January, but they may have an advantage as McGoldrick is settled and playing well.

“His form hasn't surprised me,“ said Coventry boss Mark Robins. “The key to it is getting a rhythm. The only way you get that is by playing games and David has certainly found a rhythm of late.

“We have him until January and I am sure there will be one or two people looking at how well he's doing here.
Money talks and someone might come in with a permanent deal for him that was acceptable. Maybe we can keep him, maybe he will want to stay but if an offer comes in and Forest want to sell that's another avenue.

“I'm talking out of school really because he's a Forest player and they might have other ideas so we have to keep monitoring the situation. But we're lucky to have him until then and we'll make sure we look after him because he is repaying us with some really good performances and working hard in training as well.“

Robins revealed that Cody McDonald and Gary cSheffrey are back in training and vying for a lace in tomorrow's squad to face Notts County at he Ricoh Arena, and says he has a number of players pushing for a place in the first team.

“We have got Cody and other options if it is not going to be David come the New Year,“ he said. “But we've still got 12 or 13 weeks until he's due to go back and whose to say he's not happy due to go back and whose to say he's not happy and he's not going to stay. But we'll focus on getting everyone ready for any eventuality.

“I can only pick 11 players and I'm looking for consistency and quality all the time and there are one or two who haven't played yet but are starting to look sharp in training.

“I will have a look at them again in the Under-21 game at Leicester tonight and hopefully they will be pushing for a starting berth because we need everyone fighting for a place and those lads in possession battling to retain the shirt.

“There are quite a few knocking on the door. And that's what I am looking for because we have to develop our own and get them in to the first team environment, and there will be a pathway for the ones who warrant it.“

Fit-again Kevin Kilbane will get a run out with the development squad at Leicester tonight while John Fleck is back in training following an ear injury sustained at Swindon and is expected to be available to face the Magpies.
 

Astute

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The CET could have taken most of that from here from what we have said about the situation. The only difference is where a few thought Forest would want him back.
 

pusbccfc

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If Roy O'Donovan went on loan and scored 10 goals in 20 in league 2...

I doubt we'd still rush to get him back.
Similar situation, McGoldricks goal tally at Forest is awful.
 

Otis

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Would assume that we can't afford to buy him, so we either need to sell someone, or see if there is a City player that Forest could be interested in doing a swap deal for.
 

skyblueman

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Would assume that we can't afford to buy him, so we either need to sell someone, or see if there is a City player that Forest could be interested in doing a swap deal for.

Seriously can you see Forest wanting any of our other players?
 

scroobiustom

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is he not out of contract soon? sign a pre-deal for next season back in the champ :facepalm:
 

wingy

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I like the line where he says we have to develop our own and there will be a pathway for the ones that warrant it.Sounds like one or two of those exciting youngsters we saw in pre-season may get a sniff,or could he be refferring to Thomas ,Christie or Bell although its a bit late to Develop him as such.
 

Astute

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I would say we could afford a small fee for him, but only if we could pay it next season unless our gates go up. We must be close to our 65% of income now. He is only worth a small fee as he is with us until next year, last year of his contract and times are changing. There is also a good chance he wouldn't have to move house coning from a midlands club. He seems to be happy at our club. Forest can't force him to sign for another club.

Would we be happy to wait to get him for free or pay a small fee to keep him all season? I see us as favourites to keep him still. We can't afford to let him go. If we keep getting results we will climb up the table. He would pay for himself if he keeps scoring. Even better if we get promoted.
 

ricohman

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I think what o'driscoll says about the league being poor this season is insulting to mc goldrick. He will hopefully pick up on that and force a move to us even if were the lowest bidders. My heart tells me thought that he will go with the highest wage, he's currently on 10 grand a week.
 

stupot07

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We have paid/wasted a fee on just one player this season, and crowds are lower than was budgeted for. Can't see us being able to compete in January. A lower championship side will come in for him if he continues scoring goals.
 

wingy

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Conor Thomas? Jordan Clarke? Cyrus Christie?

We may actually need to sell one of these in Jan or end of season purely to balance the books and unfortunatley if this season ends without promotion, will face the same shortfall for next year.
Who will recoup a potential £3M. next year?:thinking about:
 

rob9872

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Last season despite how poor we were, we would have stayed up if we had kept Juke and I maintain that with a full season strike-force of Juke and King we wouldn't have been a million miles from the play-offs.

It can be a game of small edges sometimes and if we get involved in a bidding war, then it's simple - we won't win. It's paramount that we keep him for the full season as there are no guarantees with any new striker who is likely to need time to 'bed in' or we are in danger of imploding or capitulating in the same manner. Let's hope he loves the club and wants to stay, but I think that's an unrealistic expectation.
 

VisitingPie

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Huge choice....us or Notts County.

Couldn't that depend a bit on league positions come Jan? Plus he wouldn't have an hours journey to training. I suppose ultimately it will come down to the contract he's offered, but I hope you aren't ridiculing us for being a smaller club than you are. We seem to be competing pretty well so far.
 

stupot07

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Couldn't that depend a bit on league positions come Jan? Plus he wouldn't have an hours journey to training. I suppose ultimately it will come down to the contract he's offered, but I hope you aren't ridiculing us for being a smaller club than you are. We seem to be competing pretty well so far.

He's not ridiculing you (i think?). Some of our fans are suffering illusions of grandeur....
 

Astute

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Couldn't that depend a bit on league positions come Jan? Plus he wouldn't have an hours journey to training. I suppose ultimately it will come down to the contract he's offered, but I hope you aren't ridiculing us for being a smaller club than you are. We seem to be competing pretty well so far.

He is with us ATM. He is in our team as one of first names put on team sheet. He is enjoying his time with us. He is scoring goals for the first time in a few years. We now have a good manager who has turned things around quickly. We are moving up the table now. It is his choice who he joins, not Forests. He is coming towards the end of his contract.

Your club is smaller than ours. That don't come into it though. How many players leave Forest to join your club? We look to be on the up now. The start of our season went wrong with our stand in manager. He got the sack a couple of days ago. We can chat about the other bit after the game tomorrow
 

VisitingPie

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He is with us ATM. He is in our team as one of first names put on team sheet. He is enjoying his time with us. He is scoring goals for the first time in a few years. We now have a good manager who has turned things around quickly. We are moving up the table now. It is his choice who he joins, not Forests. He is coming towards the end of his contract.

Your club is smaller than ours. That don't come into it though. How many players leave Forest to join your club? We look to be on the up now. The start of our season went wrong with our stand in manager. He got the sack a couple of days ago. We can chat about the other bit after the game tomorrow

It might be his choice who he joins, unless someone pays a fee and Florist won't let him go for less. It also might have something to do with it if one club offers him a better contract...in fact it will probably have the most to do with it as it always comes down to money in the end.

I'm not arguing the fact that you're a bigger club, I just didn't much care for your original post implying that it wouldn't even warrant further thought if the choice was you or us. The (mighty) cov, or (tinpot) Notts County. That's how it came across.
 

Grendel

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I lived in Nottingham in the early 80's and went to as many County games as Forest. I always admired their fans who stuck with it when there was a more glamorous neighbour next door.

Some good players - Chidozie was one I remember and of course Kilkline. Beat us 5 - 1 one year. I used to enjoy the atmosphere there.
 

Astute

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You can read it like that if you like. I don't disrespect fellow fans that come on here......unless they do the same. We get a fair few.

It don't matter how much a club offers Forest for him. He doesn't have to sign anything. He can sign a pre contract in January. He is with us until he can sign one. How much of a paycut will he take? There is less money on offer now at most clubs. Our clubs can only offer 65% of income on transfers and wages. Can your club afford this? Don't think our club can afford much. We are in pole position. We could get a puncture first corner though.
 

VisitingPie

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You can read it like that if you like. I don't disrespect fellow fans that come on here......unless they do the same. We get a fair few.

It don't matter how much a club offers Forest for him. He doesn't have to sign anything. He can sign a pre contract in January. He is with us until he can sign one. How much of a paycut will he take? There is less money on offer now at most clubs. Our clubs can only offer 65% of income on transfers and wages. Can your club afford this? Don't think our club can afford much. We are in pole position. We could get a puncture first corner though.

Come on Astute. If you really are, as your name suggests, I'm pretty sure you know what I'm getting at, whether you meant it that way or not and I am prepared to accept that you didn't. Imagine if you read that exact post about Coventry on another clubs messageboard. Whatever the actual Facts are, and I'm sure all your points are relevant it definitely came across as a sneer against a small club.
 

Astute

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I will insult your club if it will make you feel better :D

All I have done is stated facts. Swindon are now under a transfer embargo. They reached 66.5% of their income. It was all because of a recent tribunal. How much can your club afford? How much can our club afford? You have as much of an idea as I do. A team that gets him for free or that can make a deal with Forest to pay for him next season....when he would be available for free....will get him. The bigger the income of a club the more chance they have of getting him.

What have I said anywhere that is wrong? We want him. We need him. How much will he want? He is said to be on 10k a week. How much will he want next contract?
 

stupot07

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To be fair if he keeps scoring at the same rate between now and 2 Jan when his loan expires he'll have 12-13 goals. Mid-to-lower championship teams will take notice and if they meet forest's valuation, offer him a 2 1/2- 3 1/3 year contract and promise of first team football he will choose the championship team. I can't see him coming here or to any other league one side if he continues this scoring form.

If forest don't manage to see him, they may be tempted to loan him to a club that offers a decent loan fee. If he comes back to us on loan it won't be until the loan window opens a week after the transfer window shuts as they will want to try to sell him if at all possible.

It's so idealistic to say - he enjoys it, he's scoring, he lives near. Football is a short career and he will go where the best package it (mix of first team football and finance).

Clingan has found that sitting it out for a bosman isn't always the best option. How many players agree contacts with new teams in Jan through Bosman rules? Very few if any. If forest accept a bid and he gets a decent offer he will take it.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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If we can afford him I think he would join us over nearly any other league 1 club, if a championship club come in for him he will likely go to them
 

Astute

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Look what happened to our squad last season. It happens more than you think. And Forest don't even want to keep him.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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I doubt he will command a massive fee with 6 months left on this contract an surplus to requirements at Forest, people keep going on about Forest wanting to recoup most of there 1 million fee but we paid decent fees for Cranie and Clingan ( probably between 500-800k each) and didn't get anything for them
 

sky blue john

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I doubt he will command a massive fee with 6 months left on this contract an surplus to requirements at Forest, people keep going on about Forest wanting to recoup most of there 1 million fee but we paid decent fees for Cranie and Clingan ( probably between 500-800k each) and didn't get anything for them

Maybe something to do with Clingan and Cranie were out of contract is the reason we didn't get a fee for them.
 

stupot07

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I doubt he will command a massive fee with 6 months left on this contract an surplus to requirements at Forest, people keep going on about Forest wanting to recoup most of there 1 million fee but we paid decent fees for Cranie and Clingan ( probably between 500-800k each) and didn't get anything for them

The difference between Cranie/Clingan and McGoldrick is that he's a striker amd a striker who is scoring goals, and as they say scoring goals is e hardest thing in football.
 

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