We agreed to pay for the doses we'd ordered months before they even knew it worked let alone got approval to ensure they would be able to get mass production up and running so we're definitely at the front of the queue.
Given the population size per capita we've done a lot worse4470 deaths in the last 24hrs in USA yesterday . Wow
If you trust the figures on John Hopkins we are 1245 they are 1170 or so deaths per 100000 so just over 1 in 1000 deaths or 0.1% of the populationGiven the population size per capita we've done a lot worse
Our numbers today are equivalent to 6k+ in the USA and we're not even at the peak of itIf you trust the figures on John Hopkins we are 1245 they are 1170 or so deaths per 100000 so just over 1 in 1000 deaths or 0.1% of the population
AgreedOur numbers today are equivalent to 6k+ in the USA and we're not even at the peak of it
This stands out to me:
'He also said Ireland, as well as Britain, have paid the price for being among the few places in the world without tight controls on airports and ports. Both have announced tougher restrictions in recent days, with air passengers being required to show a negative test taken up to 72 hours before departure.
Scally said, too, that Ireland hasn’t taken advantage of its island status the way places such as New Zealand and Taiwan have.'
Ireland have had a quarantine order on people coming from the UK, seems obvious that people have gone home for Christmas, particularly from London and spread it aroundThis stands out to me:
'He also said Ireland, as well as Britain, have paid the price for being among the few places in the world without tight controls on airports and ports. Both have announced tougher restrictions in recent days, with air passengers being required to show a negative test taken up to 72 hours before departure.
Scally said, too, that Ireland hasn’t taken advantage of its island status the way places such as New Zealand and Taiwan have.'
I can’t be bothered to discuss island status but a comparison to Taiwan is ridiculous
Really how about Australia and NZ?
they are massively different to us
Fail to see how and besides the quote came from an article you’re trying to use to criticise the Irish approach
Just the kind of twaddle I would expect frome someone who says he doesn't understand what the term covid cases means.Population density
Requirements for airports to stay operational - we are a hub for cross global travel - I doubt we’d legally have even been allowed to take such actions and divert fkoghts
Far greater necessity for shipments through ports
I bet the Isle of Man is ok as well - it’s an island as is the Scilly Isles
Is this very unusual then? Does overcoming a virus naturally, if that's the right word, usually provide the best length of immunity to a virus?What confuses me a great deal is how catching and overcoming the actual virus confers seemingly less immunity than vaccines using attenuated mutant viruses or RNA vectors.
I guess we don't know how long immunity because of the vaccines will last, yet?What confuses me a great deal is how catching and overcoming the actual virus confers seemingly less immunity than vaccines using attenuated mutant viruses or RNA vectors.
Is this very unusual then? Does overcoming a virus naturally, if that's the right word, usually provide the best length of immunity to a virus?
I guess we don't know how long immunity because of the vaccines will last, yet?
The report says at least five months, and that's the current length of the study. It might go up a lot for most peopleNo, but the latest estimates seem to be about 5 months after recovering from COVID. Doesn’t seem long at all but tells me those booster jabs for the vaccines are essential
The report says at least five months, and that's the current length of the study. It might go up a lot for most people
I read something this morning that said recovering from the virus would give better protection to re-infection than the vaccine.What confuses me a great deal is how catching and overcoming the actual virus confers seemingly less immunity than vaccines using attenuated mutant viruses or RNA vectors.
Taiwan population density is over twice that of the U.K.. What requirement of airports? Who says anyone using it as a hub has to leave the airport complex? I’ve been to Dubai 4 times and am yet to leave the airport complex.Population density
Requirements for airports to stay operational - we are a hub for cross global travel - I doubt we’d legally have even been allowed to take such actions and divert fkoghts
Far greater necessity for shipments through ports
I bet the Isle of Man is ok as well - it’s an island as is the Scilly Isles
Thoroughly nice airport so I can understand.Taiwan population density is over twice that of the U.K.. What requirement of airports? Who says anyone using it as a hub has to leave the airport complex? I’ve been to Dubai 4 times and am yet to leave the airport complex.
That’s goodI read something this morning that said recovering from the virus would give better protection to re-infection than the vaccine.
The study I read about watched something like 6500 people with only 44 catching it again. I think it said they were medical staff, so likely to become re-infected if it was possible.
*EDIT* It was on the DM but is a PHE study.
Previous coronavirus infection reduces reinfection risk by 83%
Data from Public Health England (PHE) comes from more than 20,000 healthcare workers at more than 100 sites across Britain to see how likely reinfection was.www.dailymail.co.uk
I read something this morning that said recovering from the virus would give better protection to re-infection than the vaccine.
The study I read about watched something like 6500 people with only 44 catching it again. I think it said they were medical staff, so likely to become re-infected if it was possible.
*EDIT* It was on the DM but is a PHE study.
Previous coronavirus infection reduces reinfection risk by 83%
Data from Public Health England (PHE) comes from more than 20,000 healthcare workers at more than 100 sites across Britain to see how likely reinfection was.www.dailymail.co.uk
Was curious so did a quick google for data on population density and how it relates to covid rates. Found this which would suggest the link isn't as great as you would think.
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Coronavirus (COVID-19) Deaths
This page provides data on the number of confirmed deaths from COVID-19.ourworldindata.org
That's positive - was everybody subject to the same control though, i.e. exposed to a similar level risk of reinfection?
That's positive - was everybody subject to the same control though, i.e. exposed to a similar level risk of reinfection?
The problem with population density on a country wide level is that it ignores the spread of people within that country, e.g. Canada is low population density but in any case, most of its population actually live in big city urban areas.
Good news that 20m doses of the vaccine are in UK, a lot still needs to be batch tested and put in vials but good to know that the key component is available !
Keep your chins up all...the numbers won’t be pretty in the coming days but there is light at the end of the tunnel
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