bezzer
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Stratford residents use Stratford and Warwick Hospitals (South Warwickshire Foundation Trust). My wife works at Warwick Hospital as a Physio and you're right, it is again under pressure.
But Warwick is tied to Walsgrave, and it's having an impact on Warwick hospital too, that's getting more full. The rate has also been climbing back in Warwick, too. Dunno what hospital Stratford uses, but I have more sympathy with them, as they look more to Oxfordshire etc.
It's denying them treatment less than if you didn't have restrictions!It is denying them treatment if you say they can’t go in and receive it. It’s equivalent to me denying a percentage of my classes being in the room
I believe the rising case rate in Warwick is down to rises in schools in that area
It's denying them treatment less than if you didn't have restrictions!
The same as other treatment is denied because of other diseases, it's always a balancing act!
It doesn't make it good, but it's an attempt to find the least shit. Such is pragmatism.
The cases in the over 60's in Warwick are rising so it's not due solely to school children.
It’s denying people treatment for serious illness for fear of catching the great asymptomatic virus. Yes I’m being emotional with it I just see and hear the stories and find it baffling .
It spreads from children to their relatives. As the government is now finally conceding with their phased return announcement
Yes I know that, but not every school child goes and sees Granny and Grandad. Blaming the Government for people who don't follow the guidelines isn't helpful. My children haven't seen their over 60's Grandparents since March; ergo my wife and I haven't seen our parents either.
that's a bit flippant to be honest and for someone who moans about their lot as much as you you shouldn't be so cavalier about other peoples health. Especially when people on here have suffered, known people who have suffered or in one tragic case died.
Forcing people to be alone at Christmas, as Chris Whitty wants, is something I can’t defend. Denying cancer patients treatment or even scans, not allowing people to receive medication for other conditions etc. All in case the great asymptomatic are unleashed.
I know I’m being irrational but I’m beyond sick and tired of it
Yes I know that, but not every school child goes and sees Granny and Grandad. Blaming the Government for people who don't follow the guidelines isn't helpful. My children haven't seen their over 60's Grandparents since March; ergo my wife and I haven't seen our parents either.
As above I know I’m being irrational I’m just worn out and frustrated.
As above I know I’m being irrational I’m just worn out and frustrated.
The people being treated will be most at risk, as their immune systems will be compromised, and they'll be weakened.It’s denying people treatment for serious illness for fear of catching the great asymptomatic virus. Yes I’m being emotional with it I just see and hear the stories and find it baffling .
We all are.
There are lots of people exposed to Covid risk. I'm sympathetic, believe me (I've agreed with you many-a-time about school) but... for better or worse, you're not alone!Right, I just need to vent sometimes. Particularly when I have been exposed to blatant COVID risk for months and there’s a suggestion that teachers may be asked to administer COVID tests at school.
Particularly as I was calling for school closures months ago to stop this being a necessity
Its not irrational there are several areas of society where judgements are made regarding deaths and cost benefit analysis is used to see if the cost is worth actually paying. This is on a much bigger scale of course but the argument remains the same
It does. And it remains the case that something like 70k people have died in a year and none of the opposing arguments stack up. There’s not been a spike in suicides, there’s not been a spike in any other deaths. So it all comes down to one persons life versus another’s inconvenience.
You say you’re concerned about the impact of lockdown, but I never see you asking for the government, who has ordered it, to support people through it. Or for that matter to halt the self inflicted second recession due to kick in in January. So that rings a little hollow too.
Its not irrational there are several areas of society where judgements are made regarding deaths and cost benefit analysis is used to see if the cost is worth actually paying. This is on a much bigger scale of course but the argument remains the same
Yes, but the stats show it rose first most sharply in the under 30s, especially students and school children, then to older age groups. If one year group of 150 is compromised then it’s not hard to see how it all spreads further.
It's not dismissed at all. But... everybody has had a shit year. I could sit here and say how shit it is for me and people I know, but I don't think a competition would be healthy for me, or anybody else.Open up about finding it difficult and it’s used against you or dismissed because everybody is.
There are lots of people exposed to Covid risk. I'm sympathetic, believe me (I've agreed with you many-a-time about school) but... for better or worse, you're not alone!
Open up about finding it difficult and it’s used against you or dismissed because everybody is. Then the government finally concedes perhaps schools should close months after the horse has bolted.
If families followed the guidelines and used commonsense, then infections from school age children to the over 60's would be a lot smaller.
if the 150 infected year group had no contact with their elderly relatives then there would be no cross infection.
If you look at the infection rates for Warwick, the increase in infections for the under 60's mirrors that of the over 60's.
The answer seems to be that you become their babysitterThe practical issue is a large percentage of people cannot work from home. Therefore for younger children it’s an issue. Where I now work other than me no one can work from home and I choose not to
Right, I just need to vent sometimes. Particularly when I have been exposed to blatant COVID risk for months and there’s a suggestion that teachers may be asked to administer COVID tests at school.
Particularly as I was calling for school closures months ago to stop this being a necessity
I wasn’t talking about that I was responding to a point that sometimes deaths are considered collateral damage against costs
The practical issue is a large percentage of people cannot work from home. Therefore for younger children it’s an issue. Where I now work other than me no one can work from home and I choose not to
My wife has worked in a COVID ward (at Warwick hospital) so I know all about the risks. She's seen people die; young and old. Believe me, she also vents her anger, frustration and sadness. I'm usually her outlet for that outpouring, so forgive me if I ignore your venting.
Open up about finding it difficult and it’s used against you or dismissed because everybody is. Then the government finally concedes perhaps schools should close months after the horse has bolted.
They would still all take it home to their parents even without that. I had no objection to teaching remotely because what I can offer in school is crap anyway.
A close friend of mine is a doctor at the same hospital.
I don't know what you don't get? If those parents followed the guidelines and didn't see their parents, the cross infection wouldn't be lessened.
Not everything revolves around teachers and schools!
you're the one being dismissive mate, no one is doubting you've had it tough, many on here agree schools should have been shut. But you're the one spouting this asymptomatic bollocks to trivialise the situation.
Then you know what a shitty stick they have to hold.
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