Totally agree. Most will take the 'easy' option of giving you a few pills and hoping that sorts things.I have found that the GPs have always been more interested in Doris with a cold (pre COVID) than mental health issues.
It's all well and good the campaigns saying "talk to somebody" but when you can't get into the doctors for a month (pre COVID) what are you meant to do?
Totally agree. Most will take the 'easy' option of giving you a few pills and hoping that sorts things.
Its a short term v long term issue. The best option is intensive one on one treatment which in the short term is expensive. The people in charge of the budgets are only concerned with balancing this years budget so will normally take the cheaper options, for example dishing out a few pills, even though over a lifetime that is likely to work out far more expensive.
I have found that the GPs have always been more interested in Doris with a cold (pre COVID) than mental health issues.
It's all well and good the campaigns saying "talk to somebody" but when you can't get into the doctors for a month (pre COVID) what are you meant to do?
I think it's probably because they're trained physicians. Most of their learning is on physical things and A causes B and can be cured by C in pretty much everyone because we're built the same. There is some variation but those rules on the whole hold true.
Mental health is completely different and every single brain will be wired pretty uniquely and a person reacts differently so your approach for one person may be effective but seemingly the same approach to the same issue in another would be catastrophic. It's a far harder process to get right.
Also with physical problems there's also a decent chance of being able to second guess the progression of any disease or injury, even if it's only as much as being able to estimate how long a person has left to live. There's a greater degree of certainty and being able to predict the future.
With mental health a person can seem absolutely fine, sometimes for years or even decades, then just completely break down without warning. That's more akin to working in A&E or in the worst cases ICU rather than GP practice. It's seat-of-the-pants doctoring and for even the most experienced it must be extremely stressful and difficult and it's really difficult to effectively monitor the progress of the patient as it relies heavily on what they're telling you with clues in behavioural patterns (if the doctor can find out about them) rather than what they can observe clinically.
Totally agree. Most will take the 'easy' option of giving you a few pills and hoping that sorts things.
Its a short term v long term issue. The best option is intensive one on one treatment which in the short term is expensive. The people in charge of the budgets are only concerned with balancing this years budget so will normally take the cheaper options, for example dishing out a few pills, even though over a lifetime that is likely to work out far more expensive.
The issue with that is that when you read online about other services, you often need referral from the GP so it is catch 22. You have to go back to them to open up the door to other services which are now swamped as well.
At least we had a few weeks of "normality" over the summer but if it's going to be another longterm lockdown it may be easier just to find a drug problem and be spaced out the whole time. It wouldn't surprise me if lots of people have turned to drugs and booze
I don't think it's a coincidence that any article on the bbc about drinking in lockdown instantly goes to the top of the most read column.I fear you may be right. A lot of people have said they've been drinking a lot more.
Just to clarify, I agree (and hope) that the restrictions are having an affect....the regional tier threes were before the National lockdown by all accounts. I was saying if they end up having to apply further/stricter measures I would start to question, the effectiveness of some of the measures currently implemented.
Ps it’s a bit more than people not being able to go to the pub though shmmeee ! (As detailed in previous posts).
The issue with that is that when you read online about other services, you often need referral from the GP so it is catch 22. You have to go back to them to open up the door to other services which are now swamped as well.
At least we had a few weeks of "normality" over the summer but if it's going to be another longterm lockdown it may be easier just to find a drug problem and be spaced out the whole time. It wouldn't surprise me if lots of people have turned to drugs and booze
This is exactly how I think it will go down. It’s out there in the media for a reason.5 day free for all at Christmas could mean 25 days extra restrictions according to the news.
I said that the chief exec at one of the local councils was suggesting a couple of weeks ago that we'd be 'let out' for Christmas, then shut away again until the end of February. Looks like this has been in the works for a while.This is exactly how I think it will go down. It’s out there in the media for a reason.
I said that the chief exec at one of the local councils was suggesting a couple of weeks ago that we'd be 'let out' for Christmas, then shut away again until the end of February. Looks like this has been in the works for a while.
Personally I'd rather be shut up for Christmas, and have less restrictions sooner, afterwards. I suppose that very probably makes me the minority however but... I wouldn't fancy being one of the people in contact with those venturing out to do their shopping etc straight after this all pans out.
I said that the chief exec at one of the local councils was suggesting a couple of weeks ago that we'd be 'let out' for Christmas, then shut away again until the end of February. Looks like this has been in the works for a while.
Personally I'd rather be shut up for Christmas, and have less restrictions sooner, afterwards. I suppose that very probably makes me the minority however but... I wouldn't fancy being one of the people in contact with those venturing out to do their shopping etc straight after this all pans out.
That's from SAGE isn't it? For every one day of loser restrictions an extra 5 days of tighter restrictions.5 day free for all at Christmas could mean 25 days extra restrictions according to the news.
Is anyone hearing anything about schools closing ?
Can people still go on holiday?
In the paper about Mel Sykes travelling to Italy to see her toyboy. How the fuck does that work?
From 5 November to 2 December 2020, travelling away from home, including internationally, is restricted from England except in limited circumstances such as for work or for education.
The FCDO advises against all but essential travel to the whole of Italy based on the current assessment of COVID-19 risks.
If you are returning to the UK from Italy, you will need to self-isolate on your return (unless you are exempt).
Hows this work?
Melanie Sykes, 50, shares smooch with gondolier lover, 23
The TV star was helped out of the vessel by handsome boatman Riccardo before they wrapped their arms around each other and shared a smooch beside the water.www.dailymail.co.uk
No but it's in both the little uns school's .Is anyone hearing anything about schools closing ?
That seems to be how it works .There's still flights so I guess they won't stop you going but you'll just have to isolate on return
That's what I don't get.That seems to be how it works .
Seems it's up to yourself how to define essential.
You’re tested upon arrival at airports.Hows this work?
Melanie Sykes, 50, shares smooch with gondolier lover, 23
The TV star was helped out of the vessel by handsome boatman Riccardo before they wrapped their arms around each other and shared a smooch beside the water.www.dailymail.co.uk
We were frustratingly close from suppressing it to a proper low last time out though, would have probably only taken a couple more weeks. That could have given us more leeway this time out, made it far easier to relax for Christmas.
Wouldn't you say a bit longer / tougher restriction in exchange for releasing them for longer / releasing more restrictions is a fair exchange?
It'd be pretty careless to open everything up early for Christmas if the consequence of that was we all shut down forever and a day afterwards, wouldn't it?
I read yesterday there have been fines handed to people using Eurotunnel without a reasonable explanation.That's what I don't get.
I can't nip to my mates house but we could both fly to a different country?
Quite a big drop in cases today and even a reduction in admittances, hopefully a sign of things starting to turn. Residual infection rates will be high for a while though so be silly to come out of this lockdown until they're down.
This is exactly how I think it will go down. It’s out there in the media for a reason.
No I still have to go to work in a COVID factory and having everything else shut makes things twice as miserable. At least give me something to be cheerful about. The right answer was of course close schools but we are past the point of no return there
Can't possibly imagine what is causing thatInfection rates in 10-19 have risen in the last week
Can't possibly imagine what is causing that
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