Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (12 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

Pillar 1 and 2 and case specimen date of 9/11

I was wrong on it, I'd looked at the wrong data.

Something is awry, there number of tests taken on 9th Nov was 228k , so no more than 114k people yet 27k positive. Terrible. Even with lockdown well on the way towards 1k deaths a day by the end of the month.

 

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[David O'Day]

How do you mean'not fully paying in' ?

because you are not paying VAT in and supporting smaller city centre businesses.

 

[CCFCSteve]

I was wrong on it, I'd looked at the wrong data.

Something is awry, there number of tests taken on 9th Nov was 228k , so no more than 114k people yet 27k positive. Terrible. Even with lockdown well on the way towards 1k deaths a day by the end of the month.

There was also 380k of tests yesterday and 23k confirmed cases. As Powis said today, don’t just look at single days in isolation, look at all of the data including that various sampling surveys (most of which are indicating the spread is slowing and R rate reducing...although there will always be a lag on hospital admissions and deaths)

I don’t dispute that unfortunately deaths will remain high for a while yet, but there are various sources suggesting numbers should start to fall in the coming days. Fingers crossed anyway.

 

[wingy]

because you are not paying VAT in and supporting smaller city centre businesses.

Yes I expected VAT would take a hit .
But it's not prescribed that we have to purchase our lunch and snacks , I've done sandwiches and a flask most of my working life.
It may be nice to do it the other way and I'd like poeple to keep supporting service industry ,but punishing and cajoling poeple because they're conserving isn't the way.
Whatever the outcome those businesses are going to have to change and adapt .

 

[fernandopartridge]

because you are not paying VAT in and supporting smaller city centre businesses.

Eh? The VAT is just collected on goods and services purchased elsewhere. I work from home and spend no less than I did commuting, I just spend it on other things.

The Deutsche Bank proposal is about protecting their large scale property investment interests. Property speculation harms productive investment.

 

[chiefdave]

This isn't exactly inspiring confidence

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

This isn't exactly inspiring confidence

It’s almost like flipping off Europe to not really make anything better wasn’t worth it

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Me, the wife & kids went to do our civic duty and got a walk-up test last night.....I was a little hesitant as a +ve test would properly scupper my business & income.....but for the greater good and all that....
3 of our 4 results (all negative) were back within 1/2 hr.....still waiting on my youngest's result so not sure whats happened there....bit of a tech glitch I expect.

So far Liverpool have now done about 90K tests as part of the mass testing pilot.....454 positives to date.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Me, the wife & kids went to do our civic duty and got a walk-up test last night.....I was a little hesitant as a +ve test would properly scupper my business & income.....but for the greater good and all that....
3 of our 4 results (all negative) were back within 1/2 hr.....still waiting on my youngest's result so not sure whats happened there....bit of a tech glitch I expect.

So far Liverpool have now done about 90K tests as part of the mass testing pilot.....454 positives to date.

The cases per 100k diminishing as they do more actual tests, interesting but probably the effect of testing more people who are entirely asymptomatic.

 

[tisza]

A WFH tax is completely unworkable.

And we want people working from home, why would we discourage it? Less waste, less CO2. I’d rather tax those companies having an office for no good reason TBH.

Just tax Amazon already. We know that’s where the money went

it's a bit ironic. For years Govts, tech etc have been saying the future was more working from home - tech improvements, 5G broadband, better quality of family life, less pressure on transport networks etc. Now it's here they don't like it.

 

[tisza]

We're now under curfew 8pm until 5 am unless you have an employers certificate saying you're working or a medical situation. Everything bar pharmacies have to close by 7. Secondary schools upwards closed again - back to online.
Death rate has been higher than UK per 100.000 people.

 

[fernandopartridge]

We're now under curfew 8pm until 5 am unless you have an employers certificate saying you're working or a medical situation. Everything bar pharmacies have to close by 7. Secondary schools upwards closed again - back to online.
Death rate has been higher than UK per 100.000 people.

Are smoking rates higher there? I assume so

 

[Nick]

Is it a bank holiday today? Seems rammed everywhere.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Is it a bank holiday today? Seems rammed everywhere.

Everyone ‘working from home’

 

[Nick]

Everyone ‘working from home’

There are people queuing outside shops all over, traffic is horrendous.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Nah we’re in lockdown

 

[TomRad85]

I've just claimed tax relief online, easy to do tbf.

First time I've been glad I skimmed through this thread. Just done this, cheers.

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[Kieranp96]

First time I've been glad I skimmed through this thread. Just done this, cheers.

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Is tax relief, tax rebate? I've been at home Since the start working and only been on 80% wage for full time work, so if I'm able to claim tax back might actually make up. The money I lost from being paid less.

 

[TomRad85]

Is tax relief, tax rebate? I've been at home Since the start working and only been on 80% wage for full time work, so if I'm able to claim tax back might actually make up. The money I lost from being paid less.

Tax relief. Its not much mate but it'll cover your monthly phone bill or something.

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[Kieranp96]

Tax relief. Its not much mate but it'll cover your monthly phone bill or something.

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Ah, worth the time or just leave it?

 

[TomRad85]

Ah, worth the time or just leave it?

Takes 5 mins, so worth it i would say.

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

because you are not paying VAT in and supporting smaller city centre businesses.

But then isn't private enterprise supposed to be about adapting to change better and those that do thrive and take the place of those that don't?

For example, if you're not supporting smaller city centre businesses (even though many offices etc are now out-of-town business parks and city centres are largely full of chain outlets) you could instead be supporting businesses on your local high st by getting lunch etc from shops near your house. Unneeded commercial property etc could be replaced with housing/apartments which we know are undersupplied. This allows city centre to reimagine themelves as areas people live in again with greater access to things like entertainment on the doorstep. It could rejuvenate them massively and make them quite desirable.

There's huge potential and opportunities in making the change.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Ah, worth the time or just leave it?

It's easy and adds £300 to your personal allowance, not sure how that will impact on bottom line but it's better than fuck all

 

[Johnnythespider]

Is tax relief, tax rebate? I've been at home Since the start working and only been on 80% wage for full time work, so if I'm able to claim tax back might actually make up. The money I lost from being paid less.

If you've been working from home why are you only being paid 80% pay

 

[Kieranp96]

If you've been working from home why are you only being paid 80% pay

Idk, got a email back in March about it, was either that or to be let go, I know which one I'm choosing + there's an actual article in the paper about it was suppose to Rise to 90% this month but with furlough being extended I doubt it.

Auto Windscreens owner imposes pay cut on staff unilaterally

Questions over legality of move by Markerstudy Group which employs about 3,000 staff

www.google.com

 

[tisza]

Are smoking rates higher there? I assume so

Yep. That's why sales were basically nationalised

 

[Ian1779]

Our school have put 40% of the school population out on a 2 week ‘firebreak’ on the advice of PHE, because we have had a cluster of cases (11 confirmed positive so far with more waiting for results) across 2 years group that can be directly traced to one another.

We have 565 kids out of school because of coronavirus currently.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Our school have put 40% of the school population out on a 2 week ‘firebreak’ on the advice of PHE, because we have had a cluster of cases (11 confirmed positive so far with more waiting for results) across 2 years group that can be directly traced to one another.

We have 565 kids out of school because of coronavirus currently.

You would know better than I, but that sounds harder to administer, and less fair to pupils, than sending everybody home for a lockdown.

 

[wingy]

Covid: Children more likely to be infected in second wave - BBC News

Evidence presented to government confirmed rising infections as schools reopened.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Johnnythespider]

They sent years 5&6 home from my wife's school the other day as one of the kids in 6 tested positive, year 5 were back the next day, the council advised sending home only those children who had been within 2 meters of the infected child, the way this is being handled and the pressure being put on teachers to minimise the numbers off school doesn't fill me with confidence that my wife isn't being placed in unnecessary risk.

 

[wingy]

They sent years 5&6 home from my wife's school the other day as one of the kids in 6 tested positive, year 5 were back the next day, the council advised sending home only those children who had been within 2 meters of the infected child, the way this is being handled and the pressure being put on teachers to minimise the numbers off school doesn't fill me with confidence that my wife isn't being placed in unnecessary risk.

The responses seem to have been watered down from the heavily publicised reactions bandied about during the summer .
Much watering down IMO .

 

[wingy]

Covid: Criticism over Wales self-isolation payment delay

The plans were announced in September but were delayed because of a "practical challenge".

www.bbc.com

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

USA in a really bad way and places like Poland Ukraine and Hungary for the first time

So excited to see anti Vaxers praising trump by getting the vaccine quick smart

 

[Ian1779]

You would know better than I, but that sounds harder to administer, and less fair to pupils, than sending everybody home for a lockdown.

There is certainly an unfairness to it all no doubt. The whole of Year 11 have been placed out until the 27th November - but nearly all of them have already been out for self isolating since mid October. That’s the year group that has the biggest cluster of cases and they all link together.
It’s now time to stop pretending that exams can be delivered to them next summer in the normal way.

 

[Grendel]

There is certainly an unfairness to it all no doubt. The whole of Year 11 have been placed out until the 27th November - but nearly all of them have already been out for self isolating since mid October. That’s the year group that has the biggest cluster of cases and they all link together.
It’s now time to stop pretending that exams can be delivered to them next summer in the normal way.

Can’t they have exams delayed until September and then delay university start times?