robbiekeane
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Its hardly that they don’t “give a shit about educational damage” is it. It’s obviously an attempt to reduce risk.
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chiefdave
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Shocking news, another for the 'nobody could have predicted this' pile 
news.sky.com
Coronavirus: Revealed - the impact Eat Out to Help Out had on infection rates
Research suggests that between 8% and 17% of newly detected infection clusters can be linked to the scheme.
Of course something like that could have been developed. The internet is already a wealth of educational information. Like you say would have been relatively easy to have a national effort and a lot of the people who could have been involved producing it weren’t working at the time, like the creatives you mention.
shmmeee
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That’s why I think it needs a National approach. Make a set of online lessons that in theory a kid could follow, have trained support staff kids can dial into and pastoral staff checking in. It won’t be perfect and won’t match exactly, but not much different from a kid transferring schools having been taught differently. Work with exam boards to produce the same for exam subjects where possible.
Then when all this is over think of the quality of resource and revision guides and the rest that we’d have.
I’d happily to some exam marking style remote marking as well while we’re all locked down. There’s markers and retired teachers and furloughed or out of work creatives that could have massively lent a hand. Same as with the idea of using empty office space. Just no imagination at all.
Of course something like that could have been developed. The internet is already a wealth of educational information. Like you say would have been relatively easy to have a national effort and a lot of the people who could have been involved producing it weren’t working at the time, like the creatives you mention.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Reduce risk to who exactly, schools have already spread the infection around and the quality of education being provided is worse despite it supposedly being a top priority.
But isn’t the issue that (as shown by the El Pais article yesterday) that somebody projecting their voice across a room is the most effective transmission scenario and they are trying to prevent that? Same reason they won’t open theatres.
Coronavirus strain from Spain accounts for most UK cases – study
Experts say UK’s travel policy in summer was flawed as ‘the virus moves when people move’
Brighton Sky Blue
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Guess what I have to end up doing when I’m stuck in a box trying to teach a practical subject with minimal practical work available
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The Spanish virusCoronavirus strain from Spain accounts for most UK cases – study
Experts say UK’s travel policy in summer was flawed as ‘the virus moves when people move’www.theguardian.com
fernandopartridge
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The droplets in Spain cause mainly fear and pain
chiefdave
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Its so frustrating seeing things like this. We simply shouldn't be seeing report after report showing things the government chose to ignore the science on coming back to bite us.Coronavirus strain from Spain accounts for most UK cases – study
Experts say UK’s travel policy in summer was flawed as ‘the virus moves when people move’
Brighton Sky Blue
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I have to project my voice more because I’m not allowed to go to the students. They can do whatever with each other of course
fernandopartridge
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Make no mistake, the government will absolve itself of any blame in this. It will fall squarely on holidaymakers. Not that this has been peer reviewed in any case.
More reason to move online. I would have thought at least they could rig up a microphone and speaker though.
Who could have predicted that people moving between countries would have spread a pathogen.Coronavirus strain from Spain accounts for most UK cases – study
Experts say UK’s travel policy in summer was flawed as ‘the virus moves when people move’
Brighton Sky Blue
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How do you suggest I teach a practical subject online for a year? Or in school but with no ability to do practical work?
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We know what's coming then. Too late, and too long as a result, meaning we'll open up again too early...
Brighton Sky Blue
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At the very least, you'd think we'd be set for a six week Christmas holiday, wouldn't you, with plenty of homework.
Homework that could have a fighting chance of being set if notice were given by, say, the start of November...
chiefdave
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Haven't you answered your own question there. If you have no ability to carry out the practical work in the current setup what difference does it make if it moves online.
Friend of mine's daughter lives in the states and they were told in the summer high school students won't be back until next year at the earliest. I'll ask her what they are doing about this sort of thing.
Surely there has to be a way around it, might not be ideal but theses aren't ideal times. You can do distance learning degrees in practical subjects, how do they handle it?
Brighton Sky Blue
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I have made the point before we should be out of school because the learning experience is shit either way. Practical subjects done by distance learning would still have you go to a local provider to do things like lab work. Being able to do it is an essential part of the subject
Brighton Sky Blue
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My classes complain at getting homework anyway, that should be fun
chiefdave
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Reminds me of the misattributed Einstein quote, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results".
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They're schoolchildren, their job is to complain at being asked to do some work.
Brighton Sky Blue
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They’re also forgetting Goering’s actual quote about how to obtain support for things people don’t actually want
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Sky Blue Pete
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Why wait again!!!!!!
fernandopartridge
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I think they're taking an adult talking to a child approach to it, i.e. "if you don't stay at home voluntarily (apart from working, shopping and all the other things our paymasters want) we'll reluctantly impose it on you (and for a long time again because we've fucked it right up again like the mendacious, Tory fuckwits we are)."
clint van damme
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probably got to get on with swindling another local authority out of some cash for his mates first.
Sky Blue Pete
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I don’t get it. Where the fuck is Boris who is running the country?
Why is chris whitty being quiet or valance quiet
Someone needs to take control. These tiers are not reducing transmission enough. Look at macron and merkel. Macron also mobilising the military to protect oap’s praying in churches from fundamental fuckwits
If we are content with r at 1.5 until
Hospitals are over run then say so
If we are doing the great barrington stuff then say.
Why was shielding an option earlier and not now. Do we no longer care? Or was it pointless before?
You either teach the theory and demonstrate via video, teach what you can online and hope the practical aspects can be squeezed in later or students lose out on that practical teaching.
What is the subject?
Brighton Sky Blue
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One of the sciences
Sky Blue Pete
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Glimmer of hope even as Covid cases rise
Cases are levelling off in the north east of England, even as they rise overall.
www.bbc.co.uk