Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (8 Viewers)

[LastGarrison]

Issue is stock but places are being told to throw away excess vaccine at the end of the day rather than use it.

I heard differently (one of those friend of a friend ones admittedly) and that at least one of the trusts locally who had excess vaccines at the end of the day literally pulled staff off a ward and gave it to them.

I just can’t imagine staff within the NHS would let these go to waste? Or maybe I would hope they wouldn’t....

 

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[shmmeee]

I heard differently (one of those friend of a friend ones admittedly) and that at least one of the trusts locally who had excess vaccines at the end of the day literally pulled staff off a ward and gave it to them.

I just can’t imagine staff within the NHS would let these go to waste? Or maybe I would hope they wouldn’t....

Going from this:



So just hearsay at the moment. Hope it stays that way.

Searching for that found stories from the States where they couldn’t find enough hospital employees and were barred from giving it to the public rather than let it go bad. Madness.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Going from this:



So just hearsay at the moment. Hope it stays that way.

Searching for that found stories from the States where they couldn’t find enough hospital employees and were barred from giving it to the public rather than let it go bad. Madness.

Florida's approach is first come first served, they just give x vaccines to the hospitals and say whoever wants it goes and gets it. Farcical but the consequence of their dumpster fire health care system

 

[Liquid Gold]

If they're chucking them away I'm going to get into the hospital bins

 

[SBAndy]

As long as it takes, until their vaccine is fully working.

It's all well and good police stopping people going for walks in the woods. They should be stopping people over a certain age that have left the house.

Respectfully, Nick, you’ve been one of the main protagonists arguing about mental health throughout the pandemic, and yet you’re willing to see old people and people with underlying conditions effectively boarded up until the end of this with no alternative. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with the sentiment of what you’re saying and I don’t know whether you’re actually being serious but it’s absolutely unenforceable.

 

[Nick]

Respectfully, Nick, you’ve been one of the main protagonists arguing about mental health throughout the pandemic, and yet you’re willing to see old people and people with underlying conditions effectively boarded up until the end of this with no alternative. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with the sentiment of what you’re saying and I don’t know whether you’re actually being serious but it’s absolutely unenforceable.

Because when you see vulnerable people not giving a shit while everybody else is struggling so that people like them don't get it. It takes the piss.

Oh for sure it's not every OAP, of course not but there's so many not giving a shit.

 

[Grendel]

Because when you see vulnerable people not giving a shit while everybody else is struggling so that people like them don't get it. It takes the piss.

Oh for sure it's not every OAP, of course not but there's so many not giving a shit.

There are 12 million uk residents over 65 - 11,935,000 haven’t died of coronavirus

 

[Astute]

There are 12 million uk residents over 65 - 11,935,000 haven’t died of coronavirus

So there was 12m UK residents over 65 until the Tory incompetency helped lower the number.

 

[shmmeee]

There 46 million uk residents - 45,632,000 didn’t die in WW2

What’s all the fuss about?

Think of all the Americans who didn’t die in 9/11, look at all those well fed Yemenis.

You really are scraping the barrel.

 

[Grendel]

What’s all the fuss about?

Think of all the Americans who didn’t die in 9/11, look at all those well fed Yemenis.

You really are scraping the barrel.

They weren’t locked away against their will

 

[Brylowes]

This is good on our part but we need everyone to vaccinate to open the world back up

I would imagine that in some part ‘at least’ this is due to an increased fear of infection ‘either for oneself or ones family, and/ or a desire to return to the social lives we have been missing for such long periods of time.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

There's an old person I know who thinks all the youngsters should be locked up as they're the ones transmitting it. Then he can get on with his life instead of being shut up thanks to all those under 50s not giving a shit...

 

[Grendel]

There's an old person I know who thinks all the youngsters should be locked up as they're the ones transmitting it. Then he can get on with his life instead of being shut up thanks to all those under 50s not giving a shit...

indeed

 

[chiefdave]

Issue is stock but places are being told to throw away excess vaccine at the end of the day rather than use it.

Thought one of the advantages of the Cambridge vaccine was it could be easily stored. Why would they just chuck it away?

And even if it can't be stored surely pretty easy to have a reserve list of people who will turn up at short notice. The vaccination centre for my doctors is about 5 minutes away, if they called me at 3am and said I could have one I'd be there at 3:05am!

 

[fernandopartridge]

There's an old person I know who thinks all the youngsters should be locked up as they're the ones transmitting it. Then he can get on with his life instead of being shut up thanks to all those under 50s not giving a shit...

Yes, the under 50s out there paying for his state pension etc

 

[David O'Day]

Thought one of the advantages of the Cambridge vaccine was it could be easily stored. Why would they just chuck it away?

And even if it can't be stored surely pretty easy to have a reserve list of people who will turn up at short notice. The vaccination centre for my doctors is about 5 minutes away, if they called me at 3am and said I could have one I'd be there at 3:05am!

Could be the pfizer one?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Some more positive reading

 

[shmmeee]

They weren’t locked away against their will

And neither are you. Unless you’ve lost your front door keys.

 

[shmmeee]

One thing about vaccine scepticism is that we haven’t seen it’s effects. And scepticism is highest among the young. So you’d hope by the time it gets round to the under 40s it’s been out a while and Bill Gates hasn’t taken over the world or whatever.

 

[clint van damme]

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Some more positive reading

'The government is going to under promise and over deliver'

Let's hope that's true

 

[David O'Day]

Some more positive reading

It looks positive but I would strongly urge people to wait a couple of weeks to make sure it is still heading in the right direction. so many things can go wrong still/

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Could be the pfizer one?

Even the Pfizer one can be held for several days under refrigeration.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Respectfully, Nick, you’ve been one of the main protagonists arguing about mental health throughout the pandemic, and yet you’re willing to see old people and people with underlying conditions effectively boarded up until the end of this with no alternative. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with the sentiment of what you’re saying and I don’t know whether you’re actually being serious but it’s absolutely unenforceable.

Think he just needed to vent today going off his other posts. Deep down I think everyone here knows it's not viable.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

There's an old person I know who thinks all the youngsters should be locked up as they're the ones transmitting it. Then he can get on with his life instead of being shut up thanks to all those under 50s not giving a shit...

He should be told that students have indeed been locked up for months and made to pay for their home imprisonment while also paying full whack for a damaged education, through zero fault of their own. Nicola Sturgeon, champion of the elderly

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Good job Van Tam explained that we make different flavours of antibodies

More than 4,800 boxes of ice cream are found to be contaminated with Covid in China | Daily Mail Online

 

[Deleted member 5849]

And neither are you. Unless you’ve lost your front door keys.

That's kind of his point.

 

[shmmeee]

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That's kind of his point.

Oh fucking hell I totally misread that thread.

Sorry @Grendel long week. Thought you were making the “it’s only a couple of people” argument.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Because when you see vulnerable people not giving a shit while everybody else is struggling so that people like them don't get it. It takes the piss.

Oh for sure it's not every OAP, of course not but there's so many not giving a shit.

You're argument is coming across as pretty selfish though.

"i can't go out to the gym/pub which isn't fair. So stop all the old and vulnerable people going out so I can. It's not fair on them either, but I'm not one of them so fuck 'em. Me first"

 

[Evo1883]

Mate still in hospital, said he's gone backwards over the last 24 hours, hard to gauge how he actually is because he's so vague with his messages

 

[Macca]

Today’s observation, some places are shut, there is no lockdown

 

[Nick]

You're argument is coming across as pretty selfish though.

"i can't go out to the gym/pub which isn't fair. So stop all the old and vulnerable people going out so I can. It's not fair on them either, but I'm not one of them so fuck 'em. Me first"

What are the chances of covid hospitalising me compared to the 75 year old woman walking round Tesco with their mask below their nose?

Yeah it is selfish.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Infections down to just over 40000
1295 deaths

 

[shmmeee]

Found out my ex had gone into hospital this morning when my five year old text me to ask for more time on Roblox “cos mummy’s gone to hospital”, you can imagine my reaction

She sounded OK when I text but was waiting for a chest X-ray. She’s 38 if that matters.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Found out my ex had gone into hospital this morning when my five year old text me to ask for more time on Roblox “cos mummy’s gone to hospital”, you can imagine my reaction

She sounded OK when I text but was waiting for a chest X-ray. She’s 38 if that matters.

Any problems with breathing get to hospital do a blood oxygen reading and if low start the magic drugs. Thousands are being saved by getting the magic drugs in them quickly to stop getting worse and then it being a much harder medical job to treat. She’s done the right thing

 

[Saddlebrains]

Not siding fully with Nick but i get his point.

Just got back from the chippy, got chatting to an old bloke, hes 76. Was asking about his thoughts, has he had the vaccine etc. His response?


'Im past caring, i still go and see my daughter and her family, i still go to my mates, i still smoke and im not having the vaccine because i dont know whats in it. I should do though as I've got COPD'.


Granted only 1 bloke but was eye opening. Was glad my cod was ready as i was unsure how to even respond to that