Excellent Post !
It's not my personal view but it applies to others, and I totally get it.
But we were there long enough for some to have broken the habits of a life time. And if those people realise that they've enjoy a game of golf more, or meeting the friends straight down the pub instead of the match, or digging the allotment, or taking the kids out for a bike ride, or banging the woman next door while her husband was in Northampton watching City, then it's going to take more than a cheap season ticket to get them back. Because all the magic of footy, everything that made you fall in love with the game when you were a kid has changed or turned to habit. And when the habit is broken or the magic has gone, then going up the footy is purely an entertainment competing against all other entertainments, and City hasn't been entertaining for quite a while
It's not my personal view but it applies to others, and I totally get it.
But we were there long enough for some to have broken the habits of a life time. And if those people realise that they've enjoy a game of golf more, or meeting the friends straight down the pub instead of the match, or digging the allotment, or taking the kids out for a bike ride, or banging the woman next door while her husband was in Northampton watching City, then it's going to take more than a cheap season ticket to get them back. Because all the magic of footy, everything that made you fall in love with the game when you were a kid has changed or turned to habit. And when the habit is broken or the magic has gone, then going up the footy is purely an entertainment competing against all other entertainments, and City hasn't been entertaining for quite a while
What has been said is Wasps did what SISU should have done.
Some poster mentioned a bond that was set in stone was broken when we went to Northampton. Hardly set in stone then?
Bet that bond will magically be repaired if we get to the 3rd round of the cup and draw Chelsea at the Ricoh.
That's just childish and pathetic. How many matches did you go last year ?
Agree with your sentiment weeman, now is a time for positivity and support. I think others are giving pretty well thought out answers as to why this may be harder this time.
Got to say, comments like Nicks I find particularly unhelpful (though he's not the worst culprit, just the one in this thread). You're not going to bring people back to the fold by insulting them. If having a successful club is more important than feeding your superfan complex, then all should be made to feel welcome, not kicked for their allegiance not being strong enough ("where are all the armchair fans" "not set in stone enough" etc).
Like it or not Northampton did long term damage. Any way forward has to accept that and find a way to work through it, not keep the divides open. That includes the club as much as anyone else.
So you think if we drew Chelsea at home the attendance wouldn't suddenly shoot up?
I probably went to around 5 home matches last season without going back and looking at the fixture list. I'd assumed we'd be in Northampton all season so volunteered to work a lot of weekends which I couldn't then change. Not sure what relevance that has to this discussion though as I didn't have a season ticket before we went to Northampton either.
The relevance is that you often shoot down posters views who before Northampton had season tickets for decades and trivialise their apathy and disgust at SISU as people just looking for an excuse not to go. Of course there would be huge interest if a big club came to Coventry, that's just human nature. You seem to have a thinly disguised sympathy for our owners like a handful of others on here but you are hugely in the minority to the tune of 85%/15%. I could get over the dirty deeds of these sharks if some didn't keep making excuses for them and trying to blame almost everyone else including previously very loyal fans !
Bet that bond will magically be repaired if we get to the 3rd round of the cup and draw Chelsea at the Ricoh.
The relevance is that you often shoot down posters views who before Northampton had season tickets for decades and trivialise their apathy and disgust at SISU as people just looking for an excuse not to go. Of course there would be huge interest if a big club came to Coventry, that's just human nature. You seem to have a thinly disguised sympathy for our owners like a handful of others on here but you are hugely in the minority to the tune of 85%/15%. I could get over the dirty deeds of these sharks if some didn't keep making excuses for them and trying to blame almost everyone else including previously very loyal fans !
That's just childish and pathetic. How many matches did you go last year ?
Would SISU not be our owners if the big club came to play us or would people not be disgusted then?
I can totally understand the people who are disgusted so don't go, the people who think it is too expensive, the people who think we play rubbish so don't want to go. Just don't understand when it can change based on the opposition.
It isn't sympathy for anybody, if people are saying they won't go and watch us play against Fleetwood at home because they hate SISU or it is too expensive then surely it is the same if we played Chelsea? The same as when people did everything they could to not give SISU a penny, until we played Arsenal.
That's total BS. I am no fan of our owners but support the team irrespective of who the owners are. The people I have issue with are those using SISU as a convenient excuse not to go. If people don't want to go because the football is shit or they have better things to do then just say that. SISU is just the latest in a list of excuses, we've had location of the Ricoh, parking, not going until the manager is sacked and so on.
If the bond had really been broken by being at Northampton they wouldn't be there for the first match back and wouldn't be there in the event we have another 'big' game.
Who are these 15% of supporters who favour SISU, I can only think of one.
I don't know why it's difficult to understand, the more connect and love you feel to the club the more you want to go each week, the less important costs become, the less important it is that the team arn't playing well, the opposition is poor that the weather is crap, the less you know the players, the more you hate the owners and the direction the club has been taken the harder it is and the less willing you are to overlook it when the product is crap.
This is all normal human behaviour and critasicing it doesn't help, it just drives an even bigger us and them feeling that needs to be stamped out.
I don't know why it's difficult to understand, the more connect and love you feel to the club the more you want to go each week, the less important costs become, the less important it is that the team arn't playing well, the opposition is poor that the weather is crap, the less you know the players, the more you hate the owners and the direction the club has been taken the harder it is and the less willing you are to overlook it when the product is crap.
This is all normal human behaviour and critasicing it doesn't help, it just drives an even bigger us and them feeling that needs to be stamped out.
Like I said, I totally understand that.
My point is, does that suddenly change if we get Chelsea?
It isn't a them and us thing, I thought we were all CCFC supporters?
Bet that bond will magically be repaired if we get to the 3rd round of the cup and draw Chelsea at the Ricoh.
I love the CCFC is the only club in the world to have fickle fan's type posts. That's just football fans full stop. I bet even Man U, Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool etc. all have fans who only turn up when they're playing Man U, Chelsea blah blah blah.
That's football. Get over it.
Ultimately though Noggin, isn't just a case of 11 players on a Saturday afternoon, wearing a Sky Blue Football kit representing the club/city? That's all that should matter.
I don't think you do understand my point because I was explaining why it changes when we get Chelsea.
Lets say you enjoy going to the cinema but the local cinema is £15 a ticket, only has one screen and the owner has a different taste in movies to you, the floors are sticky, the seats are uncomfortable, the popcorn is overpriced and there is often kids talking over the movie so when they are showing pitch perfect 2 you don't go, when they are showing the new starwars movie that is getting reviews better than the original trilogy suddenly all the crap that makes the cinema unappealing is outweighed by your desire to see the movie, you have a fantastic time but when they are showing Valentines day 2 well you aren't going back.
Yes we are all CCFC supporters thats my point, sarcy comments or worse directed at those who at the current time arn't enjoying going to the football but would be tempted by a premiership game isn't helpful and just increases the wedge that has formed between us all.
Then you are a star wars fan and not a cinema supporter. I would suggest if people are more interested in going to watch Chelsea play they should have a look at getting a season ticket there.
When people are giving it the moral highground like NOPM and making the point of going on internet forums and comment sections at every chance to say why they refuse to go as if it is an achievement. Then say that the loyal and committed fans will come back when we get a big game or start doing well, hence I pointed out it was ironic.
I was honestly baffled by the CCFC Supports comments about the cheaper tickets, I wonder what would be said if they put the prices up?
F*ck me....this is a bloody depressing thread! I'm not saying we should be lording it over the owners for doing something right at long last but with the prices and getting TM to sign, that's certainly a step in the right direction.
Some poster mentioned a bond that was set in stone was broken when we went to Northampton. Hardly set in stone then?
Another (might have been the same one) talked about the feeling you got as a kid when you walked to HR for a match and they don't get that now. Off course not, you're a bloody adult!! I bet you every nipper under 11/12 yrs old loves going to the Ricoh to see us play. They'll see things differently to us adults.
I get people not wanting to throw money at a sinking ship, I really do and I appreciate peoples finances are probably tighter than they've ever been. But for once, just once, there seems to be a little bit of positivity around the place. It's all we've got to cling on to!
I thought you just said there is no us and them and we are all ccfc supporters, it's clear that isn't how you feel.
There is no us and them, people who go to watch because ccfc are playing are city fans. People who would only go to watch because Chelsea are playing are ccfc supporters too?
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