shmmeee
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Yeah most are 85-95% I believe.
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Yeah most are 85-95% I believe.
chiefdave
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Well over my head but there seems to be enough very intelligent people who know what they're on about getting very excited to indicate this is actually genuine good news and a light at the end of the tunnel.
shmmeee
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Yeah that’s where I am. The right people are getting excited by this, so I’ll get excited
David O'Day
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We are still looking at spring to summer before we can roll this out to enough people. We still need things like the AstraZeneca vaccine and others to come off as well if we want normality before then.
So with about 8.5 million people over the age of the 70, and 1.5 million NHS workers, the 10 million doses that the UK says it will have this year could have taken care of half of them by Christmas. Incredible stuff.
That's not even taking into account the other vaccines (working on similar principles) that are yet to announce results.
That's not even taking into account the other vaccines (working on similar principles) that are yet to announce results.
shmmeee
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This is the prioritisation apparently:
Looks like 10m doses, 2 per person, plus some waste, say 4m people conservatively. Enough to do NHS workers and care homes this winter which would make a massive difference. Much easier to roll out quickly in a medical or semi medical environment I’d guess.
Gets us over the hump then next year we can start getting to elderly vaccinated.
Nothing before Spring I’d guess in terms of back to normal. Whatever that ends up being.
Liquid Gold
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Already seen the nutters saying Bill Gates has shares in one of the companies.
Why the fuck would they go through all the effort of inventing a virus and then vaccinating us as a cover to put chips in our bodies when we carry round and charge our own tracking devices that listen to us all day.
Also if it's about mind control then bring it on, thinking is exhausting.
Why the fuck would they go through all the effort of inventing a virus and then vaccinating us as a cover to put chips in our bodies when we carry round and charge our own tracking devices that listen to us all day.
Also if it's about mind control then bring it on, thinking is exhausting.
David O'Day
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Especially as Pzifer didn't join any government schemes and spent billions on the R+D themselves.
David O'Day
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If the AstraZeneca results which are due very soon are positive you maybe able to duplicate the amount of vaccine does available which means you could also make a dent in the elderly population this winter as well.
Take some D3 and B12 for that, you'd be amazed,I wonder if they dare even take a daily supplement .
shmmeee
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Even if we can get enough for another 2.5m people that’s everyone who had to shield sorted.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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So expect Johnson's press conference to be that we're not taking up this vaccine cos we're going to develop our own world beating one, and that in relation to this we've just given an eleventy billion pound contract to a group venture between Serco and G4S to develop and administer it, all headed up by Dido Harding who will be Chairperson for Life. At which point she appears at the podium going "I...I...I.. wanna thank you, for giving me the best job of my life"
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I've set a reminder for 9pm. Like to make sure I'm settled early before it starts.
skybluetony176
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We’ve already spent £ 30-40M on reserving doses of this drug while in development. No chance that’s going to happen.
skybluetony176
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Didn’t take long for the Bill Gates, illuminati, going to use it to trace us all through microchips hidden in the vaccine right wing conspiracies to start.
fernandopartridge
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I assume these people are posting such conspiracies all over Facebook
Liquid Gold
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Facebook needs shutting down.
As does 'The School of Hard Knocks' and 'The University of Life' that keep knocking out classes of absolute fuck wits.
As does 'The School of Hard Knocks' and 'The University of Life' that keep knocking out classes of absolute fuck wits.
David O'Day
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This appears to be a press conference about a potentially promising vaccine.
Surely they should wait until the full results are in first? Just in case?
Surely they should wait until the full results are in first? Just in case?
clint van damme
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The more fucking idiots that refuse the more of them that will die and the more vaccine for everyone else. Win win
Grendel
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He will probably have had the vaccine so just as well
fernandopartridge
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Good! I had fears a PM with a reputation for being hopelessly optimistic, would be opening everything up pronto on the expectation.
Sky Blue Pete
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Vaccine looks great - cautious optimism
robbiekeane
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I think the thing is, to an extent, the timing is almost less important than there just being a light at the end of the tunnel. Of course we would all prefer it to be sooner but it’s just such a morale boost to know that there’s an end in sight.
If someone told me that we had to continue social distancing etc until July 2021 but then it’s be completely back to life as we knew it, I’d bite their hand off
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ajsccfc
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If this all goes through swimmingly now I'm guess it'll be around Easter before I get a jab but I'd echo @robbiekeane above, just knowing there's a possible return to normality on the horizon is enough for me, I don't mind how long it takes to get there.
One vaccine being a success hopefully opens the floodgates for the others in testing now too
One vaccine being a success hopefully opens the floodgates for the others in testing now too
shmmeee
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Yeah it’s like anything isn’t it? It’s the lack of a light at the end of the tunnel that gets you.
Also I don’t think you need anything like everyone vaccinated before things get back to normal. Not bothered when I get it, but hope my Dad gets it in the next few months because then that’s a massive weight off my mind day to day. That’s huge.
Also I don’t think you need anything like everyone vaccinated before things get back to normal. Not bothered when I get it, but hope my Dad gets it in the next few months because then that’s a massive weight off my mind day to day. That’s huge.
fernandopartridge
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Yeah, same for me. Get my parents vaccinated and I'll feel OK.
chiefdave
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Spot on. I can sit in the house for a few months if I know that around spring things will be looking up. Not like anything I'd normally do is operational. That's very different to sitting in the house with no idea when you'll next be able to see a match, gig etc.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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On a less optimistic note, the initial figures coming out from Liverpools mass testing for asymptomatic cases look troublingly low.....
First tranche of 23K tests revealed just 154 +ve cases ! That <1% !
Now, to me this screams of poor test quality.
It may simply be that the lateral flow tests are utter shite & not fit for purpose.
It may be that as they are "self test" procedures, that the general public are simply not sticking the swabs in or up far enough!
(having had a proper test administered by a nurse, I know it to be very unpleasant & uncomfortable bordering on slightly painful experience if done correctly)
It may be that the demographic of those volunteering for the tests so far happen to be all the good & very cautions citizens who have kept strictly to all the rules & limited their exposure to a bare minimum.
It may be a combo of all of the above, but something doesn't stack up.
This could be potentially catastrophic for the city if there are thousands of false negative folk now heading off to visit their grandparents & family in care homes etc.
They have started mass testing on secondary schools now, so in theory, that rate should shoot up ......watch this space.....
First tranche of 23K tests revealed just 154 +ve cases ! That <1% !
Now, to me this screams of poor test quality.
It may simply be that the lateral flow tests are utter shite & not fit for purpose.
It may be that as they are "self test" procedures, that the general public are simply not sticking the swabs in or up far enough!
(having had a proper test administered by a nurse, I know it to be very unpleasant & uncomfortable bordering on slightly painful experience if done correctly)
It may be that the demographic of those volunteering for the tests so far happen to be all the good & very cautions citizens who have kept strictly to all the rules & limited their exposure to a bare minimum.
It may be a combo of all of the above, but something doesn't stack up.
This could be potentially catastrophic for the city if there are thousands of false negative folk now heading off to visit their grandparents & family in care homes etc.
They have started mass testing on secondary schools now, so in theory, that rate should shoot up ......watch this space.....
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For once (!) Johnson played it well too, emphasising it's not a done deal, plenty of time to go before all is rosy
Its a pilot so wouldn’t expect it to go perfectly, however those numbers would make rates in Liverpool being c600-700 per 100,000. I also heard yesterday they were saying as a country it’s about 1 in 90, so it actually sounds like it might not be far off.
Thats the problem with the media, they make it sound like everyone’s got it, they haven’t (even if the rates have increased a fair bit in recent weeks)
The interesting thing for me with the quick tests is they plan to roll out for all nhs and care workers to test themselves twice a week (so you catch asymptomatic cases) which will hopefully better protect those at higher risk