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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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Wouldn't swap our squad for theirs. Think Stansfield is a good loan though. See where they end up, early days yet.

Hull look better imo.

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Hull in general are a weird side for me. The last couple of seasons they seem to win 2/3 then lose 2/3.

We seem to play them in that 3 games where they’re winning
 

TomRad85

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Hull in general are a weird side for me. The last couple of seasons they seem to win 2/3 then lose 2/3.

We seem to play them in that 3 games where they’re winning
Yeh agree, very up and down team usually. Think they've had a decent summer though.

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no_loyalty

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Blues look just as strong as a lot of us predicted.
They always start the season off well then fade, will be interesting to see how they do this season with the signings they have made.
 

SkyblueTexan

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Will be tough to beat Hull especially without Kasey and Lati. Seri and Tufan have been very good for them . After beating Leicester they will be favourites to win especially with home fields advantage
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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You soccer guys !!!! 😘


Got me thinking, ( I know ) anyone know why the American's called, "football" Soccer ⚽

And yes I know they call American football ball, "football". Just wondering why they called it Soccer ⚽.
 

JohnWH

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Yep. Association football, shortened to soccer.
Not sure when the disconnect to change the name occurred, but American football was always called football since mid-1870s(?) or so when competitions and rules were developed at universities and it quickly became a very popular national sport alongside baseball. "Soccer" wasn't ever huge on popularity, in comparison at the time so that's likely when the name was changed. Maybe I'll research and get back with ya'll
 

Evo1883

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Yep. Association football, shortened to soccer.
Not sure when the disconnect to change the name occurred, but American football was always called football since mid-1870s(?) or so when competitions and rules were developed at universities and it quickly became a very popular national sport alongside baseball. "Soccer" wasn't ever huge on popularity, in comparison at the time so that's likely when the name was changed. Maybe I'll research and get back with ya'll
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Yep. Association football, shortened to soccer.
Not sure when the disconnect to change the name occurred, but American football was always called football since mid-1870s(?) or so when competitions and rules were developed at universities and it quickly became a very popular national sport alongside baseball. "Soccer" wasn't ever huge on popularity, in comparison at the time so that's likely when the name was changed. Maybe I'll research and get back with ya'll

I think it's crazy, only the American's can Invent a game where you throw the ball 🏈 all over the pitch and then running with it, and they call it Football.

Football in this country and around the world is called football because use your foot to kick the ball, which is why it's called football. 🥴
 

andrew.roberts

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It used to be called soccer in the UK as well. It comes from association.
Yes, I remember we always referred to the game as soccer back in the sixties and possibly into the seventies without fear of admonishment.
I find it strange how much it upsets people given all the American lingo that has established itself into our language when it is word originally belonging to our vocabulary.
It makes my skin crawl when I hear people say "can I get this or that" when ordering a drink, I'd love to hear a barman (barperson?) reply with "No, I'll get it for you, that's what I'm paid to do". Don't even get me started on the word "guys"..
Yes I know I'm a miserable old twat....
 

JohnWH

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Sorry Evo1883..... didn't mean to stir up a soccer v football debate. So let's put the topic to bed.

But from one source,


"One of the best-known differences between British and American English is the fact that the sport known as football in Great Britain is usually called soccer in the United States. Because the sport originated in England, it is often assumed that soccer is an Americanism. In fact, the word is thoroughly British in origin. So why is it that Americans (not to mention Canadians, Australians, and others) are likelier to use the word than Brits are? The answer lies in how the sport developed in each country.


Although football-type games have been around for centuries, the sport we know today is often said to have begun in 1863, when England’s newly formed Football Association wrote down a set of rules. At the time, it was the most widely played game of its kind in the country, but it wasn’t the only one. Rugby football, named after an English boarding school, was a variation that allowed players to carry and run with the ball to advance it toward the goal. The game played under the Football Association’s rules thus became known as association football.


Inevitably, the names would be shortened. Linguistically creative students at the University of Oxford in the 1880s distinguished between the sports of “rugger” (rugby football) and “assoccer” (association football). The latter term was further shortened to “soccer” (sometimes spelled “socker”), and the name quickly spread beyond the campus. However, “soccer” never became much more than a nickname in Great Britain. By the 20th century, rugby football was more commonly called rugby, while association football had earned the right to be known as just plain football.



Meanwhile, in the United States, a sport emerged in the late 19th century that borrowed elements of both rugby and association football. Before long, it had proved more popular than either of them. In full, it was known as gridiron football, but most people never bothered with the first word. As a result, American association-football players increasingly adopted soccer to refer to their sport. The United States Football Association, which had formed in the 1910s as the official organizing body of American soccer, changed its name to the United States Soccer Football Association in 1945, and it later dispensed with the “Football” altogether. No longer just a nickname, soccer had stuck.


Other countries where the word soccer is common include those that, like the United States, have competing forms of football. For instance, Canada has its own version of gridiron football; Ireland is home to Gaelic football; and Australia is mad about Australian rules football (which is derived from rugby). In places where football can be ambiguous, soccer is usefully precise.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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The Rugby Football Union? Rugby Football League?
This has reminded me of a small project in uni that, totally irrationally, still irks me when it pops into my head.

We had to make a newspaper based around our course/dept, with all the usual sections/stories etc. It included sport, but they said it couldn't be football as everyone would do that.

My group chose to stage a shove ha'penny tournament between ourselves as something different, but when we handed it in they said it was 'table football' so wasn't eligible. I got rather annoyed and pointed out table football was something completely different and what we'd played had nothing to do with football other than trying to get an object into a goal, like numerous sports such as hockey, handball, water polo. Still said it didn't count.

When I find out the next group have done rugby I was almost apoplectic and pointed out quite vociferously that it's officially called rugby football. But they said it's fine.

After that I was arguing the toss about every single little thing with them and it was clear they didn't like me much. And I'm glad.
 

napolimp

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Taking a wholly glass half full look at the league, if we manage to average 1 loss in 5 throughout the rest of the season - as we've begun - then we would finish with a total of 9 losses. No team has ever finished outside the play-offs with 9 or less losses across the season.
 

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