Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (9 Viewers)

[wingy]

tbf, sounds more like issues with the flu jab, have to constantly modify vaccines to cope with new mutations, and that's an inevitability. Once the vaccine's there, in principle it shouldn't be hard to adapt it.

Haven't read myself but there seems to be a suggestion from somewhere in media that it may be more severe in younger folk.

 

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[Skybluefaz]

Cov local authority anticipating national lockdown including school closures. Tory incompetence is off the scale.

 

[Nick]

"tough tough lockdown is coming"

Why not just fucking do it now then dickhead so people know where they are? How can people plan for Tier 4 to then have to change again next week.

It's really pissing me off now.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

"tough tough lockdown is coming"

Why not just fucking do it now then dickhead so people know where they are? How can people plan for Tier 4 to then have to change again next week.

It's really pissing me off now.

You know why he hasn't done it yet.

 

[Nick]

You know why he hasn't done it yet.

Why?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

"tough tough lockdown is coming"

Why not just fucking do it now then dickhead so people know where they are? How can people plan for Tier 4 to then have to change again next week.

It's really pissing me off now.

Yup. The ridiculous thing is, if people were ordered to wfh, and they were worried about transmission, people could have stayed where they'd sodding ended up at Christmas rather than moving around the country again. And what's the point of letting a load of people back in for a couple of days, just to mix it about a bit?!?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Mrs. Wisdom's workplace take matters into their own hands and close their doors for this week, at least. Of course, half the staff were in the building to have the meeting about whether to close or not(!)

 

[Skybluefaz]

I'm working from home. Two members of my team of 5 have reported the have rona today. We'd have all got it if we were in the office.

 

[wingy]

Boris"just waiting on some numbers".
Yes bigger one's no doubt.

 

[wingy]

How can they study the number's that decide tier 4 is adequate when all education settings are shut and now are not.

 

[wingy]

The British public have been brilliant but are suffering from fatigue

So that's them blamed then .

 

[wingy]

Procrastinating twat,think it's not a failing ,but he has a ceiling and is happy to reach it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Why?

He's too scared

 

[chiefdave]

According to Matt Hancock in a Sky interview the government has often being accused of acting too quickly.

Don't know how he keeps a straight face coming out with stuff like that. From the start they've been behind, they implement things when the pressure gets too much and they have no other choice. Another prime example now where it looks like schools are going to be closed as local authorities, unions and staff take the lead while the government and opposition spend weeks insisting schools stay open.

How much better prepared would we be for school closures if everyone knew this was happening before the end of last term when it was being called for.

They’re not even getting pressured to do things by the opposition. Although I assume that Daniel Hewitt, ITV political correspondent, is taking the piss when he said Starmer has called for zoos to shut.

"tough tough lockdown is coming"

Why not just fucking do it now then dickhead so people know where they are? How can people plan for Tier 4 to then have to change again next week.

Lockdown is a rubbish term anyway, can mean anything. Even in our first lockdown we weren't subject to restrictions in the way some other countries have been and the most recent lockdown was even looser. Most of the country is in tier 4, what is the practical difference between restrictions in tier 4 and those in the last lockdown?

 

[Skybluefaz]

We're at a point where Jeremy Hunt sounds like the most sensible Tory

 

[Nick]

It's as if numbers are being manipulated.

Same as when they left London in Tier 2

I don't get why the borders aren't first to shut. Can't go to the gym or see my mates but I can fly to a country for the gym there and come back if I had the cash.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Don't know how he keeps a straight face coming out with stuff like that. From the start they've been behind, they implement things when the pressure gets too much and they have no other choice. Another prime example now where it looks like schools are going to be closed as local authorities, unions and staff take the lead while the government and opposition spend weeks insisting schools stay open.

How much better prepared would we be for school closures if everyone knew this was happening before the end of last term when it was being called for.

They’re not even getting pressured to do things by the opposition. Although I assume that Daniel Hewitt, ITV political correspondent, is taking the piss when he said Starmer has called for zoos to shut.

Lockdown is a rubbish term anyway, can mean anything. Even in our first lockdown we weren't subject to restrictions in the way some other countries have been and the most recent lockdown was even looser. Most of the country is in tier 4, what is the practical difference between restrictions in tier 4 and those in the last lockdown?

The man who described infecting care homes with Covid-19 as "throwing a protective ring around them". Total toss pot.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

If you are going to lockdown again you've got to make sure it is enforced otherwise too many people will continue to flout rules with no punishment.

France, Spain et al had police and possbily the army asking questions of leaving the house and people having to prove they were going to the supermarket/exercising/work.

I have no problem being under a marshall-like law and proving my innocence when asked if it helps curb the sread of the virus and keep the R number down.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

We're at a point where Jeremy Hunt sounds like the most sensible Tory

Ever since the leadership election, I've been thinking he's the kind of Tory I could handle being in charge.

How low have we sunk!

 

[Skybluefaz]

If you are going to lockdown again you've got to make sure it is enforced otherwise too many people will continue to flout rules with no punishment.

France, Spain et al had police and possbily the army asking questions of leaving the house and people having to prove they were going to the supermarket/exercising/work.

I have no problem being under a marshall-like law and proving my innocence when asked if it helps curb the sread of the virus and keep the R number down.

Absolutely, stop people coming in to the country. Police it properly and let's actually deal with it.

 

[Ian1779]

We're at a point where Jeremy Hunt sounds like the most sensible Tory

I know - it’s scary to think he was the guy that wanted to butcher the NHS to pieces when Health Secretary and now he sounds sane.

 

[Ian1779]

Absolutely, stop people coming in to the country. Police it properly and let's actually deal with it.

TaKe BaCk CoNtRoL...

 

[derbyskyblue]

If you are going to lockdown again you've got to make sure it is enforced otherwise too many people will continue to flout rules with no punishment.

France, Spain et al had police and possbily the army asking questions of leaving the house and people having to prove they were going to the supermarket/exercising/work.

I have no problem being under a marshall-like law and proving my innocence when asked if it helps curb the sread of the virus and keep the R number down.

I fear you maybe right, no-one wants to live in some sort of Orwellian 1984 police state but these numbers that are just going through the roof , well something drastic has to be done.

 

[Skybluefaz]

TaKe BaCk CoNtRoL...

It's a mockery isn't it? Lots of things being exposed for the sham they always were.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I get confused by what are essential shops I went past Carpetright and it was open. Places like garden centres should be shut.

An important thing surely is to stop people entering or returning for a while so it’s time to stop all flights especially the ones from Dubai where all those z listers have headed off for work and the same with Adams the boxer in the Maldives it’s time to pull up the drawbridge.

 

[chiefdave]

If you are going to lockdown again you've got to make sure it is enforced otherwise too many people will continue to flout rules with no punishment.

I get confused by what are essential shops I went past Carpetright and it was open. Places like garden centres should be shut.

Its all well and good saying more restrictions are on the way but don't we need to have a think about where the infections are happening. Is it people who are sticking to the current restrictions or people who are ignoring them or pushing them to the absolute limit?

There was a paramedic on the news over Christmas pleading with people to stick to the rules, saying they were going to call after call where it was clear the rules were being ignored. How much improvement would we see if everyone who could work from home did, the only shops open were genuinely essential and the return to schools & unis was delayed?

 

[shmmeee]

Interesting thread about the one shot vaccine risk

I fear you maybe right, no-one wants to live in some sort of Orwellian 1984 police state but these numbers that are just going through the roof , well something drastic has to be done.

Actually only politics nerds seem to care about Orwellian states, most of the public thinks they’re great to stop all the wrong uns.

Personally I think they’re wrong uns, but there you go.

 

[Johnnythespider]

Ever since the leadership election, I've been thinking he's the kind of Tory I could handle being in charge.

How low have we sunk!

SHFWF

 

[Johnnythespider]

It will be a full lockdown won't it ? With Hancock's comment that tiers wont cut it with the new variant

 

[Brylowes]

Regardless of political persuasion, does anyone on here still have any faith in the Government to see us through this crisis ?

After the initial jubilation on the announcement that highly effective and safe vaccines had been found and that they were already manufacturing multiple millions of doses, does anyone still believe we will be getting back to anything like normal any time this year ?

What are people’s real thoughts on when we will actually start to make some real headway against the virus and ultimately return to normality ie: hospitality open, large gatherings, easy international travel etc ?

 

[fernandopartridge]

We're at a point where Jeremy Hunt sounds like the most sensible Tory

Crocodile tears from that c**t, he bears a lot of responsibility for his tendure as SoS for Health

 

[wingy]

Regardless of political persuasion, does anyone on here still have any faith in the Government to see us through this crisis ?

After the initial jubilation on the announcement that highly effective and safe vaccines had been found and that they were already manufacturing multiple millions of doses, does anyone still believe we will be getting back to anything like normal any time this year ?

What are people’s real thoughts on when we will actually start to make some real headway against the virus and ultimately return to normality ie: hospitality open, large gatherings, easy international travel etc ?

This time next year Rodney.
Seriously if we're talking globally beyond next year.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Regardless of political persuasion, does anyone on here still have any faith in the Government to see us through this crisis ?

After the initial jubilation on the announcement that highly effective and safe vaccines had been found and that they were already manufacturing multiple millions of doses, does anyone still believe we will be getting back to anything like normal any time this year ?

What are people’s real thoughts on when we will actually start to make some real headway against the virus and ultimately return to normality ie: hospitality open, large gatherings, easy international travel etc ?

That Powis guy reckons the summer for that

 

[RedSalmon]

Crocodile tears from that c**t, he bears a lot of responsibility for his tendure as SoS for Health

Of all the people who have fucked the NHS up over the last twenty years that c**t is in a category all of his own.

 

[David O'Day]

Regardless of political persuasion, does anyone on here still have any faith in the Government to see us through this crisis ?

After the initial jubilation on the announcement that highly effective and safe vaccines had been found and that they were already manufacturing multiple millions of doses, does anyone still believe we will be getting back to anything like normal any time this year ?

What are people’s real thoughts on when we will actually start to make some real headway against the virus and ultimately return to normality ie: hospitality open, large gatherings, easy international travel etc ?

If we can keep to the vaccination schedule we should still be on for Easter but with this government that is a big if.